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Keith G March 10th 06 04:51 PM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 23:35:33 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
We didn't have local radio stations in the '50s.

;-)

And not one in a hundred cars had a radio - I remember stickers in
secondhand cars proudly proclaiming *Heater* back in the 50s.....

Remember my father getting an HMV Radiomobile for his new Morris Oxford
in
'56. And that was valve. ;-)



Sidevalve?


Back in the '50s my Dad had a Ford Popular, the old 'sit up and beg'
style, which definitely had a sidevalve engine. No radio, but it did
have a heater!



So did mine. I wanted him to get a V8 Pilot......





Keith G March 10th 06 04:52 PM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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And not one in a hundred cars had a radio - I remember stickers in
secondhand cars proudly proclaiming *Heater* back in the 50s.....



Gosh. I remember those stickers in windscreens of second hand cars.
That takes me back:-))


Mater had an Austin A35 with push up windows.
She later traded it for an A70 with "wind up windows" duly
proclaimed by the sticker you have mentioned.

That's progress:-)




Progress is only History going backwards.... ;-)









Dave Plowman (News) March 10th 06 05:08 PM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:49:59 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
But that was really just cosmetic. Labelling didn't get serious until
we started seeing cars with a "Disc Brakes" sticker to let you know
that it could actually stop.


Small red triangle on the back bumper?


That was the badge on the first UK car with disc brakes - the Triumph TR3A
- and on Jaguars so equipped a year or so later.

No - an actual oval sticker with the words on.


Can't remember that one.

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Stewart Pinkerton March 10th 06 07:18 PM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:54:28 +0000, Glenn Richards
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

But that was really just cosmetic. Labelling didn't get serious until
we started seeing cars with a "Disc Brakes" sticker to let you know
that it could actually stop.
Small red triangle on the back bumper?

No - an actual oval sticker with the words on.


This I take it pre-dated the bumper stickers that read "if you can read
this YOU'RE TOO DAMNED CLOSE!"


I like the little pastel swing tags that hang in the back window. You
have to drive right up to someone's back bumper before you can read
that there's a baby on board..........
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton March 10th 06 07:18 PM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:56:59 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Glenn Richards wrote:
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Oh c'mon, you're a one-man band installing boxes and cables to
standard setups, using the supplied manuals.


In your own words, BULL****.

I do build-to-order servers with RAID, database-driven dynamic web
sites, a lot of seriously ****ed up SQL code, custom software systems,
custom hardware, as well as PCs built to order.


What, you are proud about writing "seriously ****ed up SQL code",
whatever "SQL code" is.


I'm rather puzzled about 'custom software systems'....

Otherwise, like I said, he's a one-man band installing boxes and
cables to standard setups, using the supplied manuals. We use multiple
dual-core IBM servers running Unix and with hot-swappable RAID arrays,
and any of us 'techies' is perfectly capable of stripping, rebuilding
and reconfiguring any or all of them, not to mention sorting out the
routers, reconfiguring the LAN setup and rehooking to other parts of
the WAN as required. It ain't rocket science!

Indeed, one of us is currently tasked with rewriting our intranet
website, the task could have gone to any of us, it's all just standard
Java scripting. Luckily for 'Squirrel Solutions' there are loads of
technophobes out there in business land, who have trouble finding the
reset button on their PCs..............

"My printer isn't working"

"Is it installed under Windows?"

"No, it's over by the door"

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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Jo March 11th 06 12:38 AM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
In ,
Dave Plowman (News) typed:
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
But that was really just cosmetic. Labelling didn't get serious until
we started seeing cars with a "Disc Brakes" sticker to let you know
that it could actually stop.


Small red triangle on the back bumper?


Everybody seen the BMW ads for their "Brake Force Display" lights ? They are
LED based and light up more brightly when you brake hard. "...the only type
of light that improves the reactions of the driver behind.", they say.

Jo



Glenn Richards March 11th 06 08:31 AM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I like the little pastel swing tags that hang in the back window. You
have to drive right up to someone's back bumper before you can read
that there's a baby on board..........


Well... my friend has one in her car (K-reg Peugeot 106) that says "babe
on board"...

But then she's also got hot pink seat covers and steering wheel cover.

--
Glenn Richards Tel: (01453) 845735
Squirrel Solutions http://www.squirrelsolutions.co.uk/

IT consultancy, hardware and software support, broadband installation

Glenn Richards March 11th 06 08:39 AM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Except the track that I posted the visualisations of was recorded
in 1981, before such nonsense existed.

Not really. Think of Spector's 'Wall of Sound'. You could use most of
his stuff as line up tone. ;-)


Perhaps, but the difference there is that it was meant to sound like
that. Whereas the track I mentioned in the original post WASN'T meant to
sound compressed to within an inch of its life...

Looks like the rot started in the early 90s (the first remaster was
1994), and by last year any sense of dynamics were lost in
brick-wall limiting...

Yes. But it seems to be what the 'public' wants. Look at the number
of those who complain about ads in TV sounding louder than the progs.


Because they're compressed to buggery...

The only practical way round that is to process the whole lot to
within an inch of its life. And make it sound like Talk Radio.


Actually a more practical way would be to apply ReplayGain to
*everything* that gets broadcast, radio or TV. That way anyone trying to
"cheat" by hard compression would shoot themselves in the foot, because
their output would end up sounding quieter than stuff which wasn't
brick-wall limited.

And have the perceived loudness of the adverts 3-4dB lower than the
programme material...

I believe most radio stations now use some kind of digital jukebox
system to store music, in some kind of compressed digital format (that's
psychoacoustic compression as opposed to dynamic range compression).
Which means it would be trivial to run a gain adjustment script across
the entire music library, and set the perceived loudness to 89dB.
Uncompressed tracks then sound louder.

It's not just music either. I've noticed increasingly with film
soundtracks that stuff gets compressed to "make it sound louder". Now
here there really is no excuse, all DVD players have DRC built in as
part of the Dolby Digital/AC3 spec. Which I always set to "max", ie no
compression, but if I was in the unfortunate position of having to play
the audio from a DVD movie through the TV's own speakers, I'd probably
set it to Normal or even Minimum (compression turned on).

--
Glenn Richards Tel: (01453) 845735
Squirrel Solutions http://www.squirrelsolutions.co.uk/

IT consultancy, hardware and software support, broadband installation

Glenn Richards March 11th 06 08:49 AM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I'm rather puzzled about 'custom software systems'....


Online packaging and tracking system for mortgage intermediaries
Booking system for a salon
Stock control system for small business (that integrates with ecommerce
enabled web site)

To name but 3. There are others, but some of them are under NDA.

Otherwise, like I said, he's a one-man band installing boxes and
cables to standard setups, using the supplied manuals.


I have a "standard" configuration for workstations, which generally
involves a bit of fiddling with a config file before booting a newly
assembled PC off the network and having it do a complete install of
WinXP with all service packs, hotfixes, and application suite (Office etc).

[attempt at penis size comparison snipped]
Luckily for 'Squirrel Solutions' there are loads of technophobes out
there in business land, who have trouble finding the reset button on
their PCs..............


Indeed there are, and most of them are in management.

Fortunately, that's where people like myself come in - using a *nix
server as the central point of the network, I can remotely manage a
company with a couple of dozen employees - and get paid a reasonable
amount for doing so. And because it's all running remotely I can manage
a couple of dozen companies. *nix is stable enough that it doesn't need
its backside wiping every 5 minutes (unlike Windows server).

The way to make a million is not to get one person to give you
£1,000,000 - it's to get 1,000,000 people to give you £1.

--
Glenn Richards Tel: (01453) 845735
Squirrel Solutions http://www.squirrelsolutions.co.uk/

IT consultancy, hardware and software support, broadband installation

Stewart Pinkerton March 11th 06 11:07 AM

"Remastered" CDs - the truth
 
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:31:15 +0000, Glenn Richards
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I like the little pastel swing tags that hang in the back window. You
have to drive right up to someone's back bumper before you can read
that there's a baby on board..........


Well... my friend has one in her car (K-reg Peugeot 106) that says "babe
on board"...

But then she's also got hot pink seat covers and steering wheel cover.


And a fake Burberry baseball cap? :-)

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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


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