Naxos is reportedly moving away from SACD and concentrating on plain
old vanilla CDs. Is this typical of the industry? How are the masters
normally recorded these days in the classical music world - 96/24 or
what? I cite the classical market as being 'quality sound' so it would
be interesting to know where all this is going in the short term (and
indeed the medium/long term).
We have some industry insiders on the ng - any news to tell?

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Naxos is reportedly moving away from SACD and
concentrating on plain old vanilla CDs.

Sounds like a good idea.

Is this typical of the industry?

Word has it that DVD-A is dying and only Sony's deep pockets are keeping
SACD afloat. Remember beta?

How are the masters normally recorded
these days in the classical music world - 96/24 or what?

Probably. But, so what?

I cite the classical market as being 'quality sound' so
it would be interesting to know where all this is going
in the short term (and indeed the medium/long term).

Trouble is that SACD and so-called Hi-Rez DVD-A were long and hype and short
on sonic benefits.

We have some industry insiders on the ng - any news to tell?

Check the RIAA site for more details about the collapse of DVD-A sales.

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Naxos is reportedly moving away from SACD and
concentrating on plain old vanilla CDs.

Sounds like a good idea.

Is this typical of the industry?

Word has it that DVD-A is dying and only Sony's deep pockets are keeping
SACD afloat. Remember beta?

I remember at the time that many people in broadcast and duplicating
thought that Beta was superior. In fact there were some companies
using Beta for local ENG.


How are the masters normally recorded
these days in the classical music world - 96/24 or what?

Probably. But, so what?

Yes. 96/24, probably without exception. To allow what
Tony Griffiths describes as "professional headroom" :-))

I cite the classical market as being 'quality sound' so
it would be interesting to know where all this is going
in the short term (and indeed the medium/long term).

I am glad that you regard the classical market as quality,
Andy. When I go to a classical mastering session, I can
reckon to be in and out in a couple of hours. For a pop
session one needs to take a sleeping bag:-)

Iain

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"Andy Evans" wrote in
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Naxos is reportedly moving away from SACD and
concentrating on plain old vanilla CDs.

Sounds like a good idea.

Is this typical of the industry?

Word has it that DVD-A is dying and only Sony's deep
pockets are keeping SACD afloat. Remember beta?

I remember at the time that many people in broadcast and
duplicating thought that Beta was superior. In fact
there were some companies using Beta for local ENG.

The Betacams that were used for ENG used a different format. But thanks
Iain for showing once again what little you actually know about the
technolgies that you pretend to have expertise in.

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I remember at the time that many people in broadcast and duplicating
thought that Beta was superior. In fact there were some companies
using Beta for local ENG.

Pro Beta and later Beta SP were component recorders rather than the
domestic composite Betamax. The tapes of course *looked* roughly the same
- as did VHS and MII which was the Panasonic 'version' for broadcast, etc.

Component recording used a multiple head drum to record a luminance and
two colour difference signals. S-VHS was a simpler version of the same
theme and there were also domestic BetaMax recorders that used roughly the
same principle. But pretty rare.

DigiBeta is still the industry standard for high quality video recordings.

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Naxos is reportedly moving away from SACD and
concentrating on plain old vanilla CDs.

Sounds like a good idea.

Is this typical of the industry?

Word has it that DVD-A is dying and only Sony's deep
pockets are keeping SACD afloat. Remember beta?

I remember at the time that many people in broadcast and
duplicating thought that Beta was superior. In fact
there were some companies using Beta for local ENG.

The Betacams that were used for ENG used a different format. But thanks
Iain for showing once again what little you actually know about the
technolgies that you pretend to have expertise in.

Arny. DearArny. Read what I said.
I said Beta, not Betacam. You have chosen to confuse the two.
Beta is a four letter word. I remember you used to be quite proficient
with those:-)

I am talking about the original Beta not BetaCam or digital BetaCam.
Here in Europe where we have a sensible PAL system, Beta was used by
local TV staions for ENG.

BetaCam and DigiBetaCam are current prof broadcast formats.


Iain

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I remember at the time that many people in broadcast and duplicating
thought that Beta was superior. In fact there were some companies
using Beta for local ENG.

Pro Beta and later Beta SP were component recorders rather than the
domestic composite Betamax. The tapes of course *looked* roughly the same
- as did VHS and MII which was the Panasonic 'version' for broadcast, etc.

Component recording used a multiple head drum to record a luminance and
two colour difference signals. S-VHS was a simpler version of the same
theme and there were also domestic BetaMax recorders that used roughly the
same principle. But pretty rare.

DigiBeta is still the industry standard for high quality video recordings.

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Thanks Dave., You put it most eloquently. Arny is confusing Beta with
BetaCam. I was simply stating that when VHS and the original Beta were
still both domestic formats, there were some local TV companies, for example
HTV in Sweden who used domestic Beta as a local ENG format where
quality was not paramount.
Iain

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DigiBeta is still the industry standard for high quality video recordings.

But D1 is used for film transfers and graphics post production.
Iain

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Naxos is reportedly moving away from SACD and
concentrating on plain old vanilla CDs.

Sounds like a good idea.

Is this typical of the industry?

Word has it that DVD-A is dying and only Sony's deep pockets are keeping
SACD afloat. Remember beta?

I remember at the time that many people in broadcast and duplicating
thought that Beta was superior. In fact there were some companies
using Beta for local ENG.

How are the masters normally recorded
these days in the classical music world - 96/24 or what?

Probably. But, so what?

Yes. 96/24, probably without exception. To allow what
Tony Griffiths describes as "professional headroom" :-))

I cite the classical market as being 'quality sound' so
it would be interesting to know where all this is going
in the short term (and indeed the medium/long term).

I am glad that you regard the classical market as quality,
Andy. When I go to a classical mastering session, I can
reckon to be in and out in a couple of hours. For a pop
session one needs to take a sleeping bag:-)

Perhaps because you simply have to *record* a classical orchestra?
With pop, you have to transform what they do into something vaguely
reminiscent of music - noise gates, compresors, limiters, pitch
shifters, multiple track/take splicing etc etc etc. :-(
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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:09:44 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

I am glad that you regard the classical market as quality,
Andy. When I go to a classical mastering session, I can
reckon to be in and out in a couple of hours. For a pop
session one needs to take a sleeping bag:-)


Perhaps because you simply have to *record* a classical orchestra?
With pop, you have to transform what they do into something vaguely
reminiscent of music - noise gates, compresors, limiters, pitch
shifters, multiple track/take splicing etc etc etc. :-(

But Iain has written many times recently that he doesn't just record
the sound of a classical performance. He's an artist and chooses his
microphones carefully to give the most musical frequency response and
distortion. The result is even better than the real thing.

Someone who just wanted to accurately record an orchestra wouldn't have written:
...and just a touch of reverb to bring it to perfection.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.