On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:16:37 +0200, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:04:02 +0100, Jamezgb wrote:

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:51:13 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

I am curious as to why you wish to do this.

I used to regard this as an 'issue' (as we now have to say) when 'data'
discs cost noticably less than 'audio' ones. However my experience in
recent years is that they cost much the same, and are quite cheap. Also,
that in some cases 'audio' CDRs play more reliably in ordinary CD audio
players.



Only reason is that I'd just used the last of my Audio CDR's and have
got about 100 blank CD-Roms kicking around, so it would have been
convenient to use those (plus they have inkjet printable surfaces). I
managed to get 20 for £6 from Morrissons in the end, so it's all
academic now.

Jamezgb

Audio CDR???
What's that? I have never bothered even looking for one and have
never had any problems whatsoever with the CDRs I have music on.
Why should I? The laser doesn't know the 1s and 0s represent
music.

/Martin


Audio CDR's have a code on them that is necessary for use in a
standalone "HiFi" CD Recorder.These are more expensive not for quality
issues but as a Tax/Levy to cover any losses that people in the
recording industry may incur due to people copying original CD's.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:31:54 +0100, Jamezgb
wrote:

Audio CDR's have a code on them that is necessary for use in a
standalone "HiFi" CD Recorder.These are more expensive not for quality
issues but as a Tax/Levy to cover any losses that people in the
recording industry may incur due to people copying original CD's.

It is neither a tax nor a levy. It is a fine imposed as a penalty for
a crime which at the time remains not only unproven, but uncommitted.
That is why nobody should ever be conned into buying audio CDRs.

d

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In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:31:54 +0100, Jamezgb wrote:

Audio CDR's have a code on them that is necessary for use in a
standalone "HiFi" CD Recorder.These are more expensive not for quality
issues but as a Tax/Levy to cover any losses that people in the
recording industry may incur due to people copying original CD's.

It is neither a tax nor a levy. It is a fine imposed as a penalty for a
crime which at the time remains not only unproven, but uncommitted. That
is why nobody should ever be conned into buying audio CDRs.

Alas, 'conned' or not, if you choose as I do to use an audio CDRW recorder
you may find that you have to use 'audio' blanks if the recorder won't
record onto 'data' ones. However regardless of if this is a tax/levy/con,
in practice I find that:

1) I have for some years now been able to buy 'audio' discs at the same
price as 'data' ones. Thus the tax/levy/con seems to be costed now at 0p
per disc...

2) That the 'audio' ones I use play in more of the audio players I use than
the 'data' ones. Although the same 'brand' (TDK) the audio discs obviously
use a different dye, etc, as they are a different colour. My impression is
that they are optimised for x1 speed recording whereas data discs seem to
be built for higher write speeds. However, whatever the reasons, I find
they work better in practice for my use.

Also:

3) That when preferred it is easy enough to keep a few 'audio' CDRWs and
use them for the initial recording, but then transfer/edit to data discs
later.

Thus to me this seems to be an 'issue' that died some years ago... just so
long as both kinds of discs remain available, anyway! :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:41:13 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:31:54 +0100, Jamezgb
wrote:

Audio CDR's have a code on them that is necessary for use in a
standalone "HiFi" CD Recorder.These are more expensive not for quality
issues but as a Tax/Levy to cover any losses that people in the
recording industry may incur due to people copying original CD's.

It is neither a tax nor a levy. It is a fine imposed as a penalty for
a crime which at the time remains not only unproven, but uncommitted.
That is why nobody should ever be conned into buying audio CDRs.

d

I didn't say I agreed with it, just explaining what the reasons given
for the extra cost was/is.