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am a little worried to turn my amp back on at the moment.
i listened to an album this morning. it finished. nothing playing but amp (primaluna prologue two integrated) and cdp still on. all of a sudden there was a loudish 'pop' from the right speaker. put it down to the mains. then about 60 seconds later another one. switched off the cdp to see if that was causing it. pop again. turned amp volume down. 30 seconds later pop pop pop. turned amp off worried the speaker was going to get damaged. thought i may have heard one of the valves going 'ting' when the pops were occuring, but not sure. this has never happened before for as long as i have had the amp (2 months). valves were supposed to have been newly fitted to a pretty newish second hand amp. have rarely played it very loud, Living Voice speakers quite sensitive (91db/w/m). does anyone know what this could be? will the speaker drivers get damaged if I turn the amp on again to test the valves? me thinks a valve ????????? |
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:39:44 GMT, " Dave xxxx"
wrote: am a little worried to turn my amp back on at the moment. i listened to an album this morning. it finished. nothing playing but amp (primaluna prologue two integrated) and cdp still on. all of a sudden there was a loudish 'pop' from the right speaker. put it down to the mains. then about 60 seconds later another one. switched off the cdp to see if that was causing it. pop again. turned amp volume down. 30 seconds later pop pop pop. turned amp off worried the speaker was going to get damaged. thought i may have heard one of the valves going 'ting' when the pops were occuring, but not sure. this has never happened before for as long as i have had the amp (2 months). valves were supposed to have been newly fitted to a pretty newish second hand amp. have rarely played it very loud, Living Voice speakers quite sensitive (91db/w/m). does anyone know what this could be? will the speaker drivers get damaged if I turn the amp on again to test the valves? me thinks a valve ????????? It's a cheap Chinese amp, fitted with cheap Chinese valves, so this is what happens. Dump it on ebay and buy a proper SS amp. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Dave xxxx wrote:
am a little worried to turn my amp back on at the moment. i listened to an album this morning. it finished. nothing playing but amp (primaluna prologue two integrated) and cdp still on. all of a sudden there was a loudish 'pop' from the right speaker. put it down to the mains. then about 60 seconds later another one. switched off the cdp to see if that was causing it. pop again. turned amp volume down. 30 seconds later pop pop pop. turned amp off worried the speaker was going to get damaged. thought i may have heard one of the valves going 'ting' when the pops were occuring, but not sure. this has never happened before for as long as i have had the amp (2 months). valves were supposed to have been newly fitted to a pretty newish second hand amp. have rarely played it very loud, Living Voice speakers quite sensitive (91db/w/m). does anyone know what this could be? will the speaker drivers get damaged if I turn the amp on again to test the valves? me thinks a valve ????????? Its unlikly it will produce enough output to hurt the speaker, but why not be on the safe side, get a cheap pair from a second hand shop, that way you don't have to worry. -- Nick |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:43:39 +0100, Nick Gorham
wrote: Dave xxxx wrote: am a little worried to turn my amp back on at the moment. i listened to an album this morning. it finished. nothing playing but amp (primaluna prologue two integrated) and cdp still on. all of a sudden there was a loudish 'pop' from the right speaker. put it down to the mains. then about 60 seconds later another one. switched off the cdp to see if that was causing it. pop again. turned amp volume down. 30 seconds later pop pop pop. turned amp off worried the speaker was going to get damaged. thought i may have heard one of the valves going 'ting' when the pops were occuring, but not sure. this has never happened before for as long as i have had the amp (2 months). valves were supposed to have been newly fitted to a pretty newish second hand amp. have rarely played it very loud, Living Voice speakers quite sensitive (91db/w/m). does anyone know what this could be? will the speaker drivers get damaged if I turn the amp on again to test the valves? me thinks a valve ????????? Its unlikly it will produce enough output to hurt the speaker, but why not be on the safe side, get a cheap pair from a second hand shop, that way you don't have to worry. That's funny! The proposed solution to a busted amp is a new pair of speakers - - - - You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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Nick Gorham wrote:
Dave xxxx wrote: does anyone know what this could be? will the speaker drivers get damaged if I turn the amp on again to test the valves? me thinks a valve ????????? Its unlikly it will produce enough output to hurt the speaker, but why not be on the safe side, get a cheap pair from a second hand shop, that way you don't have to worry. Swap the valves with those from the other channel. If the fault moves, it's a valve. If not, it's one of those *solid state* components underneath the chassis (or a capacitor). -- Eiron No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:43:39 +0100, Nick Gorham wrote: Its unlikly it will produce enough output to hurt the speaker, but why not be on the safe side, get a cheap pair from a second hand shop, that way you don't have to worry. That's funny! The proposed solution to a busted amp is a new pair of speakers - - - - Hardly. What Nick suggested was a pair of cheap, secondhand speakers..... I suspect his reasoning is/was that until the problem with the amp is fixed it would be best to take a pair of expensive speakers out of the firing line. But as the guy seems to be a bit of a wattock (my noisy Chinese valves get a whack over the head or binned if they won't behave) perhaps he'd better follow Pinky's advice and give up on valves - they are a different ballgame and not for the feinthearted or congenitally dim..... You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. :-) I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Unlike most (immature, IMO) sandampers, I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage (which is otherwise plenty good enough for 'casual'), gutless power delivery (claims to be 35 wpc - my 8 watt SET blows it into the weeds), crosstalk (with radio coming through on the Phono setting almost as loud as the Tuner setting) and concentrate on the incredible (at the price) raft of bonus features - push button input selection, digital tone controls, balance, volume, speaker attenuation (most of which appears to be available on the included remote control!!) as well as the line out, headphone socket and LCD status panel.... http://www.acousticsolutions.net/product.asp?ID=92 Having already proved useful in that it confirms I will almost certainly never give up valves in favour of sandamps, it is destined for my computer setup where it will probably play internet radio/mp3s all day long (as a 'security measure' while I'm down the garage, if nothing else) - plenty good enough for that and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to put a budget system together but doesn't want a ****e old clunker from eBay for the same sort of money at the heart of it!! |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:01:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:43:39 +0100, Nick Gorham wrote: Its unlikly it will produce enough output to hurt the speaker, but why not be on the safe side, get a cheap pair from a second hand shop, that way you don't have to worry. That's funny! The proposed solution to a busted amp is a new pair of speakers - - - - Hardly. What Nick suggested was a pair of cheap, secondhand speakers..... I knew that ;-) I suspect his reasoning is/was that until the problem with the amp is fixed it would be best to take a pair of expensive speakers out of the firing line. But as the guy seems to be a bit of a wattock (my noisy Chinese valves get a whack over the head or binned if they won't behave) perhaps he'd better follow Pinky's advice and give up on valves - they are a different ballgame and not for the feinthearted or congenitally dim..... True, particularly if it is an output valve flashing over. When that happens you find out all of a sudden just how much power you can get off 400V or so of HT. You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. :-) I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Is that really a control labelled "control" I can see there? Unlike most (immature, IMO) sandampers, I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage (which is otherwise plenty good enough for 'casual'), gutless power delivery (claims to be 35 wpc - my 8 watt SET blows it into the weeds), crosstalk (with radio coming through on the Phono setting almost as loud as the Tuner setting) and concentrate on the incredible (at the price) raft of bonus features - push button input selection, digital tone controls, balance, volume, speaker attenuation (most of which appears to be available on the included remote control!!) as well as the line out, headphone socket and LCD status panel.... What on earth is this thing? And who is charging as much as 60 squids for it? http://www.acousticsolutions.net/product.asp?ID=92 Having already proved useful in that it confirms I will almost certainly never give up valves in favour of sandamps, it is destined for my computer setup where it will probably play internet radio/mp3s all day long (as a 'security measure' while I'm down the garage, if nothing else) - plenty good enough for that and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to put a budget system together but doesn't want a ****e old clunker from eBay for the same sort of money at the heart of it!! Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. :-) I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Is that really a control labelled "control" I can see there? Yes. You got a problem with that? (I hadn't even noticed it!) What would you rather it was labelled - 'knob'...??? :-) It does control all the digital functions - volume, treble, bass, balance, loudness, speakers on/off... Unlike most (immature, IMO) sandampers, I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage (which is otherwise plenty good enough for 'casual'), gutless power delivery (claims to be 35 wpc - my 8 watt SET blows it into the weeds), crosstalk (with radio coming through on the Phono setting almost as loud as the Tuner setting) and concentrate on the incredible (at the price) raft of bonus features - push button input selection, digital tone controls, balance, volume, speaker attenuation (most of which appears to be available on the included remote control!!) as well as the line out, headphone socket and LCD status panel.... What on earth is this thing? And who is charging as much as 60 squids for it? Argos, who else? http://www.acousticsolutions.net/product.asp?ID=92 Having already proved useful in that it confirms I will almost certainly never give up valves in favour of sandamps, it is destined for my computer setup where it will probably play internet radio/mp3s all day long (as a 'security measure' while I'm down the garage, if nothing else) - plenty good enough for that and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to put a budget system together but doesn't want a ****e old clunker from eBay for the same sort of money at the heart of it!! Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? No comment...!! ;-) |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:34:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. :-) I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Is that really a control labelled "control" I can see there? Yes. You got a problem with that? (I hadn't even noticed it!) What would you rather it was labelled - 'knob'...??? :-) Of course - what else? It does control all the digital functions - volume, treble, bass, balance, loudness, speakers on/off... I really hate that. My car radio does things that way. Give me one function per knob any day. Unlike most (immature, IMO) sandampers, I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage (which is otherwise plenty good enough for 'casual'), gutless power delivery (claims to be 35 wpc - my 8 watt SET blows it into the weeds), crosstalk (with radio coming through on the Phono setting almost as loud as the Tuner setting) and concentrate on the incredible (at the price) raft of bonus features - push button input selection, digital tone controls, balance, volume, speaker attenuation (most of which appears to be available on the included remote control!!) as well as the line out, headphone socket and LCD status panel.... What on earth is this thing? And who is charging as much as 60 squids for it? Argos, who else? Silly me! http://www.acousticsolutions.net/product.asp?ID=92 Having already proved useful in that it confirms I will almost certainly never give up valves in favour of sandamps, it is destined for my computer setup where it will probably play internet radio/mp3s all day long (as a 'security measure' while I'm down the garage, if nothing else) - plenty good enough for that and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to put a budget system together but doesn't want a ****e old clunker from eBay for the same sort of money at the heart of it!! Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? No comment...!! ;-) Go - treat yourself! You might even like it (no need to tell us, it can be your guilty secret) ;-) d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote It does control all the digital functions - volume, treble, bass, balance, loudness, speakers on/off... I really hate that. My car radio does things that way. Give me one function per knob any day. Agreed. Normally the only *knob* I want to see on an amp is a volume control, I don't even like multiple inputs and input switching inside amplifiers... What on earth is this thing? And who is charging as much as 60 squids for it? Argos, who else? Silly me! Quicker than eBay and a warranty, as well as 15 days no-quibble return if you don't like it... Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? No comment...!! ;-) Go - treat yourself! You might even like it (no need to tell us, it can be your guilty secret) ;-) If I had a Cyrus amp and liked it (I've heard a number of 'em up to the 8 and didn't much like any of 'em) I'd say so - it's not valvies who get all sweaty and bent out of shape about different types of amps. I couldn't give a Fiona Fullerton either way - I use valves because I *prefer* the sound for proper listening and SS when I want the *convenience* (AV or computer for example)... |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:58:15 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote It does control all the digital functions - volume, treble, bass, balance, loudness, speakers on/off... I really hate that. My car radio does things that way. Give me one function per knob any day. Agreed. Normally the only *knob* I want to see on an amp is a volume control, I don't even like multiple inputs and input switching inside amplifiers... You gotta have your input switching somewhere - unless you really want to swap cables every time. What on earth is this thing? And who is charging as much as 60 squids for it? Argos, who else? Silly me! Quicker than eBay and a warranty, as well as 15 days no-quibble return if you don't like it... Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? No comment...!! ;-) Go - treat yourself! You might even like it (no need to tell us, it can be your guilty secret) ;-) If I had a Cyrus amp and liked it (I've heard a number of 'em up to the 8 and didn't much like any of 'em) I'd say so - it's not valvies who get all sweaty and bent out of shape about different types of amps. I couldn't give a Fiona Fullerton either way - I use valves because I *prefer* the sound for proper listening and SS when I want the *convenience* (AV or computer for example)... Dunno so much about that - you only have to look at RAT to see plenty of "sweaty and bent out of shape" about SET etc. Most SS types wouldn't even be able to tell you what configuration their amp is, let alone care. I'm guessing my Cyrus is AB, but that really is just a guess - I had never thought about it. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:58:15 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote It does control all the digital functions - volume, treble, bass, balance, loudness, speakers on/off... I really hate that. My car radio does things that way. Give me one function per knob any day. Agreed. Normally the only *knob* I want to see on an amp is a volume control, I don't even like multiple inputs and input switching inside amplifiers... You gotta have your input switching somewhere - unless you really want to swap cables every time. External 'input expanders' are cheap enough and a lot less trouble if/when things go pooey (my KiT88 is on its 3rd input selector switch and that ain't ever going to get replaced again - too much fiddly soldering!). Anyway, as I'm evolving down to only FM radio and vinyl on my main setup these days, even swapping cables isn't the biggest pain in the world... If I had a Cyrus amp and liked it (I've heard a number of 'em up to the 8 and didn't much like any of 'em) I'd say so - it's not valvies who get all sweaty and bent out of shape about different types of amps. I couldn't give a Fiona Fullerton either way - I use valves because I *prefer* the sound for proper listening and SS when I want the *convenience* (AV or computer for example)... Dunno so much about that - you only have to look at RAT to see plenty of "sweaty and bent out of shape" about SET etc. Wouldn't know, I don't subscribe to RAT - I'm talking about the sandampers here who get all foamy about it..... Most SS types wouldn't even be able to tell you what configuration their amp is, let alone care. I'm guessing my Cyrus is AB, but that really is just a guess - I had never thought about it. I got no problem with that..... ;-) |
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Don Pearce wrote:
Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? I got one for 25 quid... -- Wally www.wally.myby.co.uk |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:52:20 +0100, "Wally" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote: Have you seen what secondhand Cyrus IIs are going for on Ebay? I got one for 25 quid... Exactly. All you need to do is take the lid off and squirt some cleaner in the switches, and you are up and running for years. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Keith G" wrote in message
"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Looks like its worth at least half of what you paid for it, champ! Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-( |
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Don Pearce wrote:
I got one for 25 quid... Exactly. All you need to do is take the lid off and squirt some cleaner in the switches, and you are up and running for years. Haven't done any of that - just plugged it in and left it to get on with it. There were a few for sale at the same time, and I think the prevailing demand was more than satisfied. -- Wally www.wally.myby.co.uk |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Keith G" wrote in message "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Looks like its worth at least half of what you paid for it, champ! Sure.... Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-( So what are you bitching about then? Trust me, mon brave, I've had/heard more SS amps than you've had hot dinners - the amp I got filled all my requirements, see the location: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/computer.JPG I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at usable levels.) I wanted a balance control - I got one. (For offset speaker positioning at close range.) I wanted to put my monitor on it - I have. (Tricky with the valve amp I had before.... ;-) I wanted it *now* (*then*, IYSWIM).... I got more inputs than I would/will ever need. It's gotta headphone socket. It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but I like to have them with SS kit....) It don't run hot. It's *instant* on and off. It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle.... It cost feck-all. It's *sweeet*.... I love it. It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't - you reading this Phil....??) Where have I gone wrong? Answers on a postcard.... Only thing is - what do I do wiv all these *spares*:... http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/spare%20amps.JPG :-) |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:33:06 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-( What's wrong with it? Seems to do the job, and didn't cost much. So what are you bitching about then? Trust me, mon brave, I've had/heard more SS amps than you've had hot dinners - the amp I got filled all my requirements, see the location: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/computer.JPG I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at usable levels.) I wanted a balance control - I got one. (For offset speaker positioning at close range.) I wanted to put my monitor on it - I have. (Tricky with the valve amp I had before.... ;-) I wanted it *now* (*then*, IYSWIM).... I got more inputs than I would/will ever need. It's gotta headphone socket. It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but I like to have them with SS kit....) It don't run hot. It's *instant* on and off. It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle.... It cost feck-all. It's *sweeet*.... I love it. It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't - you reading this Phil....??) Where have I gone wrong? I can't see that you have. Answers on a postcard.... Only thing is - what do I do wiv all these *spares*:... http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/spare%20amps.JPG Plenty of mugs on ebay, mon brave! :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:33:06 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message m... Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-( What's wrong with it? Seems to do the job, and didn't cost much. Tell him Pinkus - the dozy old bugger hasn't twigged this *digital everything*/computer quality amp isn't much more than a soundcard in its own case with a PSU, a few more inputs and probably a single chip amplifier! (Class D??? - Probably not....) http://www.acousticsolutions.net/PRODUCTS/IMS/SP101.pdf snip sales pitch where I forgot to say that it's *silver* which mean I can actually *see* the sodding buttons for a change and has a remote control which will be dead handy for an amp 10 inches from my fingertips!! Where have I gone wrong? I can't see that you have. Hopefully not, but you never can tell this when you this close to the bottom of the pond.... Tell me summat. The (outrageous) little speakers it's feeding are stubborn little barsterds at only 82 dB and the volume display** http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/display.JPG reads -10 dB for *loud* - does this matter, being SS an' all...?? (Fit were valves you'd think you were out of the optimum operating range.... ;-) Plenty of mugs on ebay, mon brave! :-) Ah, oops.... Swims bath oils and my AT-OC5 turned up this morning (fabulous condition, c/w fixings, screwdriver, brush etc), now I'm sweating on a Technics DD deck where I *know* the seller hasn't removed the sodding platter (like I asked) and a*mint* (?) Technics AM/FM tuner..... **Cyrus II owners eat yer hearts out!! :-P |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: Ah, oops.... Swims bath oils and my AT-OC5 turned up this morning (fabulous condition, c/w fixings, screwdriver, brush etc), now I'm sweating on a Technics DD deck where I *know* the seller hasn't removed the sodding platter (like I asked) and a*mint* (?) Technics AM/FM tuner..... **Cyrus II owners eat yer hearts out!! :-P The Cyrus has a lovely MC input that would suit that OC5 perfectly. What's the situation with that new amp? No heart-eating going on here - my Cyrus II performs very nicely and I won't be buying any new amps for a long time to come. :-P d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: Ah, oops.... Swims bath oils and my AT-OC5 turned up this morning (fabulous condition, c/w fixings, screwdriver, brush etc), now I'm sweating on a Technics DD deck where I *know* the seller hasn't removed the sodding platter (like I asked) and a*mint* (?) Technics AM/FM tuner..... **Cyrus II owners eat yer hearts out!! :-P The Cyrus has a lovely MC input that would suit that OC5 perfectly. :-) What's the situation with that new amp? Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the valve phono stages!! If I wanted to use the MC carts I'd have to use the *utterly silent* Orto MCA-76 stepup that the beezer geezer Dave Whitter very kindly gave me (and which is usually partnered with my *superb* Orto MC200 ultra low output MC cart) !! Ho hum.... :-P Now, for all you snobby buggers that turn your noses up at 'universal headshells', check this out: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5.JPG http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ATfixings.JPG This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! - Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!! No heart-eating going on here - my Cyrus II performs very nicely and I won't be buying any new amps for a long time to come. :-P Me neither, I suppose..... (Miserable innit?? :-) Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!! |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:47:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: Ah, oops.... Swims bath oils and my AT-OC5 turned up this morning (fabulous condition, c/w fixings, screwdriver, brush etc), now I'm sweating on a Technics DD deck where I *know* the seller hasn't removed the sodding platter (like I asked) and a*mint* (?) Technics AM/FM tuner..... **Cyrus II owners eat yer hearts out!! :-P The Cyrus has a lovely MC input that would suit that OC5 perfectly. :-) What's the situation with that new amp? Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the valve phono stages!! So you will be using it with another of your collection, then? If I wanted to use the MC carts I'd have to use the *utterly silent* Orto MCA-76 stepup that the beezer geezer Dave Whitter very kindly gave me (and which is usually partnered with my *superb* Orto MC200 ultra low output MC cart) !! Ho hum.... :-P Now, for all you snobby buggers that turn your noses up at 'universal headshells', check this out: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5.JPG http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ATfixings.JPG This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! - Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!! My arm has a fixed head shell - I've owned it for nearly forty years and I suspect it is yet another bit of kit that will see me out quite comfortably. No heart-eating going on here - my Cyrus II performs very nicely and I won't be buying any new amps for a long time to come. :-P Me neither, I suppose..... (Miserable innit?? :-) Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!! You've really decided that the worst case scenario is going to happen. You might get a nice surprise and find two huge bundles of bubble wrap in there. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote What's the situation with that new amp? Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the valve phono stages!! So you will be using it with another of your collection, then? Cartridges? Yes, I like the M75ED2 as much as anything for making MP3s - tracks nice and quiet and creates a sound which is 'punchy' rather than refined and plays back nicely from the computer. You might remember the comparisons from a year or two back - one or two people picked the humble (but excellent) AT95E as being as good as anything?? (Not many people picked the V15/5!!) This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! - Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!! My arm has a fixed head shell - I've owned it for nearly forty years and I suspect it is yet another bit of kit that will see me out quite comfortably. That's also good. I like to fart around with the headshells - it's part of the fun for me!! Here's the new kid on the go: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG (I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-) Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!! You've really decided that the worst case scenario is going to happen. You might get a nice surprise and find two huge bundles of bubble wrap in there. I put a note in the Paypal asking for the platter to be removed and the tonearm be tied down (the included cart makes this deck a bit of a bargain). The seller - no newbie, see: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1 emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but he couldn't get the platter off! I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) |
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emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but
he couldn't get the platter off! I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) As I recall, the turntable bearings on those old DDs were pretty substantial, and so should travel reasonably well even if not removed. I would be a LOT more worried if he doesn't remove the arm counterweight. Whether the arm is strapped down tight or not, there's a lot of energy that has to be dissipated with every drop of the box, and arm bearings are not the most rugged. I've seen arms completely ruined by being shipped with the counterweight still attached. S. |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:00:47 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote What's the situation with that new amp? Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the valve phono stages!! So you will be using it with another of your collection, then? Cartridges? Yes, I like the M75ED2 as much as anything for making MP3s - tracks nice and quiet and creates a sound which is 'punchy' rather than refined and plays back nicely from the computer. You might remember the comparisons from a year or two back - one or two people picked the humble (but excellent) AT95E as being as good as anything?? (Not many people picked the V15/5!!) I remember - I suspect the V15 thing was some sort of basic incompatibility with the arm. I'd never heard one sound that way before. The M75ED2 is a good cart, though. This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! - Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!! My arm has a fixed head shell - I've owned it for nearly forty years and I suspect it is yet another bit of kit that will see me out quite comfortably. That's also good. I like to fart around with the headshells - it's part of the fun for me!! Here's the new kid on the go: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG (I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-) Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is) Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!! You've really decided that the worst case scenario is going to happen. You might get a nice surprise and find two huge bundles of bubble wrap in there. I put a note in the Paypal asking for the platter to be removed and the tonearm be tied down (the included cart makes this deck a bit of a bargain). The seller - no newbie, see: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1 emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but he couldn't get the platter off! I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the platter shifting in the post. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message ... emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but he couldn't get the platter off! I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) As I recall, the turntable bearings on those old DDs were pretty substantial, and so should travel reasonably well even if not removed. It's not the bearing I'm worried about - if the platter comes off in transit that's the tonearm, cart and lid gone as well as the top of the deck probably scarred!! I would be a LOT more worried if he doesn't remove the arm counterweight. Whether the arm is strapped down tight or not, there's a lot of energy that has to be dissipated with every drop of the box, and arm bearings are not the most rugged. I've seen arms completely ruined by being shipped with the counterweight still attached. Yes, you're not wrong and also trap a sheet of bubble wrap under the lid to prevent it chafing shiny spots on the corners of the deck! The trouble is, it seems there's only so much you can ask of anyone who is not looking to make a fortune on a sale like this! I feel a 'Notes To eBay Sellers' webpage coming on....!! (The cart I got this morning not only had sellotape holding the stylus guard on, it had a strip of waxy paper over the top of the cartridge to prevent it sticking to the sellotape!!) |
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"Don Pearce" wrote I remember - I suspect the V15 thing was some sort of basic incompatibility with the arm. I'd never heard one sound that way before. ??? I forget which deck I wa using for those comparisons - might have been the SL1210.... The M75ED2 is a good cart, though. Yep. A good all-rounder for most 'modern music'!! Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is) It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning: "I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and to be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9." ?? I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the platter shifting in the post. He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-) |
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"Keith G" wrote in message ... "Don Pearce" wrote I remember - I suspect the V15 thing was some sort of basic incompatibility with the arm. I'd never heard one sound that way before. ??? I forget which deck I wa using for those comparisons - might have been the SL1210.... The M75ED2 is a good cart, though. Yep. A good all-rounder for most 'modern music'!! Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is) It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning: "I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and to be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9." ?? I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the platter shifting in the post. He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-) That would do it! S. |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:32:11 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is) It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning: "I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and to be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9." ?? Well, the ml stylus of the OC9 should be a bit kinder to the groove, although it obviously will hit more defects. I suspect the internals of the cartridge itself are pretty similar. I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post..... ;-) With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the platter shifting in the post. He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-) Well, if he has, I hope he turned it over and hammered the sharp end flat on the other side, or it might drop out and do more damage. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:32:11 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is) It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning: "I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and to be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9." ?? Well, the ml stylus of the OC9 should be a bit kinder to the groove, although it obviously will hit more defects. I suspect the internals of the cartridge itself are pretty similar. OK. Usually the case with various manufacturers.... He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-) Well, if he has, I hope he turned it over and hammered the sharp end flat on the other side, or it might drop out and do more damage. Sure, but in the interests of, er, *accuracy* 'cut nails' don't have 'sharp ends'!! http://www.vandykes.com/product/02220933/ ;-) (Bloody sharp edges though!!) |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Keith G" wrote in message "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Looks like its worth at least half of what you paid for it, champ! Sure.... Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-( So what are you bitching about then? Didn't get the joke, I see. Trust me, mon brave, I've had/heard more SS amps than you've had hot dinners - the amp I got filled all my requirements, see the location: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/computer.JPG Looks like a certifiable POS, and your comments say it sounds no better than it looks. I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at usable levels.) See previous comments about certifiable POS. See your complaint: "I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage" I wanted a balance control - I got one. (For offset speaker positioning at close range.) That's hardly remarkable. I wanted to put my monitor on it - I have. (Tricky with the valve amp I had before.... ;-) That's hardly remarkable. I wanted it *now* (*then*, IYSWIM).... That's hardly remarkable. I got more inputs than I would/will ever need. That's hardly remarkable. It's gotta headphone socket. That's hardly remarkable. It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but I like to have them with SS kit....) That's hardly remarkable. It don't run hot. That's hardly remarkable. It's *instant* on and off. That's hardly remarkable. It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle.... See your complaint: "gutless power delivery" It cost feck-all. I recently picked up a receiver with 3 times the power (decidely not gutless) and got change from $100. Oh, and it even has a balance control. It's *sweeet*.... I wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a POS given all of your whining about its audible faults. I love it. Sue me for falling in love with the nicest, smartest, prettiest girl around, as opposed to them meanest, stupidist, ugliest... It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't - you reading this Phil....??) What about "gutless power delivery"? Where have I gone wrong? See your comments a few posts up. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Keith G" wrote in message "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp. I just did: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with warranty!! Looks like its worth at least half of what you paid for it, champ! Sure.... Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-( So what are you bitching about then? Didn't get the joke, I see. Yes I did. Trust me, mon brave, I've had/heard more SS amps than you've had hot dinners - the amp I got filled all my requirements, see the location: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/computer.JPG Looks like a certifiable POS, and your comments say it sounds no better than it looks. Looks like? Looks?? OK, dismissing kit on the strength of magazine reviews and hearsay is one thing (and not uncommon in this group), but getting all bent out of shape from a picture on a website is extreme behaviour by anyone's standards... I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at usable levels.) See previous comments about certifiable POS. See your complaint: "I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage" *Complaint*? I merely passed a comment (it is noisy compared with my valve phono stage) - are you a Jewish lawyer by any chance? I wanted a balance control - I got one. (For offset speaker positioning at close range.) That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? I wanted to put my monitor on it - I have. (Tricky with the valve amp I had before.... ;-) That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? I wanted it *now* (*then*, IYSWIM).... That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? I got more inputs than I would/will ever need. That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? It's gotta headphone socket. That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but I like to have them with SS kit....) That's hardly remarkable. Cyrus II ain't got 'em... :-) But.... Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? It don't run hot. That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? It's *instant* on and off. That's hardly remarkable. Who said anything about 'remarkable'?? It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle.... See your complaint: "gutless power delivery" Look up 'complaint' and 'comment' in an *English* dictionary and see if you can work out the difference. If it was cause for *complaint* I wouldn't have bought the amp or kept it.... It cost feck-all. I recently picked up a receiver with 3 times the power (decidely not gutless) and got change from $100. Oh, and it even has a balance control. Sure. I believe you... It's *sweeet*.... I wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a POS given all of your whining about its audible faults. My whining? See below: I love it. Is that what you call 'whining'? (Better look that up in the dictionary also, while your on it....) Sue me for falling in love with the nicest, smartest, prettiest girl around, Sue you? You *are* a Jewish lawyer then! :-) as opposed to them meanest, stupidist, ugliest... Fine. I'll go for one who can cook... :-) It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't - you reading this Phil....??) What about "gutless power delivery"? What about it? It is gutless - most sub 2,000 quid SS amps are.... Where have I gone wrong? See your comments a few posts up. Comments? Don't you mean *complaints*?? (Do you know *what* you mean?) Put some more coffee on Arny - you've gone off half-cocked today...!! ;-) |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at usable levels.) See previous comments about certifiable POS. See your complaint: "I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage" *Complaint*? I merely passed a comment (it is noisy compared with my valve phono stage) Any SS phono stage that is noisier than a comparable tubed phono stage is a certificable POS. are you a Jewish lawyer by any chance? No, just a descendent of a Jewish sea captain. ;-) It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but I like to have them with SS kit....) That's hardly remarkable. Cyrus II ain't got 'em... :-) But.... So what? The Cyrus II isn't my recommendation. It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle.... See your complaint: "gutless power delivery" Look up 'complaint' and 'comment' in an *English* dictionary and see if you can work out the difference. If it was cause for *complaint* I wouldn't have bought the amp or kept it.... It cost feck-all. I recently picked up a receiver with 3 times the power (decidely not gutless) and got change from $100. Oh, and it even has a balance control. Sure. I believe you... It's *sweeet*.... I wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a POS given all of your whining about its audible faults. My whining? See below: I love it. Is that what you call 'whining'? (Better look that up in the dictionary also, while your on it....) Sue me for falling in love with the nicest, smartest, prettiest girl around, Sue you? You *are* a Jewish lawyer then! :-) as opposed to them meanest, stupidist, ugliest... Fine. I'll go for one who can cook... :-) See "smartest". It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't - you reading this Phil....??) What about "gutless power delivery"? What about it? It is gutless - most sub 2,000 quid SS amps are.... ...if you include only tubed amps and SS amps that are not competent designs. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at usable levels.) See previous comments about certifiable POS. See your complaint: "I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage" *Complaint*? I merely passed a comment (it is noisy compared with my valve phono stage) Any SS phono stage that is noisier than a comparable tubed phono stage is a certificable POS. That's not a real word - try 'certifiable'..... are you a Jewish lawyer by any chance? No, just a descendent of a Jewish sea captain. ;-) Blimey! You don't get to bump into too many of *them* over here.....!! (That'll be 'Ahoy Vay'! then...?? :-) I'll just call you Ishmael..... ;-) |
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Keith G wrote:
snip Here's the new kid on the go: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG (I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-) snip Cracking carts IMO - incredibly sweet, and track the dreaded inner grooves like few others (I've been using an OC9 for a while). I'll send you that OC3 (v. similar to the OC9) for a mess around in the fullness of time ;-) Rob |
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"Keith G" wrote in message ... Only thing is - what do I do wiv all these *spares*:... http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/spare%20amps.JPG I'll give you a tenner for the tatty looking grey one ;-) Phil |
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"Rob" wrote in message ... Keith G wrote: snip Here's the new kid on the go: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG (I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-) snip Cracking carts IMO - incredibly sweet, and track the dreaded inner grooves like few others (I've been using an OC9 for a while). Hi Rob, Yes, I'm very pleased. The OC5 is detailed, clear and very full-bodied. Tracks lovely, as you say and delivered a *serious* lower register from the violin in my customary post-prandial Larka - the *definitive* Boult/NPO/Bean version which is mine (and Serge's) favourite!! On my staple Laurie Andersons, it projects vocals nicely forward of the mix and is quite forward overall. (A 'big panty' cart maybe, but no hoe!! ;-) I played it back to back with my newly-acquired ultra l/o Ortofon MC200 (0.09 mV) and the differences were pronounced. The Orto is a waif-like thing by comparison, but no less captivating in a totally different way - still projecting vocals forward but with a much deeper and more distant and possibly slightly less distinct soundstage. (That wispy bint with the long, blonde hair in Lord Of The Rings by comparison? ;-) So, no favourite/winner/whatever yet - far too early and I had just changed valves which hasn't helped, but it does look like there will be two different horses for categorically different courses here!! :-) But.... Interestingly, I followed them immediately with my 'bread and butter' daily hack (MM cart, name withheld - I'm getting too much competition on eBay for needles as it is) and it simply said 'OK wodger wanna do then - play a bit o' music or summat??' and off it went! *Not* ****e - every note and nuance is still there, the tone is sublime and the 'rhythm' very satisfying as usual! Vocals not particularly forward and soundstage not quite as extended but still deep, nevertheless. (Helped by the triodes, obviously). I still say if it were the only cart I had, I'd not complain!! I'll send you that OC3 (v. similar to the OC9) for a mess around in the fullness of time ;-) Rob No, don't do that - wait until you're passing and have got time to swing by for a catch-up. We'll include it in the usual trading of wampum, fish-hooks and axe-heads - I'll see if I can find the 'spare' V15/III which seems to have disappeared somewhere, a while back!! |
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"Philip North" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message ... Only thing is - what do I do wiv all these *spares*:... http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/spare%20amps.JPG I'll give you a tenner for the tatty looking grey one ;-) Hmm! ]:-) |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: Tell me summat. The (outrageous) little speakers it's feeding are stubborn little barsterds at only 82 dB and the volume display** http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/display.JPG reads -10 dB for *loud* - does this matter, being SS an' all...?? (Fit were valves you'd think you were out of the optimum operating range.... Hi Keith, One of the nice things about modern SS amps is that the 'optimum operating point' is anywhare from the noise floor up to 90% of full power, so as long as the little beastie isn't audibly clipping, there's no problem. In fact, I have my own main system set up so that the volume control is at -6dB at the clipping point for 0dB FS on my CD player. Gives you much more control when playing quietly, as opposed to so many lunatic mainstream amps where you can only use the bottom quarter of the control. I guess there really are people so dumb that they think an amp is more powerful if you get full output with the volume control only a quarter up.... -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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swap the valves around - then get decent used Mullard ECC83 and ECC82,
and replace dodgy Chinese KT88s with Svetlana's , or Mullard EL34s or GE(C) 7581a/KT66 - this amp will take a lot of power valves. These amps are INCREDIBLY reliable so far, the build beats many other manufacturers, so hang in there and get the right valves. Stewart what is more reliable a Prima Luna or a Meridian ??- I know the answer, you need to rethink Chinese manufacturing - you're out of date |
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