"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:19:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


And I'm sure there is plenty of room for the amp in the bottom of that
big speaker box - there's a new take on integrated speakers for you...


Hmm....

Haven't you got pertaters to peel or summat??




Never peel 'em - much nicer with the skin on.



Not *mashed* they ain't!! :-)


Carrots, on the other
hand...


Stick with the pertaters, Don - or you'll get Arny bitching about "red
herrings" :-)

(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls' into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:51:18 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Not *mashed* they ain't!! :-)


Carrots, on the other
hand...


Stick with the pertaters, Don - or you'll get Arny bitching about "red
herrings" :-)


Kippers to you, mate. And then only the nasty ones from supermarkets -
real ones have hardly any colour (thinking back to a trip to Arbroath
years ago).

(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls' into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)


I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:51:18 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Not *mashed* they ain't!! :-)


Carrots, on the other
hand...


Stick with the pertaters, Don - or you'll get Arny bitching about "red
herrings" :-)


Kippers to you, mate. And then only the nasty ones from supermarkets -
real ones have hardly any colour (thinking back to a trip to Arbroath
years ago).

(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls'
into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)


I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.



No, Alzheimers is definitely *bad* for the brain....

Right, here you are then:

A while back you asked for a recording from the driver level and the horn
mouth on the Pinkies - not easy as the horn mouth is on the rear, but the
new Faure horns exit at the front. So, with the mic positioned thusly:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/driverposition.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/hornposition.JPG

I made the following (horrendous) recordings - 'normal', 'driver' and
'horn':

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Normal.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Driver.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Horn.mp3

I know the level is too high on the 'close up' recordings. I know they clip.
I know they are lopsided, due to removing considerable DC Offset after they
were recorded clipping*!! I know all the bad ****....

(These extracts are for an *idea* - I ain't after Plowie's job...!! ;-)

(Not for fishmongers neither....!! ;-)

Yes, the speakers are raw and yes, they need hoovering out already - I see
the sawdust is starting to get through!! :-)

Enjoy. Comment. Breathe slow. Appreciate life for the *wonderful* gift it
is....

;-)

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:36:36 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


No, Alzheimers is definitely *bad* for the brain....

Right, here you are then:

A while back you asked for a recording from the driver level and the horn
mouth on the Pinkies - not easy as the horn mouth is on the rear, but the
new Faure horns exit at the front. So, with the mic positioned thusly:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/driverposition.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/hornposition.JPG

I made the following (horrendous) recordings - 'normal', 'driver' and
'horn':

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Normal.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Driver.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Horn.mp3

I know the level is too high on the 'close up' recordings. I know they clip.
I know they are lopsided, due to removing considerable DC Offset after they
were recorded clipping*!! I know all the bad ****....

(These extracts are for an *idea* - I ain't after Plowie's job...!! ;-)

(Not for fishmongers neither....!! ;-)

Yes, the speakers are raw and yes, they need hoovering out already - I see
the sawdust is starting to get through!! :-)

Enjoy. Comment. Breathe slow. Appreciate life for the *wonderful* gift it
is....

;-)

Ta muchly. That confirms the way I thought they worked - and the horn
(transmission line) bits do seem to be tuned pretty much right.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:04:56 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:51:18 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Not *mashed* they ain't!! :-)


Carrots, on the other
hand...


Stick with the pertaters, Don - or you'll get Arny bitching about "red
herrings" :-)


Kippers to you, mate. And then only the nasty ones from supermarkets -
real ones have hardly any colour (thinking back to a trip to Arbroath
years ago).

Not to be pedantic about this, but I'm from Montrose, and an Arbroath
smokie is *not* a kipper. Kippers are herrings, an Arbroath smokie is
a haddock. To rotate back to a musical theme, essentially the same as
Peggy Lee called a 'fine Finnan Haddie', which hails originally from
Findon, further up the coast.

(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls' into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)

I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.

Nah, he likes valves and horns!
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:37:52 +0100, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:04:56 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:51:18 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Not *mashed* they ain't!! :-)


Carrots, on the other
hand...


Stick with the pertaters, Don - or you'll get Arny bitching about "red
herrings" :-)


Kippers to you, mate. And then only the nasty ones from supermarkets -
real ones have hardly any colour (thinking back to a trip to Arbroath
years ago).

Not to be pedantic about this, but I'm from Montrose, and an Arbroath
smokie is *not* a kipper. Kippers are herrings, an Arbroath smokie is
a haddock. To rotate back to a musical theme, essentially the same as
Peggy Lee called a 'fine Finnan Haddie', which hails originally from
Findon, further up the coast.

Was that a haddock? Bugger me - I've spent the last twenty years in a
state of confusion over me fish (and me a Faroe man and all!). Oh well
- so where do they make kippers, then?

(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls' into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)

I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.

Nah, he likes valves and horns!

Now, now. We must make room for all here.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:37:52 +0100, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:


Not to be pedantic about this, but I'm from Montrose, and an Arbroath
smokie is *not* a kipper. Kippers are herrings, an Arbroath smokie is
a haddock. To rotate back to a musical theme, essentially the same as
Peggy Lee called a 'fine Finnan Haddie', which hails originally from
Findon, further up the coast.


No, this is a kipper:

http://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/image...orgekipper.jpg

(That one is in nice St. Chav colours! :-)



Was that a haddock? Bugger me - I've spent the last twenty years in a
state of confusion over me fish (and me a Faroe man and all!). Oh well
- so where do they make kippers, then?


Taiwan, probably.....



(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls'
into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)

I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.

Nah, he likes valves and horns!

Now, now. We must make room for all here.



Certainly - s'not like it's overcrowded in here, izzit??

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:37:52 +0100, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:


Not to be pedantic about this, but I'm from Montrose, and an Arbroath
smokie is *not* a kipper. Kippers are herrings, an Arbroath smokie is
a haddock. To rotate back to a musical theme, essentially the same as
Peggy Lee called a 'fine Finnan Haddie', which hails originally from
Findon, further up the coast.


No, this is a kipper:

http://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/image...orgekipper.jpg

(That one is in nice St. Chav colours! :-)


That truly is indescribable.



Was that a haddock? Bugger me - I've spent the last twenty years in a
state of confusion over me fish (and me a Faroe man and all!). Oh well
- so where do they make kippers, then?


Taiwan, probably.....


I wish that was a joke.



(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls'
into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)

I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.

Nah, he likes valves and horns!

Now, now. We must make room for all here.



Certainly - s'not like it's overcrowded in here, izzit??



HELLO (hello.... hello.... hello.... hello....).

Nope, just echoes.

d

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"Rob" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Rob" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

Some of the rest of us are mostly interested in
veridical perceptions. Illusions are fun, but that's
about it for them.
'Veridical perception' - oxymoron.
Wrong.

Google finds upwards of 100,000 references to this
phrase.

Wrong.

different.

15,300 actually.....

The myth here is that Google results are unchanging.

The current number is "about 14,300". YMMV.

However, 10,000 or 100,000 aren't signfiicantly
different in this context. It's all "lots".

BTW thanks for distracting the discussion on a trivial
point - that's known as the proverbial "red herring"
argument. I knew you couldn't do any better than that -
like try to stay relevant.

I think you were trying to point out to us all that your
preferred rationale was near-ubiquitous.

It's not a rationale, its a reasonably common word phrase, given that it is
highly specific to the study of perception.

My point that a
google search showed that 1) it's relatively minor, and
2) context is important (IOW many of those references
could be critical).

Pardon me, but if that was truely your point, why did it take so much
prodding to get it out of you?

So I at least was trying to get to the bottom of the
basis of your argument, rather than the outputs you
generate.

No, you were trying to respond to a serious discussion with redicule.

End of discussion, on the grounds that casting pearls before swine is
generally not wise.

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


No, this is a kipper:

http://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/image...orgekipper.jpg

(That one is in nice St. Chav colours! :-)


That truly is indescribable.


It's to go with the flags on yer car....

;-)





Was that a haddock? Bugger me - I've spent the last twenty years in a
state of confusion over me fish (and me a Faroe man and all!). Oh well
- so where do they make kippers, then?


Taiwan, probably.....


I wish that was a joke.


So do I - it's not hard to find Union Jack flags with 'Made In Taiwan'
printed on them!! :-(


Certainly - s'not like it's overcrowded in here, izzit??



HELLO (hello.... hello.... hello.... hello....).

Nope, just echoes.


Future echoes?? :-)