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"tony sayer" wrote


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Or even a S/H Audiolab;))

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes;)......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Keep it real. In the UK you can get a 'squashed' plastic mesh tube
(creates an oval cross section) for *coppers* which will do the same
job....


**Tried it. It works, sort of. Probably OK for your girly, Pommy trees, but
not for good old Aussie gums.


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www.rageaudio.com.au



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In article , Keith G
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"tony sayer" wrote


writes
Or even a S/H Audiolab;))

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes;)......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)


Accurate..

Course its very boring, bland, neutral, and as you say Grey..

Thats what I like about it:))
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Tony Sayer

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote


writes
Or even a S/H Audiolab;))

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes;)......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a
description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)


Accurate..

Course its very boring, bland, neutral,


???

Streuth, I'll give it a miss then, if that's alright with you!! ;-)


and as you say Grey..

Thats what I like about it:))


OK, let's try a little *accuracy* instead of just throwing the word around -
I never said they were grey (How could I? I've never heard one - see above!)
what I said was "I've never read a description of it that didn't use the
word 'grey' somewhere or other"...

Big difference...

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In article , Keith G
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote


writes
Or even a S/H Audiolab;))

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes;)......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a
description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)


Accurate..

Course its very boring, bland, neutral,


???

Streuth, I'll give it a miss then, if that's alright with you!! ;-)


and as you say Grey..

Thats what I like about it:))


OK, let's try a little *accuracy* instead of just throwing the word around -
I never said they were grey (How could I? I've never heard one - see above!)
what I said was "I've never read a description of it that didn't use the
word 'grey' somewhere or other"...

Big difference...




Well I suppose I like to hear the music and nothing else.

I don't like to hear CD players, Amps, and speakers etc...

Just my idea of how it ought be;)......
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Tony Sayer

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"tony sayer" wrote


Well I suppose I like to hear the music and nothing else.

I don't like to hear CD players, Amps, and speakers etc...

Just my idea of how it ought be;)......


I can listen to bits of kit when making comparisons or I can forget all that
and hear only the music - it ain't hard to do. (Bit like *watching* the
windscreen wipers or not even seeing them, when driving in the rain, I
suppose...??)

Anyway, whatever turns you on - my wish is only that you enjoy your music. I
enjoy mine be it on the main system, secondary (SS) system, in the bathroom
on the radio or even in the car!! It's years since I heard a bandstand
outdoors - they can be very effective if the wind's in the right direction
and I haven't heard a 'live gig' in living memory (includes Ely catherdral)
that I'd swap my valves and vinyl for!!

(Incorrigible, ain't I...?? ;-)

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In article , Rob
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On the one hand, I gather from technical people on this ng that all amps
which 1) drive a 2 ohm load at 3 times the maximum 8 ohm power (100W 8
ohm, 300W 2 ohm at 1% THD for 3 seconds for example); *and* 2) are
properly designed and manufactured (nearly all of the big name stuff
nowadays), will sound identical.

I'm not sure which "technical people" would say that. In reality some other
conditions might need to be satisfied before amps would "sound indentical"
in use. However see below... :-)

I doubt any Denon achieves (1) btw.

On the other hand, it's not hard to find plenty of reviews and anecdotes
that suggest amplifiers at a given spec do sound different.

Curious - is there any defining factor in your opinion?!

The problem is that although there are many, many such "reviews and
anecdotes", there seems to be a dearth of any reliable evidence to support
such claims in many cases. Magazine reviewers often make statements about
the differences they (claim they) can hear between amps. But when listening
comparison tests have been carried out which conform to some fairly basic
requirements, they seem to be unable to tell one amp from another *simply
on the basis of the sounds*. Thus for all we know they are responding to
other 'differences' which have nothing to do with the amps as such, or to
the name badges...

Alas, if the reviewers had to start saying they couldn't generally hear any
such differences, they may find they'd have to write about something
else... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

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In article , Keith G
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"tony sayer" wrote


Well I suppose I like to hear the music and nothing else.

I don't like to hear CD players, Amps, and speakers etc...

Just my idea of how it ought be;)......


I can listen to bits of kit when making comparisons or I can forget all that
and hear only the music - it ain't hard to do. (Bit like *watching* the
windscreen wipers or not even seeing them, when driving in the rain, I
suppose...??)

Anyway, whatever turns you on - my wish is only that you enjoy your music. I
enjoy mine be it on the main system, secondary (SS) system, in the bathroom
on the radio or even in the car!! It's years since I heard a bandstand
outdoors - they can be very effective if the wind's in the right direction
and I haven't heard a 'live gig' in living memory (includes Ely catherdral)
that I'd swap my valves and vinyl for!!

(Incorrigible, ain't I...?? ;-)




Yes..try it sometime, Ely that is, very uplifting the sound the)

Hope to see some of U at the odd prom:)))
--
Tony Sayer

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On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:52:17 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

Hope to see some of U at the odd prom:)))

What day is that one on?

d

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In article , Don Pearce
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On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:52:17 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

Hope to see some of U at the odd prom:)))

What day is that one on?

Dunno Don.. one with an odd day in it eh?..

d


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Tony Sayer