In article , Trevor Wilson
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Trevor Wilson
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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A couple of years ago I heard a Arcam integrated amp set up with my
pioneer cd deck and speakers. The sound was great to my ears. Now two
years on I cannot remember which arcam amp I heard and was thinking of
buying one on ebay and then having a visit to Wilmslow audio for a
test. Cannot remember which speakers they were matched too either.
Any thoughts on an ebay purchase and which Arcam amp please.



Arcam? No idea - I've just bought a brand new Denon PMA-655R amp in my
'SS
revisited' quest for best sound from the smaller of the Firewood Horns!!
(Bloody SS seems to grip the smaller, less sensitive drive units
better!!)
I am under the impresion that it's an OK amp with a particularly good
Phono Stage - anyone care to confirm or shoot that down?

**Personally, I would spend the same Bucks (Squid) on a Rotel, as your
Denon
fairly 'screams' in the HF. IOW: It's just another Asian amp, with a
pretty
face. Now, if you'd dropped a few more Squid for the PMA1500AE, then THAT
is
a whole 'nuther cricket match. It is a very bloody good amp, with an
excellent phono stage. And I'm here to tell you that I am not a lover of
MOSFET amps, but the PMA1500AE is pretty damned good. As usual, with all
the
recent generation Denon tuners, it's matching partner is an absolute gem.
In
fact, the new Denon tuners make some of the old stalwarts (Yamaha T2,
Tandberg, et al) sound pretty damned ordinary. And they don't cost the
Earth
either.

Quite right that, in fact a Denon tuner complete with the right external
aerial is an excellent source of audio.

However I find these days over here in the UK that a satellite receiver
brings
in the best of Europe too!.

Do they have much in the way of sat signal sources over there in AU
?......

**Maybe, but I really don't know. Trouble is, Australia is so damned big and
the population so small, that it doesn't pay to aim too many stellites over
the place.

Humm Thought that something like that for covering very large areas
would be ideal..



So, in short, you should have spent a few more Squid for something really
nice, instead of another (ho-hum) Asian amp.


Or even a S/H Audiolab)

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes......


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au




--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote


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Or even a S/H Audiolab)

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)

In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote


writes
Or even a S/H Audiolab)

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)


Accurate..

Course its very boring, bland, neutral, and as you say Grey..

Thats what I like about it)
--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G
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"tony sayer" wrote


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Or even a S/H Audiolab)

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a
description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)


Accurate..

Course its very boring, bland, neutral,


???

Streuth, I'll give it a miss then, if that's alright with you!! ;-)


and as you say Grey..

Thats what I like about it)


OK, let's try a little *accuracy* instead of just throwing the word around -
I never said they were grey (How could I? I've never heard one - see above!)
what I said was "I've never read a description of it that didn't use the
word 'grey' somewhere or other"...

Big difference...

In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote


writes
Or even a S/H Audiolab)

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a
description
of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or other...???)


Accurate..

Course its very boring, bland, neutral,


???

Streuth, I'll give it a miss then, if that's alright with you!! ;-)


and as you say Grey..

Thats what I like about it)


OK, let's try a little *accuracy* instead of just throwing the word around -
I never said they were grey (How could I? I've never heard one - see above!)
what I said was "I've never read a description of it that didn't use the
word 'grey' somewhere or other"...

Big difference...




Well I suppose I like to hear the music and nothing else.

I don't like to hear CD players, Amps, and speakers etc...

Just my idea of how it ought be......
--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote


Well I suppose I like to hear the music and nothing else.

I don't like to hear CD players, Amps, and speakers etc...

Just my idea of how it ought be......


I can listen to bits of kit when making comparisons or I can forget all that
and hear only the music - it ain't hard to do. (Bit like *watching* the
windscreen wipers or not even seeing them, when driving in the rain, I
suppose...??)

Anyway, whatever turns you on - my wish is only that you enjoy your music. I
enjoy mine be it on the main system, secondary (SS) system, in the bathroom
on the radio or even in the car!! It's years since I heard a bandstand
outdoors - they can be very effective if the wind's in the right direction
and I haven't heard a 'live gig' in living memory (includes Ely catherdral)
that I'd swap my valves and vinyl for!!

(Incorrigible, ain't I...?? ;-)

In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote


Well I suppose I like to hear the music and nothing else.

I don't like to hear CD players, Amps, and speakers etc...

Just my idea of how it ought be......


I can listen to bits of kit when making comparisons or I can forget all that
and hear only the music - it ain't hard to do. (Bit like *watching* the
windscreen wipers or not even seeing them, when driving in the rain, I
suppose...??)

Anyway, whatever turns you on - my wish is only that you enjoy your music. I
enjoy mine be it on the main system, secondary (SS) system, in the bathroom
on the radio or even in the car!! It's years since I heard a bandstand
outdoors - they can be very effective if the wind's in the right direction
and I haven't heard a 'live gig' in living memory (includes Ely catherdral)
that I'd swap my valves and vinyl for!!

(Incorrigible, ain't I...?? ;-)




Yes..try it sometime, Ely that is, very uplifting the sound there

Hope to see some of U at the odd prom))
--
Tony Sayer

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"tony sayer" wrote


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Or even a S/H Audiolab)

**Not so fond the old ones, myself. A bit hard on my ears.

Possibly a shade too accurate for some tastes......



So what are you two saying between you? Accurate = unpleasant???

**Not me. I like accurate amps (and speakers, CD players, et al). What I
don't enjoy are amps which sound irritating. Old Audiolabs sound irritating.


(I've never heard any Audiolab gear myself and I've never read a
description of it that didn't use the word 'grey' somewhere or
other...???)

**OK. Audiolabs are pretty good amps, vis a vis load tolerance. Not all is
bad with them.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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