Rogers kit any good?
 

In article , Serge Auckland
wrote:


This then leaves the bass end. Here, sadly, there is no easy way, as
absorbing frequencies below a few hundred hertz requires a much greater
thickness of material than there is normally room for, especially in
your listening room.

For lower frequencies it probably makes more sense to employ some form of
equalisation or correction of the signals prior to the amps and speakers if
you want to deal with room resonances, etc. In principle, altering the room
acoustic would give superior results, but it can be so difficult
(expensive) in practice to improve the LF acoustics that electronic
alterations end up making more sense.

Slainte,

Jim

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Rogers kit any good?
 

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:55:38 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

and/or John
Lewis*,

A most interesting store. "Never knowingly undersold" but I find them
consistently among the MOST expensive sources of anything :-)

Rogers kit any good?
 

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Wake TF up Plowie - I've swapped Fostex for Visaton in 3 pairs of
different speakers and mentioned here before that Fostex don't do bass!
(Actually they do, but I don't need to argue the point...)

Never mind the milkman or even the 5 or 6 subscribers *here* that have
heard the 'firewood horns' at various stages of their evolution - as I
said recently, it's what pleases me that counts at the end of the day,
but I do take heed from what others say as they very often *can* see
the wood for the trees.

They seem to give you pleasure for a few minutes before you move on to
your latest fad...

Now, here's your chance - I'm open to suggestion (always), what is your
own recommendation for speakers?

Not worth even mentioning to you. But lets just say I moved on from horns
and Lowthers 40 years ago.

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*Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Rogers kit any good?
 

In article ,
Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:
A most interesting store. "Never knowingly undersold" but I find them
consistently among the MOST expensive sources of anything :-)

I bought a TV from them recently, and although the sticker price wasn't
the lowest I could find, the inclusive 5 year warranty and delivery made
it pretty competitive.

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*Tell me to 'stuff it' - I'm a taxidermist.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Rogers kit any good?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Wake TF up Plowie - I've swapped Fostex for Visaton in 3 pairs of
different speakers and mentioned here before that Fostex don't do bass!
(Actually they do, but I don't need to argue the point...)

Never mind the milkman or even the 5 or 6 subscribers *here* that have
heard the 'firewood horns' at various stages of their evolution - as I
said recently, it's what pleases me that counts at the end of the day,
but I do take heed from what others say as they very often *can* see
the wood for the trees.

They seem to give you pleasure for a few minutes before you move on to
your latest fad...



Fad? Interesting word.....

Lemme see....

I try 20,000 SS amps and didn't even know I was looking for valves 'til I
got a valve amp, then I try a few different types and find I prefer triodes,
which leads me to try out firewood horns (high sensitivity/fullrange
drivers/no crossovers) and I'm now on my 6th pair and am trying out
different drivers...

How faddish is that?

Especially when you factor in that I've played/preferred vinyl since Day 1
of 'getting into hifi' (and don't care if I never again hear another CD)
and, although I know ****-all about electronics and I'm no carpenter, I've
bust my arse to build some of the kit I wanted to try - earlier this evening
I was listening to some stunning music on kit 75% of which I built myself.

(Fekkin' hard work some of these fads....!!)

I think you just wanna poke me in the eye, Plowie....


Now, here's your chance - I'm open to suggestion (always), what is your
own recommendation for speakers?

Not worth even mentioning to you. But lets just say I moved on from horns
and Lowthers 40 years ago.


You did?

Jeez, I'm champing at the bit now!! What's the big secret - what did you
move on to??

(Could be a new fad to try..... :-)

Rogers kit any good?
 

In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Wake TF up Plowie - I've swapped Fostex for Visaton in 3 pairs of
different speakers and mentioned here before that Fostex don't do
bass! (Actually they do, but I don't need to argue the point...)

Never mind the milkman or even the 5 or 6 subscribers *here* that
have heard the 'firewood horns' at various stages of their evolution
- as I said recently, it's what pleases me that counts at the end of
the day, but I do take heed from what others say as they very often
*can* see the wood for the trees.

They seem to give you pleasure for a few minutes before you move on to
your latest fad...



Fad? Interesting word.....

Lemme see....

I try 20,000 SS amps and didn't even know I was looking for valves 'til
I got a valve amp, then I try a few different types and find I prefer
triodes, which leads me to try out firewood horns (high
sensitivity/fullrange drivers/no crossovers) and I'm now on my 6th pair
and am trying out different drivers...

How faddish is that?

Very, considering the time scale. And each one appears to be perfection to
your ears just after you've got it. So I'm not quite clear why you
continue to search for 'better'.

Especially when you factor in that I've played/preferred vinyl since Day
1 of 'getting into hifi' (and don't care if I never again hear another
CD) and, although I know ****-all about electronics and I'm no
carpenter, I've bust my arse to build some of the kit I wanted to try -
earlier this evening I was listening to some stunning music on kit 75%
of which I built myself.

(Fekkin' hard work some of these fads....!!)

I think you just wanna poke me in the eye, Plowie....

No need for me to do that - you do it nicely to yourself. You obviously
are searching for something which sure as eggs are eggs isn't natural
sound reproduction.


Now, here's your chance - I'm open to suggestion (always), what is
your own recommendation for speakers?

Not worth even mentioning to you. But lets just say I moved on from
horns and Lowthers 40 years ago.


You did?

Jeez, I'm champing at the bit now!! What's the big secret - what did you
move on to??

(Could be a new fad to try..... :-)

As I say no point. My views (and pretty well the rest of the world ;-))
are so much apart from yours.

--
*Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Rogers kit any good?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote

They seem to give you pleasure for a few minutes before you move on to
your latest fad...


First off, I snipped some crap in the interests of tidyness and clarity - I
trust this hasn't discommoded you too much?


I try 20,000 SS amps and didn't even know I was looking for valves 'til
I got a valve amp, then I try a few different types and find I prefer
triodes, which leads me to try out firewood horns (high
sensitivity/fullrange drivers/no crossovers) and I'm now on my 6th pair
and am trying out different drivers...

How faddish is that?

Very, considering the time scale.


???

Time scale? You got a stopwatch on me or summat? - I've got a time scale I
should stick to?


And each one appears to be perfection to
your ears just after you've got it. So I'm not quite clear why you
continue to search for 'better'.


Perfection? You ever seen me use that word? Keep it real, Plowie....

I search for 'better' because it's my hobby - work this out:

uk = here, where I live and where my antecedents have lived for about a
thousand years...

rec = recreational - see 'hobby' above (and below)....

audio = not embroidery, not cooking, not motorcycles, not movies, not
digital cameras &c....

Get the idea?

If I could have got *best* first time out I'm not sure it would have done me
any good. Larf if you like, but I get a lot of enjoyment from my funny
little voyage of discovery - the worst of my kit makes at least an OK sound,
the new stuff just keeps getting better and better.....

Perfection? No, not even now.....

(Wot a stupid thing to say that was...)



I think you just wanna poke me in the eye, Plowie....

No need for me to do that - you do it nicely to yourself. You obviously
are searching for something which sure as eggs are eggs isn't natural
sound reproduction.


'Natural sound reproduction' WTF is that?

Is it anything to do with playing *recorded/broadcast music* in a way which
is thrilling, exciting, emotional, satisfying &c. &c.?

I don't give a phiddler's phuck about your notions of 'natural sound' - I
want a sound that makes *me* want to play every damn record I've got. I want
to hear *all* the detail, I want a vast soundstage where I can *pinpoint*
instruments and voices and if I get an idea to 'push the envelope' and try
summat else, I'll do it if I can afford to and fekkin' build what I can't
afford to buy...

I'll also do it at a rate which pleases/suits me....

My 'Infidelio' cabinets are not yet finished:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/infi...infidelios.htm

.....and only went *online* about 4:40 pm this afternoon (and which are
*STUNNING*, even as I type) and I'm already pondering the next pair which,
I'm sure you will be pleased to know, won't be for a good while yet.....

(Do you see? - It's *hobby* ****, it never ends.... :-)



Jeez, I'm champing at the bit now!! What's the big secret - what did you
move on to??

(Could be a new fad to try..... :-)

As I say no point. My views (and pretty well the rest of the world ;-))
are so much apart from yours.


The day I start worrying about the opinions of the 'rest of the world' is
the day I jump in the hole and you can shovel the dirt on top of me....

(Do yourself a favour Plowie - start working on the *recreational* bit here
and forget about all this 'when I were a lad in recording studio' pro
horse****....)