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Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files



 
 
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Old July 9th 06, 03:29 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
Clubsprint
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files

I have a large number of MP3 files that I'm streaming and I have an issue
with the variance in the overall level of the files. I'm looking for some
software that I can batch adjust the max level on each file. I don't want to
tamper with the dynamics of the file (ie no compression) just the overall
level. If someone could make a suggestion it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mark



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Old July 9th 06, 04:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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"Clubsprint" wrote in message
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I have a large number of MP3 files that I'm streaming and I have an issue
with the variance in the overall level of the files. I'm looking for some
software that I can batch adjust the max level on each file. I don't want
to tamper with the dynamics of the file (ie no compression) just the
overall level. If someone could make a suggestion it would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks


I'm interested too. I have over 42,000 mp3's now, and I have to ride levels
constantly.
Joe Arnold


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Old July 9th 06, 06:50 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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"Clubsprint" wrote in message..

I don't want to tamper with the dynamics of the file (ie no compression)
just the overall level.



This part ain't gonna happen unless you find a piece of software that
lowers the level of every file to match the quietest.





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Old July 9th 06, 07:21 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files

On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:50:13 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote:


"Clubsprint" wrote in message..

I don't want to tamper with the dynamics of the file (ie no compression)
just the overall level.



This part ain't gonna happen unless you find a piece of software that
lowers the level of every file to match the quietest.


That's what MP3 Gain does.

Julian


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Old July 9th 06, 07:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files


"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
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I don't want to tamper with the dynamics of the file (ie no compression)
just the overall level.


This part ain't gonna happen unless you find a piece of software that
lowers the level of every file to match the quietest.


Not necessarily so. He doesn't specify peak or average level, so simply
adjusting all files to peak at 0dB Dfs, will match the overall *peak*
levels, and is what most normalising programs do.

MrT.


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Old July 9th 06, 07:25 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:22:07 +1000, "Mr.T" MrT@home wrote:


"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:FG1sg.2528$F8.493@trnddc02...
I don't want to tamper with the dynamics of the file (ie no compression)
just the overall level.


This part ain't gonna happen unless you find a piece of software that
lowers the level of every file to match the quietest.


Not necessarily so. He doesn't specify peak or average level, so simply
adjusting all files to peak at 0dB Dfs, will match the overall *peak*
levels, and is what most normalising programs do.


That isn't good enough. A tune with a low average to peak ratio will
still sound too quiet. MP3 Gain looks at average to peak ratios and
analyzes the perceived quietest track of a group and then lowers the
other to produce a similar volume.

Julian



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Old July 9th 06, 09:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files

On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 00:25:09 -0700, Julian
wrote:

That isn't good enough. A tune with a low average to peak ratio will
still sound too quiet. MP3 Gain looks at average to peak ratios and
analyzes the perceived quietest track of a group and then lowers the
other to produce a similar volume.


How does it cope with a group of files including an acoustic ballad
and a hyper-compressed rock song?
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Old July 9th 06, 11:41 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3files

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 00:25:09 -0700, Julian
wrote:

That isn't good enough. A tune with a low average to peak ratio will
still sound too quiet. MP3 Gain looks at average to peak ratios and
analyzes the perceived quietest track of a group and then lowers the
other to produce a similar volume.


How does it cope with a group of files including an acoustic ballad
and a hyper-compressed rock song?


It'll probably end up making the hyper-compressed rock song pretty quiet.

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Old July 10th 06, 01:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
Pete Rissler
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files

"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 00:25:09 -0700, Julian
wrote:

That isn't good enough. A tune with a low average to peak ratio will
still sound too quiet. MP3 Gain looks at average to peak ratios and
analyzes the perceived quietest track of a group and then lowers the
other to produce a similar volume.


How does it cope with a group of files including an acoustic ballad
and a hyper-compressed rock song?


Mp3Gain has three ways of adjusting the gain; 1 is called Album Gain, this
will change the average gain of the album to a certain user defined level
(default is 89 db) so some songs will be higher than 89 and some lower but
the average for the album will be about 89 this maintains the relative
volume between songs; 2 is track gain, this will increase or decrease all
songs to a user defined gain, so all songs are at the same volume; 3 is just
adding a constant gain to all songs, no analysis is done.

For the above example, using album gain you can increase the volume of both
songs but the relative volume between songs will remain the same, using
track gain the volume of both songs will be about the same. Setting the
gain too high will cause clipping. MP3Gain will show you which songs will
be clipped prior to applying the adjustment.

Pete


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Old July 9th 06, 11:39 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro,alt.music.mp3.hardware,alt.music.mp3
Laurence Payne
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Default Advice needed - Looking for software to batch level adjust MP3 files

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:22:07 +1000, "Mr.T" MrT@home wrote:

Not necessarily so. He doesn't specify peak or average level, so simply
adjusting all files to peak at 0dB Dfs, will match the overall *peak*
levels, and is what most normalising programs do.


Unfortunately some, particularly those in consumer-level programs, try
to raise the average level. This can cause unpleasant effects,
including clipping.
 




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