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Jim H November 6th 03 02:05 PM

gold plated connectors
 
more from the 'Jim Lesurf school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

In article , Jim H
wrote:
more from the 'Arny Krueger school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:


That it became the predominate connector for consumer audio is IMO
a miscarriage of justice and technology. The good news is that a
proper audio system can be constructed today with audio signals
passing through exactly zero of these techno-abortions.


Out of interest, what's so bad about the phono connector? They've
always seeemed, on admitedly an uninformed anaysis, to me intuative
and rather neat way to terminate coax.


For me it tends to be:

1) Due to variations in size, and the design of the inner part of the
'contact' of the female, connections can sometimes be unreliable.

2) The live makes contact before the outer, and is exposed in the
male. This can lead to sudden loud noises if used with equipment on,
and can lead to accidental shorts, etc.

I'm happy enough using them in a domestic context, but given my
druthers, I'd have chosen something else.


Agreed. Problems with phonos seem more slight inconvenience than 'techno -
abortion'

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Dave Plowman November 6th 03 11:55 PM

gold plated connectors
 
In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
You've missed out one *vital* point, though, Arny. XLRs are too large
for the many connections needed on, say, an AV amp. You can populate
to approx twice the density with phonos.


A 5-pin XLR is the same size as a 2-pin XLR and would handle stereo
quite nicely with just one plug. You then break even on space and pick
up considerable convenience.


If you were using an XLR to replace phonos, then a 3 pin would do fine.
And since few domestic setups use balanced inputs, compatibility shouldn't
be a problem. 5 pin tend to be a lot more expensive than 3.
Don't think I've ever seen a 2 pin XLR.

--
*Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman November 6th 03 11:55 PM

gold plated connectors
 
In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
You've missed out one *vital* point, though, Arny. XLRs are too large
for the many connections needed on, say, an AV amp. You can populate
to approx twice the density with phonos.


A 5-pin XLR is the same size as a 2-pin XLR and would handle stereo
quite nicely with just one plug. You then break even on space and pick
up considerable convenience.


If you were using an XLR to replace phonos, then a 3 pin would do fine.
And since few domestic setups use balanced inputs, compatibility shouldn't
be a problem. 5 pin tend to be a lot more expensive than 3.
Don't think I've ever seen a 2 pin XLR.

--
*Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Chris Isbell November 7th 03 05:04 PM

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On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 00:55:42 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman
wrote:

If you were using an XLR to replace phonos, then a 3 pin would do fine.
And since few domestic setups use balanced inputs, compatibility shouldn't
be a problem. 5 pin tend to be a lot more expensive than 3.
Don't think I've ever seen a 2 pin XLR.


I recall reading the XLR stands for screen (X), left and right.


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK

Chris Isbell November 7th 03 05:04 PM

gold plated connectors
 
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 00:55:42 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman
wrote:

If you were using an XLR to replace phonos, then a 3 pin would do fine.
And since few domestic setups use balanced inputs, compatibility shouldn't
be a problem. 5 pin tend to be a lot more expensive than 3.
Don't think I've ever seen a 2 pin XLR.


I recall reading the XLR stands for screen (X), left and right.


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK

Glenn Booth November 7th 03 06:18 PM

gold plated connectors
 
In message , Chris Isbell
writes

I recall reading the XLR stands for screen (X), left and right.


I was told it was 'screen, live and return', but that may just be a
handy way of remembering one way of wiring them, with pin 2 hot. Some
guys I know always refer to them as Cannon plugs - I guess that's just a
manufacturer.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

Glenn Booth November 7th 03 06:18 PM

gold plated connectors
 
In message , Chris Isbell
writes

I recall reading the XLR stands for screen (X), left and right.


I was told it was 'screen, live and return', but that may just be a
handy way of remembering one way of wiring them, with pin 2 hot. Some
guys I know always refer to them as Cannon plugs - I guess that's just a
manufacturer.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

Dave Plowman November 7th 03 09:30 PM

gold plated connectors
 
In article ,
Glenn Booth wrote:
I was told it was 'screen, live and return', but that may just be a
handy way of remembering one way of wiring them, with pin 2 hot. Some
guys I know always refer to them as Cannon plugs - I guess that's just a
manufacturer.


Yes - they were about the only maker in the early days - for pro ones,
anyway.

--
*There's no place like www.home.com *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman November 7th 03 09:30 PM

gold plated connectors
 
In article ,
Glenn Booth wrote:
I was told it was 'screen, live and return', but that may just be a
handy way of remembering one way of wiring them, with pin 2 hot. Some
guys I know always refer to them as Cannon plugs - I guess that's just a
manufacturer.


Yes - they were about the only maker in the early days - for pro ones,
anyway.

--
*There's no place like www.home.com *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Arny Krueger November 9th 03 11:22 AM

gold plated connectors
 
"Dave Plowman" wrote in message

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
You've missed out one *vital* point, though, Arny. XLRs are too
large for the many connections needed on, say, an AV amp. You can
populate to approx twice the density with phonos.


A 5-pin XLR is the same size as a 2-pin XLR and would handle stereo
quite nicely with just one plug. You then break even on space and
pick up considerable convenience.


If you were using an XLR to replace phonos, then a 3 pin would do
fine. And since few domestic setups use balanced inputs,
compatibility shouldn't be a problem. 5 pin tend to be a lot more
expensive than 3. Don't think I've ever seen a 2 pin XLR.


Being a bit of a perfectionist, I thought of using two balanced lines and a
separate grounding wire, as well as the shield.




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