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The advantage of vinyl playback systems



 
 
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Old August 30th 06, 10:40 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default The advantage of vinyl playback systems


"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
APR wrote:
I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits
of
of CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD
player, but now have a problem.

I am having difficulty determining how to change the
what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types
of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in
your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points
that resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of
music.

Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am
not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.

Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.


Sadly, this will actually help with many CDs.




The trouble with people like Plowie is they don't seem to be able to hear
just how *blurry* most CDs are.....


Overbright with limited dynamic seems to be the most common complaint.




Look and listen closely - digital stuff all suffers that final sharpness, be
it sound or images....




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Old August 29th 06, 01:25 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
APR wrote:
I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of
of CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD
player, but now have a problem.


I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points
that resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of
music.


Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.



No wonder you're keeping your speakers such a secret.....




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Old August 29th 06, 01:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.



No wonder you're keeping your speakers such a secret.....


Most here have mentioned their system/amp/speakers at some time
or other. Some people have sent pics, and some are posted on
the site which Nick looks after. Valve amp fettlers even send
schematics! But Dave's set up remains a dark mystery. Why?


--
Iain
www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches



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Old August 29th 06, 02:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.



No wonder you're keeping your speakers such a secret.....


Most here have mentioned their system/amp/speakers at some time
or other. Some people have sent pics, and some are posted on
the site which Nick looks after. Valve amp fettlers even send
schematics! But Dave's set up remains a dark mystery. Why?




Because he discovered a while back that 'Camionnette Blanche' wasn't the
name of a posh French manufacturer after all.....!! :-)




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Old August 29th 06, 11:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Most here have mentioned their system/amp/speakers at some time
or other. Some people have sent pics, and some are posted on
the site which Nick looks after. Valve amp fettlers even send
schematics! But Dave's set up remains a dark mystery. Why?


Well, I'm listening to R4 DAB off the house balanced distribution system
via home assembled LS 3/5A and a Linsey Hood 75 watt amp while I type.
Would you like to know what the sound system is in each bathroom? Toilet?
Workshop? Kitchen? Guest bedrooms?

Not that it would give you much idea of what it sounds like as so much of
it is custom designed and built.

What do you have at home, Iain?

--
*I started out with nothing... and I still have most of it.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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Old August 30th 06, 06:35 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Most here have mentioned their system/amp/speakers at some time
or other. Some people have sent pics, and some are posted on
the site which Nick looks after. Valve amp fettlers even send
schematics! But Dave's set up remains a dark mystery. Why?


Well, I'm listening to R4 DAB off the house balanced distribution system
via home assembled LS 3/5A and a Linsey Hood 75 watt amp while I type.
Would you like to know what the sound system is in each bathroom? Toilet?
Workshop? Kitchen? Guest bedrooms?


You probably mean Lindsey Hood?

Not that it would give you much idea of what it sounds like as so much of
it is custom designed and built.

What do you have at home, Iain?


http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...omesystem.html

Over the years I have collected several sets of monitors, Kef K1
(large floor standers built for the BBC) , Tannoy Lancasters, and
JBL Century. plus B+W 800 series which I borrow from the firm
now and again. I can muster a Studer D730 CD player, plus two
prof Denon CD players, and a couple of others. Garrard 401, SME,
Shure V15/III. Leevers Rich E200 and lots of other interesting
bits and pieces.

In addition, I have a workshop listening area of 50 sq metres,
with a choice of amps, valve and SS including Radford STA 100,
a pair of Leak TL12s, and right at the other end of the spectrum
a Crown Macrotech 5002 VZ which can drive 2.5KW into
2 Ohms continuously, at THD 0.08% It's a concert amp,
which takes over where amps like the Krell leave off:-) Add
to this anything which might be on the bench at the time. The
workshop has two pairs of Tannoy Lancasters. It's a former
shooting range - a concrete bunker so I can enjoy Jethro
Tull at 0300 without annoying anyone:-)

With the exception of a pair or two of monitors which
occasionally find themselves in my tender loving care,
the firm's equipment is totally separate from my own.


*I started out with nothing... and I still have most of it.


Well, you do have a "Linsey" Hood :-)))

Cheers

Iain




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Old August 28th 06, 08:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default The advantage of vinyl playback systems


"APR" wrote in message
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I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of of
CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD player,
but now have a problem.

I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points that
resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of music.

Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player.




Yes - graphic equaliser and tone controls. After that, you're stuffed....


I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Geddaway.....





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Old August 29th 06, 03:02 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
APR
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Default The advantage of vinyl playback systems

A link of interest.....

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...CDformats2.php


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Old August 29th 06, 08:33 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Roy
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Default The advantage of vinyl playback systems

APR wrote:
A link of interest.....

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...CDformats2.php



I couldn't figure out what was being compared here (probably because I
couldn't find Parts 1-3 of LP v CD) but I think he's comparing a
commercial LP with a commercial CD. Given that these will have been
mastered differently, a direct comparison in this way tells you nothing.
Now if you were to take exactly the same source material, stick it on
CD and LP, then compare, I suspect you would see something different.

Re. noise floor. I agree that the brain does a great job of filtering
out the rubbish - vinyl whoosh, clicks and pops, not to mention
pre-Dolby tape hiss on AAD CDs. I'd rather it wasn't there in the first
place though.

Roy.
 




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