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Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition



 
 
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Old August 31st 06, 05:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trish
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition

Recorded (or thought I did) a friend's interview on a radio show. Streamed
on Real Player, recorded using CoolEdit2000.
Saved as mp3 (or so I thought).

I went today to burn it to a CD for her and all I have is loud white noise.
The file is the correct length and quite a large size, but is either not an
mp3 or has been corrupted somehow.

I'm wondering whether it's possible the information is all there but I'm
just not accessing it correctly.

I can copy the file and transfer it to a friend's PC which has Audition on
it if that would help.

I would be very grateful for any help anyone could give me.
I feel like a right lemon.


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Old August 31st 06, 10:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition


"Trish" wrote in message
...
Recorded (or thought I did) a friend's interview on a

radio show. Streamed
on Real Player, recorded using CoolEdit2000.
Saved as mp3 (or so I thought).

I went today to burn it to a CD for her and all I have is

loud white noise.
The file is the correct length and quite a large size, but

is either not an
mp3 or has been corrupted somehow.

I'm wondering whether it's possible the information is all

there but I'm
just not accessing it correctly.

I can copy the file and transfer it to a friend's PC which

has Audition on
it if that would help.

I would be very grateful for any help anyone could give

me.
I feel like a right lemon.


--
Trish

Dublin

Ah yes, I think I know. Open the file again in the original
recording program. Have a look at the properties and se
what format the sound is. e.g it may be 32 bit 96kHz. Now
go to file, save as, and save it as a 128kbpsMP3 or even 16
bit 44.1kHz wav. What it would appear that you have done is
you have it saved as an incompatible format, that's all. If
it's any consolation I have done this to myself as well ;-)

If worse comes to the worse and you cannot solve it you can
put it up on a download site and someone here will offer to
do it for you or if it is small enough, less than 5meg you
can email it. It really depends how sensitive the content
is ;-)

Regards TT


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Old September 2nd 06, 09:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rolo Tomassi
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition

TT wrote:
"Trish" wrote in message
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[snip]
If worse comes to the worse and you cannot solve it you can
put it up on a download site and someone here will offer to
do it for you ....



Yep - that'd be a good idea. However, if Cool Edit is trying to open it &
you've got full scale white noise, there mihgt be something wrong with the
header information. In Cool Edit Pro/Audition you can 'force' the program
to read any file as if it's PCM, a-law,u-law, whatever. You can try until
you get lucky! BUT if it WAS saved as mp3, you could be stuffed.

I've got a range of tools that might be able to help - can you send the
file?

Rolo

rolotomassi@bluey.........


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Old September 2nd 06, 09:55 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rolo Tomassi
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition

Trish wrote:
Recorded (or thought I did) a friend's interview on a radio show.
Streamed on Real Player, recorded using CoolEdit2000.
Saved as mp3 (or so I thought).

I went today to burn it to a CD for her and all I have is loud white
noise. The file is the correct length and quite a large size, but is
either not an mp3 or has been corrupted somehow.

I'm wondering whether it's possible the information is all there but
I'm just not accessing it correctly.

I can copy the file and transfer it to a friend's PC which has
Audition on it if that would help.

I would be very grateful for any help anyone could give me.
I feel like a right lemon.


--
Trish

Dublin


incidentally, how did you record the playing stream into Cool Edit? Did you
take a lead from the sound card output and back into the line input of your
PC or did you use some feature of CE that I didn't know about similar to
Total Recorder? From memory CEP ACTUALLY records in PCM and saves to MP3
(or whatever you chose) when you exit.

When Cool Edit Pro/Audition works with MP3s, they first decode them into PCM
files in the temp folder then when you've finished working, they re-encode
them to MP3.

Rolo


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Old September 3rd 06, 02:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trish
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition


"Rolo Tomassi" wrote in message
k...
snip

incidentally, how did you record the playing stream into Cool Edit? Did
you take a lead from the sound card output and back into the line input of
your PC or did you use some feature of CE that I didn't know about similar
to Total Recorder? From memory CEP ACTUALLY records in PCM and saves to
MP3 (or whatever you chose) when you exit.

When Cool Edit Pro/Audition works with MP3s, they first decode them into
PCM files in the temp folder then when you've finished working, they
re-encode them to MP3.


Hello. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

To record, I just let the radio programme play in Real Player and opened a
new file in CoolEdit and pressed record. When it came to the end of the
show, I stopped it and pressed 'save as', choosing mp3 and it saved.

This is probably not what you are supposed to do, but I have done it before
and since to record a radio show and it worked, but for some reason, the
files I promised to someone else have been messed up. It works perfectly for
unimportant stuff.

The radio show was almost two hours long, so I'm afraid it's a very large
file (over 1GB). I recorded the show for three days running, but only
checked the files when I came to transfer it to CD for her. I presumed that
there would be no problem, as there never has been before.

What is driving me mad is I KNOW the digital information to recreate the
sounds I heard are in my huge big files, but I can't get it out.

I have not changed the original files I saved to in any way, as any of my
attempts to do something have been done by working on a copy of the original
files.

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Trish

Dublin


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Old September 3rd 06, 09:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rolo Tomassi
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition

Trish wrote:
"Rolo Tomassi" wrote in message
k...
snip

incidentally, how did you record the playing stream into Cool Edit? Did
you take a lead from the sound card output and back into the
line input of your PC or did you use some feature of CE that I
didn't know about similar to Total Recorder? From memory CEP
ACTUALLY records in PCM and saves to MP3 (or whatever you chose)
when you exit. When Cool Edit Pro/Audition works with MP3s, they first
decode them
into PCM files in the temp folder then when you've finished working,
they re-encode them to MP3.


Hello. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

To record, I just let the radio programme play in Real Player and
opened a new file in CoolEdit and pressed record. When it came to the
end of the show, I stopped it and pressed 'save as', choosing mp3 and
it saved.
This is probably not what you are supposed to do, but I have done it
before and since to record a radio show and it worked, but for some
reason, the files I promised to someone else have been messed up. It
works perfectly for unimportant stuff.

The radio show was almost two hours long, so I'm afraid it's a very
large file (over 1GB). I recorded the show for three days running,
but only checked the files when I came to transfer it to CD for her.
I presumed that there would be no problem, as there never has been
before.
What is driving me mad is I KNOW the digital information to recreate
the sounds I heard are in my huge big files, but I can't get it out.

I have not changed the original files I saved to in any way, as any
of my attempts to do something have been done by working on a copy of
the original files.

--
Trish

Dublin


Hmm,

I'm surprised that CoolEdit allowed you to make successful recordings in the
past - perhaps it uses the Windows sound manager to route audio to it's
inputs and you had/have the record part of your soundcard set to look at the
stereo mix - that'd work.

This might not help but could you higlight the first 20 seconds of your
file, copy it, create a new file, past the data in and save as Raw PCM -
then you might have something email-able.

Problem is, finding a way to play that 30 seconds might not solve your 2
hours problem but it'd be a start.

Rolo


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Old September 4th 06, 07:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trish
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition


"Rolo Tomassi" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

This might not help but could you higlight the first 20 seconds of your
file, copy it, create a new file, past the data in and save as Raw PCM -
then you might have something email-able.

Problem is, finding a way to play that 30 seconds might not solve your 2
hours problem but it'd be a start.


Thanks.
I've sent you that file...imaginatively titled first30secs.

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Trish

Dublin


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Old September 4th 06, 07:37 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rolo Tomassi
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Default Help needed please - Cool Edit/Adobe Audition

Trish wrote:
"Rolo Tomassi" wrote in message
. uk...
snip

This might not help but could you higlight the first 20 seconds of
your file, copy it, create a new file, past the data in and save as
Raw PCM - then you might have something email-able.

Problem is, finding a way to play that 30 seconds might not solve
your 2 hours problem but it'd be a start.


Thanks.
I've sent you that file...imaginatively titled first30secs.

--
Trish

Dublin


Problem sorted and file on it's way back to you.

For the rest of the group - the file was named with an mp3 extension but was
actually Linear PCM 44.1KHz, 16bit and the 16bit Motorola PCM setting
worked - all others returned white noise like the OP experienced.

Adobe Audition struggled until I noticed that CEP had defaulted to the
Motorola setting whereas Audition had defaulted to the Intel one which
DIDN'T work.

Rolo


 




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