On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:07:31 +0100, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:


I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£,
what's your advice?

If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£,
they would be welcome.


PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before
assuming more money will buy better sound.

I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough.
And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than
enough.
And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d

I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money
into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between
different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I
think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the
coax.
On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD
players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives
you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if
you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits
and modules. See below


#DAC kits
http://www.sound4sale.com/ Link DAC
http://www.deregle.co.uk/pages/24f.htm was Link DAC

http://diyparadise.com/dacs.html Yeo's DAC kit
http://diyparadise.com/mar06/gg.html Yeo's tube stage
http://www.octave-electronics.com/Kits/dac.shtml Etude 1716 DAC -
CS8414+PCM1716 £87
http://www.octave-electronics.com/Star/07dac.shtml Etude review
http://members.chello.nl/~m.heijlige...tml/dactop.htm Tent Labs DAC
CS8412+PCM63
http://www.kandkaudio.com/digitalaudio.html K and K RAKK DAC
CS8416+PCM1794 $249
www.hagtech.com/chime.html Hagtech Chime DAC $599 halfkit
http://www.dddac.de/ Doede Douma. DDDAC2000 NOS CS8412+1543 89€
http://www.steinmusic.de/audiofino/komp-weitere.html NONOS DAC 698€
http://www.audionotekits.com/ Audio Note DAC 1.1 and 2.1, Zero DAC
http://www.scott-nixon.com/dac.htm Scott Nixon Tubedac $100 to $200
http://www.audiosector.com/ TDA1543 DAC Peter Daniel
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1112327211
Schematic
http://www.audiocraftersguild.com/Xdac/dacprice.htm Audiocrafters
Guild X-DAC 3.0 CS8412, CS4328, AD1891 $547
www.vdac.co.uk Chris Found DAC kits UK, latest is VDAC-4 £800
http://diyaudiocraft.com/ Ultimate Twin DAC 8414+1541A (DIY Audio
tube-lover)
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...threadid=55808
Ultimate Twin thread by Tube_Lover
http://eshop.diyclub.biz/product_inf...413e5fa3c7e0fd
DAC AH CS8414 as digital input reciver, 8 pcs of TDA1543 in parallel
$135
http://us.hifidiy.net/index.asp TDA 1543 kit ebay $88 4 Philips
TDA1543 IC chips.
Digital receiver using CS8148 and Output OP Amp using OPA604AP.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philips-TDA154...QQcmdZViewItem

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/AudioDIYLab 24bit, 192kHz Digital receiver :
CS8414, DAC chip : PCM1739 $139.99
http://www.curcioaudio.com/cddes_3.htm Curcio CD12V (1541)
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/tnt1541_e.html TNT tda1541 DAC Giorgio
Pozzoli 2003 uses 8412
http://www.milossaluciano.com/Reinas...alessandro.htm Digital
Renaissance Tube, Taiwan 1543
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philips-TDA154...QQcmdZViewItem
$88 1543 DAC

"Andy Evans" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than
enough.
And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d

I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money
into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between
different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I
think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the
coax.
On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD
players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives
you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if
you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits
and modules. See below




Hey Andy - thanks for that list!

I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and
suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a
'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start
trawling/surfing...??

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:26:36 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Andy Evans" wrote in message
roups.com...
I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than
enough.
And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d

I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money
into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between
different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I
think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the
coax.
On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD
players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives
you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if
you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits
and modules. See below




Hey Andy - thanks for that list!

I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and
suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a
'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start
trawling/surfing...??


Given it a bit of thought, and you ought to be able to do that with
about thirty thousand ECC83s. And I wonder if Drax B is about to
appear on Ebay - none of the locals seem to want it. You will need it,
though.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:26:36 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:



I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and
suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a
'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start
trawling/surfing...??


Given it a bit of thought, and you ought to be able to do that with
about thirty thousand ECC83s. And I wonder if Drax B is about to
appear on Ebay - none of the locals seem to want it. You will need it,
though.



No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-)

Keith G wrote:

No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-)

What are you farming wind for? If you just stick a big scoop in the air, you
can get loads of it for free as it passes by...


--
Wally
www.wally.myby.co.uk
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:50:44 +0100, "Wally" wrote:

Keith G wrote:

No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-)

What are you farming wind for? If you just stick a big scoop in the air, you
can get loads of it for free as it passes by...

But the farmed stuff is available all the time - you have to wait for
the wild kind to blow past.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Keith G wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than
enough.
And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d

I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money
into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between
different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I
think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the
coax.
On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD
players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives
you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if
you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits
and modules. See below




Hey Andy - thanks for that list!

I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and
suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a
'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start
trawling/surfing...??




Have a look/ask on the WD forum, there are several that have built their
own, or used cheap suppliers.

--
Nick

"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than
enough.
And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d

I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money
into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between
different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I
think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the
coax.
On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD
players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives
you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if
you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits
and modules. See below




Hey Andy - thanks for that list!

I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately
and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What
about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I
start trawling/surfing...??




Have a look/ask on the WD forum, there are several that have built their
own, or used cheap suppliers.



Might well do - still have have trouble blundering about on that forum
tho'.....

Keith G wrote:

I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and
suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a
'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start
trawling/surfing...??

You want a complete valve DAC? It would be the size of a house.
Or do you want one with thousands of transistors and a valve as an output
buffer to restore the fidelity?

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.