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Old September 7th 06, 08:16 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arnold
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Eiron wrote:

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military
market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon.
1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer
1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator
1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development
1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range
1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager
1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz



Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details
if you want to impress us with his knowledge.


Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google
his credentials yourself.

From another article I posted yesterday, his 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature
CD player' ranks at number 8.

"In May 2006, Hi-Fi Choice's reviewers sat round an email client program
and between them came up with the 50 most important hi-fi components
ever sold in the UK. The results were published in an award-winning
supplement Hi-Fi that Rocked the World. If you missed it, here's the top
ten:

1. Linn Sondek LP12 turntable
2. NAD 3020 integrated amplifier
3. Quad Electrostatic loudspeaker
4. Rega Planar 3 turntable
5. Pioneer A400 integrated amplifier
6. B&W Nautilus 801 loudspeaker
7. BBC LS3/5a loudspeaker
8. Marantz CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player
9. Garrard 301 turntable
10. Wharfedale Diamond loudspeaker"


If I recall correctly, our school system introduced me to Ohm's Law in
grade 8 or 9. Didn't yours? Just kidding - but I get your drift.
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Old September 7th 06, 01:42 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Arnold" wrote in message

Eiron wrote:

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company
that was military market representative for Sony,
Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a
fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical
Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in
speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product
development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed
Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 •
Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz



Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.


Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.


I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.


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Old September 7th 06, 02:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Arnold" wrote in message

Eiron wrote:

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA'S CAREER
1968 . Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s . Left Pioneer and worked for the company
that was military market representative for Sony,
Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 . Set up business as a
fashion photographer 1978 . Joined Marantz as Technical
Coordinator 1979 . Took additional job working in
speaker development 1980 . Became involved in product
development for total Marantz range 1986 . Appointed
Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 .
Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz


Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.


Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.


I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.



The 'pony tail' doesn't help......




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Old September 8th 06, 08:04 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arnold
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Keith G wrote:

Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.

Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.


I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.


The 'pony tail' doesn't help......


Creative/artistic people are often eccentric and weird looking. It
doesn't bother me.
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Old September 8th 06, 08:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arnold
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Arnold" wrote in message


Eiron wrote:


Arnold wrote:


KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company
that was military market representative for Sony,
Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a
fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical
Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in
speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product
development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed
Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 •
Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz


Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.


Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.



I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.


The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational
scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who
has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his
philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components.

I enjoy it to take a glimpse into the minds of the people who are
creating today's equipment. It is similar to reading about your
favourite artist and hearing the story behind his/her music.

To answer your question - No. I will actually print it out and keep it
on file for future reference.
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Old September 8th 06, 09:19 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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Arnold wrote:

The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational
scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who
has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his
philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components.


I wonder what his philosophy was when designing my DVD player?
It misses the first half-second or so when playing CDs.
He deserves hara-kiri for letting something lke that out of the factory

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.
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Old September 8th 06, 02:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Eiron" wrote in message
...
Arnold wrote:

The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational
scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who
has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his
philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components.


I wonder what his philosophy was when designing my DVD player?
It misses the first half-second or so when playing CDs.
He deserves hara-kiri for letting something lke that out of the factory




The much vaunted 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player' I had (and flogged on
eBay a few weeks back) glitched at the start of every CDR I put in it,
didn't play CDRWs, didn't play MP3s and and didn't beat an Argos cheepie
I've still got and which does all of that without the *glitching*.....

Here they both are in 'comparison mode' - I A/B'd these (time and level
matched) 20,000,000 times and got a number of people to hear them to be
absolutely *certain* that a 70 quid 'toy CDP' was as good as the so-called
'guru gear'.....

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/CDPs.JPG

*No-one* could tell them apart - I was able to slip from one to the other on
the Argos amp's remote.

And the same on this Denon amp's remote:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Denon.jpg


As I did when I A/B compared FM and DAB on another occasion recently:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Tuners.jpg


Next comparison (starts in 10 minutes) will be my Lowther EX3s in both the
Jericho and Fidelio cabinets - that'll be tough (no quick swap) and will
take weeks...

(One or two of the 'old hand' wiseacres here think I just read the ****ing
cereal packets and 'go with the flow'.....!! ;-)



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Old September 8th 06, 03:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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Keith G wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

Arnold wrote:


The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational
scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who
has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his
philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components.


I wonder what his philosophy was when designing my DVD player?
It misses the first half-second or so when playing CDs.
He deserves hara-kiri for letting something lke that out of the factory


The much vaunted 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player' I had (and flogged on
eBay a few weeks back) glitched at the start of every CDR I put in it,
didn't play CDRWs, didn't play MP3s and and didn't beat an Argos cheepie
I've still got and which does all of that without the *glitching*.....

Here they both are in 'comparison mode' - I A/B'd these (time and level
matched) 20,000,000 times and got a number of people to hear them to be
absolutely *certain* that a 70 quid 'toy CDP' was as good as the so-called
'guru gear'.....

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/CDPs.JPG

*No-one* could tell them apart - I was able to slip from one to the other on
the Argos amp's remote.


Obviously you couldn't tell them apart. You weren't using a two-thousand quid
amp and directional gold-plated oxygen-free silver interconects.

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.
 




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