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CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Hi all,
I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. Thanks in advance. ********************************** Luís Freitas E-mail: Portugal (When replying directly to my e-mail, please remove NOSPAM from the e-mail address) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before assuming more money will buy better sound. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:07:31 +0100, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before assuming more money will buy better sound. I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough. And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
I've listened to several models, which I didn't mention so you could freely
give your opinion instead of comment my choices. If you think there's a lot o 100£ CD players which will sound please let me know. Thanks. ********************************** Luís Freitas E-mail: Portugal (When replying directly to my e-mail, please remove NOSPAM from the e-mail address) "Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message ... I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before assuming more money will buy better sound. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
On 2006-09-03, Luis Freitas wrote:
Hi all, I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. Have you tried the Cambridge Audio 640C or the MkII version? Lordy PS. Some usenet email harvesters do look in the body of the message. (not a lot but some).. Luís Freitas E-mail: Portugal (When replying directly to my e-mail, please remove NOSPAM from the e-mail address) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Yes I've listened to the 640C, not the MkII version. It's one of my budget
choices. Thanks. ********************************** Luís Freitas E-mail: freitasluisNOSPAM@hotmailDOTcom Portugal (Quando fizer reply, por favor remover NOSPAM e substituir DOT por um "." no endereço e-mail) (When replying directly to my e-mail, please remove NOSPAM and replace DOT with a "." in the e-mail address) "lordy" wrote in message ... On 2006-09-03, Luis Freitas wrote: Hi all, I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. Have you tried the Cambridge Audio 640C or the MkII version? Lordy PS. Some usenet email harvesters do look in the body of the message. (not a lot but some).. Luís Freitas E-mail: Portugal (When replying directly to my e-mail, please remove NOSPAM from the address) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if
sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough. And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the coax. On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits and modules. See below #DAC kits http://www.sound4sale.com/ Link DAC http://www.deregle.co.uk/pages/24f.htm was Link DAC http://diyparadise.com/dacs.html Yeo's DAC kit http://diyparadise.com/mar06/gg.html Yeo's tube stage http://www.octave-electronics.com/Kits/dac.shtml Etude 1716 DAC - CS8414+PCM1716 £87 http://www.octave-electronics.com/Star/07dac.shtml Etude review http://members.chello.nl/~m.heijlige...tml/dactop.htm Tent Labs DAC CS8412+PCM63 http://www.kandkaudio.com/digitalaudio.html K and K RAKK DAC CS8416+PCM1794 $249 www.hagtech.com/chime.html Hagtech Chime DAC $599 halfkit http://www.dddac.de/ Doede Douma. DDDAC2000 NOS CS8412+1543 89€ http://www.steinmusic.de/audiofino/komp-weitere.html NONOS DAC 698€ http://www.audionotekits.com/ Audio Note DAC 1.1 and 2.1, Zero DAC http://www.scott-nixon.com/dac.htm Scott Nixon Tubedac $100 to $200 http://www.audiosector.com/ TDA1543 DAC Peter Daniel http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1112327211 Schematic http://www.audiocraftersguild.com/Xdac/dacprice.htm Audiocrafters Guild X-DAC 3.0 CS8412, CS4328, AD1891 $547 www.vdac.co.uk Chris Found DAC kits UK, latest is VDAC-4 £800 http://diyaudiocraft.com/ Ultimate Twin DAC 8414+1541A (DIY Audio tube-lover) http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...threadid=55808 Ultimate Twin thread by Tube_Lover http://eshop.diyclub.biz/product_inf...413e5fa3c7e0fd DAC AH CS8414 as digital input reciver, 8 pcs of TDA1543 in parallel $135 http://us.hifidiy.net/index.asp TDA 1543 kit ebay $88 4 Philips TDA1543 IC chips. Digital receiver using CS8148 and Output OP Amp using OPA604AP. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philips-TDA154...QQcmdZViewItem http://stores.ebay.co.uk/AudioDIYLab 24bit, 192kHz Digital receiver : CS8414, DAC chip : PCM1739 $139.99 http://www.curcioaudio.com/cddes_3.htm Curcio CD12V (1541) http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/tnt1541_e.html TNT tda1541 DAC Giorgio Pozzoli 2003 uses 8412 http://www.milossaluciano.com/Reinas...alessandro.htm Digital Renaissance Tube, Taiwan 1543 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philips-TDA154...QQcmdZViewItem $88 1543 DAC |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Andy Evans" wrote in message oups.com... I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough. And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the coax. On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits and modules. See below Hey Andy - thanks for that list! I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:26:36 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Andy Evans" wrote in message roups.com... I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough. And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the coax. On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits and modules. See below Hey Andy - thanks for that list! I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? Given it a bit of thought, and you ought to be able to do that with about thirty thousand ECC83s. And I wonder if Drax B is about to appear on Ebay - none of the locals seem to want it. You will need it, though. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Keith G wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message oups.com... I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough. And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the coax. On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits and modules. See below Hey Andy - thanks for that list! I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? Have a look/ask on the WD forum, there are several that have built their own, or used cheap suppliers. -- Nick |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Keith G wrote:
I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? You want a complete valve DAC? It would be the size of a house. Or do you want one with thousands of transistors and a valve as an output buffer to restore the fidelity? -- Eiron No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind,
before I start trawling/surfing...?? I've discussed this with designer Chris Found - I use his latest DAC but his earlier one is damn good too. His latest is over £500, and I don't think he has any more of the earlier boards, though. He doesn't much like the single bit DACs - he likes the Crystal chipsets CS4396, 97 and 98. I've heard others say the same - I think Arny does (I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong). So I guess when on ebay include those processor numbers in the search criteria. I'm waiting for a client, so have to be brief. I did look at this in detail, so may come back later. Andy |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Don't go the DVD route. If you want pure sound quality, stick to audio
circuitry only. Rather consider a SACD player which will play CD's as well. In that case, you will have to start buying SACD disks of course! Luis Freitas wrote: Hi all, I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. Thanks in advance. ********************************** Luís Freitas E-mail: Portugal (When replying directly to my e-mail, please remove NOSPAM from the e-mail address) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Arnold" wrote in message ... Don't go the DVD route. If you want pure sound quality, stick to audio circuitry only. ??? Rather consider a SACD player which will play CD's as well. In that case, you will have to start buying SACD disks of course! Mind you don't get one that *doesn't* play CDRs.... |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:26:36 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? Given it a bit of thought, and you ought to be able to do that with about thirty thousand ECC83s. And I wonder if Drax B is about to appear on Ebay - none of the locals seem to want it. You will need it, though. No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Andy Evans" wrote in message ups.com... What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? I've discussed this with designer Chris Found - I use his latest DAC but his earlier one is damn good too. His latest is over £500, and I don't think he has any more of the earlier boards, though. He doesn't much like the single bit DACs - he likes the Crystal chipsets CS4396, 97 and 98. I've heard others say the same - I think Arny does (I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong). So I guess when on ebay include those processor numbers in the search criteria. I'm waiting for a client, so have to be brief. I did look at this in detail, so may come back later. Andy OK. I'm not sure if I want a 'DAC For All Time' or just summat simple and cheap for my Tommy - 500 spons is a bit posh for 'TV sound'...!! |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Nick Gorham" wrote in message ... Keith G wrote: "Andy Evans" wrote in message oups.com... I think maybe you are still being a bit cash-happy at that price if sound quality is the criterion. £50 to £70 should be more than enough. And it ought to handle DVDs too at that price. d I agree with Don - cheap transport. But what I'd do is put the money into a seperate DAC. I can't hear much if any difference between different CD and DVD players as transports - I'm using a DVD player. I think on this player the optical output is a twinge better than the coax. On the other hand I and others can hear differences between complete CD players, which leads me to believe that it's the better DAC that gives you the better sound. There are some interesting DAC boards on ebay if you fancy putting one together. I compiled a list of available DAC kits and modules. See below Hey Andy - thanks for that list! I've been getting clobbered on eBay on a string of DAC auctions lately and suddenly had the thought to build summat rather than buy it!! What about a 'valve' DAC kit - anything come immediately to mind, before I start trawling/surfing...?? Have a look/ask on the WD forum, there are several that have built their own, or used cheap suppliers. Might well do - still have have trouble blundering about on that forum tho'..... |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Keith G wrote:
"Arnold" wrote in message ... Don't go the DVD route. If you want pure sound quality, stick to audio circuitry only. ??? Let me prove my point by quoting Marantz’s Ken Ishiwata from an interview published by Hi-Fi News. http://www.hifinews.co.uk/content/interview.html "HFN: What is your feeling on surround-sound systems? Are people buying music to hear on surround-sound systems? KI: ‘The majority of people buying surround-sound is for home cinema, but people buying home cinema receivers doesn’t always mean that they buy home cinema speaker kits. Many people only end up with one pair especially due to space and wiring – all those things are troublesome for the consumer. How often do the majority of people watch films? They listen to more music out of such a system than watching films. That’s also the reason that in the last 18 months many people came back to two-channel. Maybe you heard about it – the shift of product sales from multi-channel to, gradually, two-channel is happening. So you’ve started to see that the two-channel market is much stronger now, which is very encouraging I have to say. Another point is because of the fact that all of the American standard holders, like Dolby/DTS, always come up something new all the time (which is not necessary) those people are making money out of hardware companies so we have to have all those logos on receivers and each logo represents how much we are paying (laughs). The problem is because of those things we have to make integrated circuits – they caused all those different standards. Degrading the quality of the music is obvious. So, when you hear just a simple, straightforward two-channel CD player and amp combination, which is very low priced, compared to a mid-priced home cinema system playing music there is no comparison. So, that’s what is happening. I think people have started to realise what they had before, so they are coming back’." "The problem is because of those things we have to make integrated circuits – they caused all those different standards. Degrading the quality of the music is obvious." So you will ask who is Ken Ishiwata? KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER 1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Rather consider a SACD player which will play CD's as well. In that case, you will have to start buying SACD disks of course! Mind you don't get one that *doesn't* play CDRs.... Yes but you need the new format disks to get the full benefit. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Arnold" wrote in message ... Keith G wrote: "Arnold" wrote in message ... Don't go the DVD route. If you want pure sound quality, stick to audio circuitry only. ??? Let me prove my point by quoting Marantz’s Ken Ishiwata from an interview published by Hi-Fi News. http://www.hifinews.co.uk/content/interview.html "HFN: What is your feeling on surround-sound systems? Are people buying music to hear on surround-sound systems? KI: ‘The majority of people buying surround-sound is for home cinema, but people buying home cinema receivers doesn’t always mean that they buy home cinema speaker kits. Many people only end up with one pair especially due to space and wiring – all those things are troublesome for the consumer. How often do the majority of people watch films? They listen to more music out of such a system than watching films. That’s also the reason that in the last 18 months many people came back to two-channel. Maybe you heard about it – the shift of product sales from multi-channel to, gradually, two-channel is happening. So you’ve started to see that the two-channel market is much stronger now, which is very encouraging I have to say. Another point is because of the fact that all of the American standard holders, like Dolby/DTS, always come up something new all the time (which is not necessary) those people are making money out of hardware companies so we have to have all those logos on receivers and each logo represents how much we are paying (laughs). The problem is because of those things we have to make integrated circuits – they caused all those different standards. Degrading the quality of the music is obvious. So, when you hear just a simple, straightforward two-channel CD player and amp combination, which is very low priced, compared to a mid-priced home cinema system playing music there is no comparison. So, that’s what is happening. I think people have started to realise what they had before, so they are coming back’." "The problem is because of those things we have to make integrated circuits – they caused all those different standards. Degrading the quality of the music is obvious." So you will ask who is Ken Ishiwata? KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER 1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Rather consider a SACD player which will play CD's as well. In that case, you will have to start buying SACD disks of course! Mind you don't get one that *doesn't* play CDRs.... Yes but you need the new format disks to get the full benefit. This is a *wind-up* - right...??? :-) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Keith G wrote:
This is a *wind-up* - right...??? :-) What do you mean by "wind-up"? |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in
message I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before assuming more money will buy better sound. Agreed. If someone wants to drop big bucks (relatively speaking), try whatever Pioneer is selling this week as a universal (CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) player. I think the magic model number is up around DV-588 by now. And forget the twaddle about a need for using an external DAC. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before assuming more money will buy better sound. Agreed. Also agreed, then go and conduct an honest comparison with modern players costing nearer 10% of that price.... If someone wants to drop big bucks (relatively speaking), try whatever Pioneer is selling this week as a universal (CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) player. I think the magic model number is up around DV-588 by now. The only problem with using DVDPs for CD is the long 'recognition times' when you pop a disk in some of them - my otherwise perfectly OK Pioneer DV-575A is a slug in that department... |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Arny Krueger wrote: "Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to spend more than 500£, what's your advice? If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price before assuming more money will buy better sound. Agreed. If someone wants to drop big bucks (relatively speaking), try whatever Pioneer is selling this week as a universal (CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) player. I think the magic model number is up around DV-588 by now. $165 here http://store.buycodefreedvd.com/pidvddvdvdir.html for a region free one or $135 for region 1. Graham |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Arnold wrote:
KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER 1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details if you want to impress us with his knowledge. -- Eiron No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
On 2006-09-06, Keith G wrote:
The only problem with using DVDPs for CD is the long 'recognition times' when you pop a disk in some of them - my otherwise perfectly OK Pioneer DV-575A is a slug in that department... Also switching it on is a 'put the kettle on' event ... Lordy |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Eiron wrote:
Arnold wrote: KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER 1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details if you want to impress us with his knowledge. Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google his credentials yourself. From another article I posted yesterday, his 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player' ranks at number 8. "In May 2006, Hi-Fi Choice's reviewers sat round an email client program and between them came up with the 50 most important hi-fi components ever sold in the UK. The results were published in an award-winning supplement Hi-Fi that Rocked the World. If you missed it, here's the top ten: 1. Linn Sondek LP12 turntable 2. NAD 3020 integrated amplifier 3. Quad Electrostatic loudspeaker 4. Rega Planar 3 turntable 5. Pioneer A400 integrated amplifier 6. B&W Nautilus 801 loudspeaker 7. BBC LS3/5a loudspeaker 8. Marantz CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player 9. Garrard 301 turntable 10. Wharfedale Diamond loudspeaker" If I recall correctly, our school system introduced me to Ohm's Law in grade 8 or 9. Didn't yours? Just kidding - but I get your drift. |
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"lordy" wrote in message
On 2006-09-06, Keith G wrote: The only problem with using DVDPs for CD is the long 'recognition times' when you pop a disk in some of them - my otherwise perfectly OK Pioneer DV-575A is a slug in that department... Also switching it on is a 'put the kettle on' event ... Points well taken. Of course given that most modern players put themselves to sleep when not actually in use, why bother turning it off? But that does not address the long disc recognition times. There's a lot of options and lot of checking that needs to be done if a player wants to be truely universal. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Arnold" wrote in message
Eiron wrote: Arnold wrote: KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER 1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details if you want to impress us with his knowledge. Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google his credentials yourself. I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Arnold" wrote in message Eiron wrote: Arnold wrote: KEN ISHIWATA'S CAREER 1968 . Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s . Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 . Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 . Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 . Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 . Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 . Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 . Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details if you want to impress us with his knowledge. Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google his credentials yourself. I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet. The 'pony tail' doesn't help...... |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Arnold" wrote in message Eiron wrote: Arnold wrote: KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER 1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details if you want to impress us with his knowledge. Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google his credentials yourself. I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet. The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components. I enjoy it to take a glimpse into the minds of the people who are creating today's equipment. It is similar to reading about your favourite artist and hearing the story behind his/her music. To answer your question - No. I will actually print it out and keep it on file for future reference. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
Keith G wrote:
Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details if you want to impress us with his knowledge. Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google his credentials yourself. I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet. The 'pony tail' doesn't help...... Creative/artistic people are often eccentric and weird looking. It doesn't bother me. |
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Arnold wrote:
The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components. I wonder what his philosophy was when designing my DVD player? It misses the first half-second or so when playing CDs. He deserves hara-kiri for letting something lke that out of the factory -- Eiron No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
"Eiron" wrote in message ... Arnold wrote: The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components. I wonder what his philosophy was when designing my DVD player? It misses the first half-second or so when playing CDs. He deserves hara-kiri for letting something lke that out of the factory The much vaunted 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player' I had (and flogged on eBay a few weeks back) glitched at the start of every CDR I put in it, didn't play CDRWs, didn't play MP3s and and didn't beat an Argos cheepie I've still got and which does all of that without the *glitching*..... Here they both are in 'comparison mode' - I A/B'd these (time and level matched) 20,000,000 times and got a number of people to hear them to be absolutely *certain* that a 70 quid 'toy CDP' was as good as the so-called 'guru gear'..... http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/CDPs.JPG *No-one* could tell them apart - I was able to slip from one to the other on the Argos amp's remote. And the same on this Denon amp's remote: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Denon.jpg As I did when I A/B compared FM and DAB on another occasion recently: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Tuners.jpg Next comparison (starts in 10 minutes) will be my Lowther EX3s in both the Jericho and Fidelio cabinets - that'll be tough (no quick swap) and will take weeks... (One or two of the 'old hand' wiseacres here think I just read the ****ing cereal packets and 'go with the flow'.....!! ;-) |
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Keith G wrote:
"Eiron" wrote in message ... Arnold wrote: The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components. I wonder what his philosophy was when designing my DVD player? It misses the first half-second or so when playing CDs. He deserves hara-kiri for letting something lke that out of the factory The much vaunted 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player' I had (and flogged on eBay a few weeks back) glitched at the start of every CDR I put in it, didn't play CDRWs, didn't play MP3s and and didn't beat an Argos cheepie I've still got and which does all of that without the *glitching*..... Here they both are in 'comparison mode' - I A/B'd these (time and level matched) 20,000,000 times and got a number of people to hear them to be absolutely *certain* that a 70 quid 'toy CDP' was as good as the so-called 'guru gear'..... http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/CDPs.JPG *No-one* could tell them apart - I was able to slip from one to the other on the Argos amp's remote. Obviously you couldn't tell them apart. You weren't using a two-thousand quid amp and directional gold-plated oxygen-free silver interconects. -- Eiron No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
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Keith G wrote:
No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-) What are you farming wind for? If you just stick a big scoop in the air, you can get loads of it for free as it passes by... -- Wally www.wally.myby.co.uk If it ain't broke, fix it until it is. |
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:50:44 +0100, "Wally" wrote:
Keith G wrote: No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-) What are you farming wind for? If you just stick a big scoop in the air, you can get loads of it for free as it passes by... But the farmed stuff is available all the time - you have to wait for the wild kind to blow past. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:50:44 +0100, "Wally" wrote: Keith G wrote: No, I could run it from a wind farm - see other post....!! ;-) What are you farming wind for? If you just stick a big scoop in the air, you can get loads of it for free as it passes by... But the farmed stuff is available all the time - you have to wait for the wild kind to blow past. Don't know about trying to reap the *wild* wind - that's already been done to great effect and I'm not so sure about the 'restless' variety either: http://www.antithetical.org/restlesswind/music.html (Should call themselves the 'Curate's Egg....) |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:16:52 GMT, lordy wrote:
If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. Have you tried the Cambridge Audio 640C or the MkII version? Rega Apollo - see review http://www.stereophile.com/cdplayers/606rega/ Retails at 500 quid. I;ve not heard it but a freind who is a Rega dealer says its a winner. |
CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
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CD Player up to 500£ - Opinions
wrote in message ... On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:16:52 GMT, lordy wrote: If there are some good options with price tag significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome. Have you tried the Cambridge Audio 640C or the MkII version? Rega Apollo - see review http://www.stereophile.com/cdplayers/606rega/ Retails at 500 quid. I;ve not heard it but a freind who is a Rega dealer says its a winner. What tripe - cue Arny to come galloping up and rant about trading in myth and audio legend..... Er, except that he won't - he's got 'selective vision' problems..... (Not to mention selective hearing problems also!! :-) |
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