In article ,
Keith G wrote:
What I am looking forward to is hearing from Iain who has taken the
trouble to travel some considerable distance this weekend to hear
Lowthers for himself. (Note the different approach...) It is going to
be interesting to see what his reaction to them is - they are not
everybody's cuppa tea, *obviously*....

Exactly. You have a preference for what can only be described as extremely
coloured sound reproduction. That's your prerogative, but don't expect
others to blindly agree - apart from your knitting circle, obviously.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Wally" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

I had a pair of Broadswords (I *really* have tried a great number of
speakers) - they had Dynaudio drivers, sounded very good (for the
type) and needed a *lot* of stoking....

I think he said they have quite low sensitivity.



85 db I believe....



Way beyond Cyrus' remit....

I tend to agree if is loud is required. Those Behringer A500 studio amps
would be interesting with Broadswords (160wpc into 8 ohms).


Yes, I imagine they would.

My memory of the Broadswords is of excellent 'furniture' build quality and
decent size - big enough to dispel those nagging doubts that never go away
when you are trying to use small speakers as 'mains', but working best when
they were strapped to a fairly beefy amp...??

(That was back in my dark days, when I was up at the wrong end of the seesaw
and blowing drivers, trying to *hear* what was going on in the mix - all
very different now...!! ;-)

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Why? Discussing Lowthers with you would be like trying to compare the
various merits of, say, Giotto, Duccio and Cimabue with a chav...


No, that won't do - even for usenet ******** - try this instead:

Discussing Lowthers with you would be like trying to discuss a
comparison between the various merits of, say, Giotto, Duccio and
Cimabue with a chav...

(Is that any better..??)

No. Unless you think it anything to do with speaker design.

Besides, even a chav can Goggle, can't they Keith?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Why? Discussing Lowthers with you would be like trying to compare the
various merits of, say, Giotto, Duccio and Cimabue with a chav...


No, that won't do - even for usenet ******** - try this instead:

Discussing Lowthers with you would be like trying to discuss a
comparison between the various merits of, say, Giotto, Duccio and
Cimabue with a chav...

(Is that any better..??)

No. Unless you think it anything to do with speaker design.

Besides, even a chav can Goggle, can't they Keith?


I suspect you have (and learned something new and interesting?) - all I have
'Goggled' this morning is Ruarks to confirm the sensitivity figure of the
Broadswords for Wally.

(You really do need to work harder at making yourself not look like a total
tit, Plowie....)

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
What I am looking forward to is hearing from Iain who has taken the
trouble to travel some considerable distance this weekend to hear
Lowthers for himself. (Note the different approach...) It is going to
be interesting to see what his reaction to them is - they are not
everybody's cuppa tea, *obviously*....

Exactly. You have a preference for what can only be described as extremely
coloured sound reproduction.


I have never sais anything *other* than they would not be everybody's cuppa
tea....???


That's your prerogative, but don't expect
others to blindly agree


I have never sais anything *other* than they would not be everybody's cuppa
tea....???


- apart from your knitting circle, obviously.


Aw, you sound like someone who wants *desperately* to be a member of
someone's knitting circle - you can come and hear my Lowthers if you can be
bothered to trundle up the A1 - we're only 2 right turns (and 2-3 minutes)
off it....

;-)

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Eeyore wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
But you obviously don't like to hear the top and bottom octaves.

Plowie, trust me - you have *no* idea......

Oh but I have. Remind us of how much you like single driver horns...

You mean ear trumpets ?

Probably. Can't imagine Keith wanting digital hearing aids. Old is always
better than new.



Tell me when this is ever *not* the case - think hard before you reply....

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article .com,
Andy Evans wrote:
Someone was in touch with him recently and he was OK.
I guess he just found real life more interesting....

So one flew over the cuckoo's nest.

I didn't think it correct to print Stewart's reasons without his
permission, and didn't seek that permission since if he wanted them known
he could have posted them.



I've no idea why Pinky's done a runner - shame really, he was starting to
calm down and mellow out, IIRC...??

wrote in message
oups.com...

Eeyore wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote

Arny Krueger wrote:

As a practical matter a "good sounding" recording can be obtained
from a
live performance in a "bad sounding" room. Close-micing is used to
minimize
reverb from the room. The impulse response of a good-sounding room,
perhaps
with similar dimensions, is used to produce a convincing recording
of a
"live event" that never happened.

But would it sound 'better' to most ppl ?

IME, yes.

Exactly my point. Thus illustrating that many ppl would really like a
coloured
sound but have to call it 'realistic' to save face.

Your point completely wrong. people who use live music as areference
are not looking for "colored" sound. All playback is inheently
"colored." The goal is a better illusion of "uncolored" or more
realistic sound. So it is not a case that these people prefer colored
sound at all.



Now consider the same with added low order THD from a valve amp.



If they make the final sound more relistic then it is makes them less
colored.

Big freaking "if"!

You know if I **** in the next pot o'soup I make, maybe the saltiness will
make the soup taste better. And if you believe that!

"Arny Krueger" wrote


You know if I **** in the next pot o'soup I make, maybe the saltiness will
make the soup taste better. And if you believe that!


'Salty'....??

How do you know that...?? :-)

Arny Krueger wrote:

wrote
Eeyore wrote:

Your point completely wrong. people who use live music as areference
are not looking for "colored" sound. All playback is inheently
"colored." The goal is a better illusion of "uncolored" or more
realistic sound. So it is not a case that these people prefer colored
sound at all.

Now consider the same with added low order THD from a valve amp.

If they make the final sound more relistic then it is makes them less
colored.

Big freaking "if"!

And depends entirely on anyone's view of what *realistic* is ! Radio Shack
had/has still ?a brand called Realistic ffs !


You know if I **** in the next pot o'soup I make, maybe the saltiness will
make the soup taste better. And if you believe that!

I've noticed ( in real life ) that if a soup uses salt to 'taste good', one's
tempted to add more to make it taste 'better'. For my own part I've all but
eliminated salt in my cooking and it tastes one heck of a lot better to me for
it, yet the salt fiends would doubtless disagree !

Graham