Laurence Payne wrote:

Oh, don't worry about Phil and his attitude problem.

But speakers live in a room and the two must be considered together. I
like wooden floors too. But you might like to investigate the effect
of bringing your speakers a little closer to the listening position
and throwing a couple of rugs on the floor in-between. Soft
furnishings and heavy curtains are good too.

I'll go with that.

Graham

" wrote:

Laurence Payne wrote:

Oh, don't worry about Phil and his attitude problem.

But speakers live in a room and the two must be considered together. I
like wooden floors too. But you might like to investigate the effect
of bringing your speakers a little closer to the listening position
and throwing a couple of rugs on the floor in-between. Soft
furnishings and heavy curtains are good too.

Thank you.

Rugs, yes have them, tick, covering the immediate area around the
notional speaker position.

Heavy curtain, tick (would be behind speakers/stands)
Large sofas, tick.

It's a thick wood floor (not laminate), laid on a concrete slab (modern
top floor flat).

I'd love to know a few brands/models to start listening to and if my
price bracket / wooden floor / will totally waste the amp's capability
- clearly listenting to my amp in a shop is not possible and a starting
point, before borrowing speakers would be nice.............but I
appreciate may not be realistic.

The ampliifer makes sod all difference really. Except for extreme cases ( and
valve equipment ) there is no significant 'interestion' between an amp and the
speakers ( short of dismal design ).

Graham

On 22 Sep 2006 04:33:04 -0700, "
wrote:

I'd love to know a few brands/models to start listening to and if my
price bracket / wooden floor / will totally waste the amp's capability
- clearly listenting to my amp in a shop is not possible and a starting
point, before borrowing speakers would be nice.............but I
appreciate may not be realistic.

The amp and CD player, as long as they're competent, will have minimal
impact on sound quality. You're listening to the speakers, in the
room. (Well, actually, far more important again you're listing to the
performance and the recording.)

The Quad 11L you mention are small speakers with 5" bass drivers. You
might prefer your Mission 760s. What don't you like about them?

David wrote:

...My living room has wooden floors...

Perhaps there could be a market for wood-effect carpet?

cheers, Ian

"Tim"

** Arrogant Groper Audiophool ****wit Alert

( is there any other kind?)



** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in
an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.


Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor


** Fine - your priorities are now clear.

YOU simply have no interest in good sound reproduction.

YOU are just another ****** who likes to collect hi-fi trinkets.


Stop wasting everyone's time - go away.



What a ****ing stupid response to someone who genuinely wants some
help.


** ******** !!

The idiot OP only wanted to have his WRONG ideas re-enforced.

Know nothing ****s like YOU are happy to oblige.



These days bare floors are a compromise a lot of people have to live
with.


** ********.



to O/P - a strategically placed rug or soft might help


** More ********.





.......... Phil

The Quad 11L you mention are small speakers with 5" bass drivers. You
might prefer your Mission 760s. What don't you like about them?

Laurence,

My 760s are pretty ugly/beat up as result of several house moves/uni
moves, showing their 15yrs...........plus I always though they sounded
guttless with the audiolab amp (comments on the effect of the amp on
sound now noted).

I would note that they've always beeen on stands, with a carpeted room.
I had them in various positions in terms of wall distance, distance
apart etc...........no bass to speak of.

I am after something that has low volume 'guts' as i live in a flat I
wont be cranking the volume up to 11 very often

The comments on floor standers are interesting, always wanted some,
admitantly more for aesthetics than anything else............but as
someone else said the speakers and room should work
together................my girlfriend has to have some input too, as
it's her lounge too.

Thanks all who've responded to date.

Dave

You can break up the reflections without going as far as carpeting by
scattering some sheepskin rugs about, I had to do this in a shiny
wooden floored apartment, better than nothing


wrote:
** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.




....... Phil

Phil

Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor - I
note your comments though. I have some okay (prob budget for this
group) £100 Sennheiser headphones. I do need some loud speakers
though.

Thanks

David

"Robert Deas"

** TOP POSTING Groper alert !


You can break up the reflections without going as far as carpeting by
scattering some sheepskin rugs about, I had to do this in a shiny
wooden floored apartment, better than nothing


** Read the first line of my post - what does it say ??

A few floor mats in an otherwise bare room IS better than nothing - in
the same way a packet of confetti is better than having no toilet paper at
all.



......... Phil



** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.


Phil

Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor - I
note your comments though. I have some okay (prob budget for this
group) £100 Sennheiser headphones. I do need some loud speakers
though.

Thanks

David