Vinyl sounding indistinguishable from CD. Details as follows:

Audio Note DAC (big bugger, about £2.5K)
Rega Planar with Audio Note cartridge
Home-built phono stage with EC8010 and 6GK5

Both went through the following single ended system:
DHT valve preamp with 1G4s and a very good filament supply.
Audio Note 300b SET amp with 5687 driver stage.
Tannoy speakers (2x 12" and one 10" - don't know name ??Wellington)

Volume was equalised between both inputs. Switching was done between
the LP and CD of the following:
Santana Abraxus
Ray Gelato big Band on Linn

To my ears these were so close as to be virtually indistinguishable. My
guesses in a single blind test were approx. random.

I can only report this for what it's worth. I found it a very
interesting experiment and not at all what I'd expect. For the record,
I went to the HiFi Show and the sound in the various rooms was
radically different, so I'm pretty convinced it's not my hearing. The
CD and LP really, really were so close as to sound virtually the same.
Interesting. Andy

Andy Evans wrote:
Vinyl sounding indistinguishable from CD. Details as follows:

Audio Note DAC (big bugger, about £2.5K)
Rega Planar with Audio Note cartridge
Home-built phono stage with EC8010 and 6GK5

Both went through the following single ended system:
DHT valve preamp with 1G4s and a very good filament supply.
Audio Note 300b SET amp with 5687 driver stage.
Tannoy speakers (2x 12" and one 10" - don't know name ??Wellington)

Volume was equalised between both inputs. Switching was done between
the LP and CD of the following:
Santana Abraxus
Ray Gelato big Band on Linn

To my ears these were so close as to be virtually indistinguishable. My
guesses in a single blind test were approx. random.

I can only report this for what it's worth. I found it a very
interesting experiment and not at all what I'd expect. For the record,
I went to the HiFi Show and the sound in the various rooms was
radically different, so I'm pretty convinced it's not my hearing. The
CD and LP really, really were so close as to sound virtually the same.
Interesting. Andy

I'd say dumb luck at best. There are several versions of Abraxus on LP
with huge differences in sound between them.


Scott

Andy Evans wrote:
Vinyl sounding indistinguishable from CD. Details as follows:

Audio Note DAC (big bugger, about £2.5K)
Rega Planar with Audio Note cartridge
Home-built phono stage with EC8010 and 6GK5

Both went through the following single ended system:
DHT valve preamp with 1G4s and a very good filament supply.
Audio Note 300b SET amp with 5687 driver stage.
Tannoy speakers (2x 12" and one 10" - don't know name ??Wellington)

Volume was equalised between both inputs. Switching was done between
the LP and CD of the following:
Santana Abraxus
Ray Gelato big Band on Linn

To my ears these were so close as to be virtually indistinguishable. My
guesses in a single blind test were approx. random.

I can only report this for what it's worth. I found it a very
interesting experiment and not at all what I'd expect. For the record,
I went to the HiFi Show and the sound in the various rooms was
radically different, so I'm pretty convinced it's not my hearing. The
CD and LP really, really were so close as to sound virtually the same.
Interesting. Andy


I've tried this with Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles CD/LP - the sound of
instruments is virtually identical, with vocals a little set back and a
deeper soundstage on the LP. I'll dig out and post some mp3s if anyone's
interested.

Rob

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Andy Evans wrote:
Vinyl sounding indistinguishable from CD. Details as follows:

Audio Note DAC (big bugger, about £2.5K)
Rega Planar with Audio Note cartridge
Home-built phono stage with EC8010 and 6GK5

Both went through the following single ended system:
DHT valve preamp with 1G4s and a very good filament supply.
Audio Note 300b SET amp with 5687 driver stage.
Tannoy speakers (2x 12" and one 10" - don't know name ??Wellington)

Volume was equalised between both inputs. Switching was done between
the LP and CD of the following:
Santana Abraxus
Ray Gelato big Band on Linn

To my ears these were so close as to be virtually indistinguishable. My
guesses in a single blind test were approx. random.

I can only report this for what it's worth. I found it a very
interesting experiment and not at all what I'd expect. For the record,
I went to the HiFi Show and the sound in the various rooms was
radically different, so I'm pretty convinced it's not my hearing. The
CD and LP really, really were so close as to sound virtually the same.
Interesting. Andy


I've tried this with Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles CD/LP - the sound of
instruments is virtually identical, with vocals a little set back and a
deeper soundstage on the LP.



Well, there's a surprise...!! :-))

(Who'da thunk it??)



I'll dig out and post some mp3s if anyone's
interested.


Yep, I'm interested. Some time back (with the kit I had at the time) I could
flick between DS 'Brothers In Arms' CD and LP and *nobody* could tell which
was which!!

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:44:11 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Yep, I'm interested. Some time back (with the kit I had at the time) I could
flick between DS 'Brothers In Arms' CD and LP and *nobody* could tell which
was which!!

They REALLY couldn't hear the surface noise on the LP? I know we
trained our ears to ignore it. But in an A/B comparison?

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:44:11 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Yep, I'm interested. Some time back (with the kit I had at the time) I could
flick between DS 'Brothers In Arms' CD and LP and *nobody* could tell which
was which!!

They REALLY couldn't hear the surface noise on the LP? I know we
trained our ears to ignore it. But in an A/B comparison?

Even more curiously, CD and vinyl versions are often EQ'd slightly differently..

Graham

Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Andy Evans wrote:
Vinyl sounding indistinguishable from CD. Details as follows:

Audio Note DAC (big bugger, about £2.5K)
Rega Planar with Audio Note cartridge
Home-built phono stage with EC8010 and 6GK5

Both went through the following single ended system:
DHT valve preamp with 1G4s and a very good filament supply.
Audio Note 300b SET amp with 5687 driver stage.
Tannoy speakers (2x 12" and one 10" - don't know name ??Wellington)

Volume was equalised between both inputs. Switching was done between
the LP and CD of the following:
Santana Abraxus
Ray Gelato big Band on Linn

To my ears these were so close as to be virtually indistinguishable. My
guesses in a single blind test were approx. random.

I can only report this for what it's worth. I found it a very
interesting experiment and not at all what I'd expect. For the record,
I went to the HiFi Show and the sound in the various rooms was
radically different, so I'm pretty convinced it's not my hearing. The
CD and LP really, really were so close as to sound virtually the same.
Interesting. Andy

I've tried this with Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles CD/LP - the sound of
instruments is virtually identical, with vocals a little set back and a
deeper soundstage on the LP.



Well, there's a surprise...!! :-))

(Who'da thunk it??)



I'll dig out and post some mp3s if anyone's
interested.


Yep, I'm interested. Some time back (with the kit I had at the time) I could
flick between DS 'Brothers In Arms' CD and LP and *nobody* could tell which
was which!!


Okeydokey - I'll try to dig them out later. Got to go back to bleedin'
work now because the server's down :-(

Rob

Eeyore je napisao/la:
Laurence Payne wrote:

They REALLY couldn't hear the surface noise on the LP? I know we
trained our ears to ignore it. But in an A/B comparison?

Even more curiously, CD and vinyl versions are often EQ'd slightly differently..

Graham


And CD is usually mastered louder than the vinyl. Also,not to
mention the fact that

the bass is sometimes specially eq-d for the vinyl releases.


Davor