Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go and buy
these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions too. But I don't
want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire, possibly
better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

I have a version of Audio Cleaning Lab and a colleague's PC with Adobe's
Audition. Audition's built in de-clicker and hiss removal seems far better
that ACL (ACL actually added some artifacts that sounded just like clicks),
but was wondering if there are better solutions, and hopefully not as
expensive as Audition.

Thanks.

Grumps wrote:

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Interesting method.

I use a Rega Planar 3 with Pro-Ject Phono Box II connected to a Sony CD
recorder for capture. I then rip the resultant CD-RW onto the PC and
clean it up digitally.

I have a version of Audio Cleaning Lab and a colleague's PC with
Adobe's Audition. Audition's built in de-clicker and hiss removal
seems far better that ACL (ACL actually added some artifacts that
sounded just like clicks), but was wondering if there are better
solutions, and hopefully not as expensive as Audition.

The wave editor that comes with Nero actually does a pretty good job of
de-clicking and noise reduction. I use that and have had some pretty
good results with it.

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Glenn Richards wrote:
Grumps wrote:

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Interesting method.

I use a Rega Planar 3 with Pro-Ject Phono Box II connected to a Sony
CD recorder for capture. I then rip the resultant CD-RW onto the PC
and clean it up digitally.

I have a version of Audio Cleaning Lab and a colleague's PC with
Adobe's Audition. Audition's built in de-clicker and hiss removal
seems far better that ACL (ACL actually added some artifacts that
sounded just like clicks), but was wondering if there are better
solutions, and hopefully not as expensive as Audition.

The wave editor that comes with Nero actually does a pretty good job
of de-clicking and noise reduction. I use that and have had some
pretty good results with it.

Thanks. I never even thought about Nero. I'll give it a whirl tonight.

"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go and
buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions too. But I
don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire, possibly
better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go and
buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions too. But I
don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire, possibly
better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.


Sort of related, have you got any opinion of the Mac Mini's audio inputs:

http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/

I'm going to use one as a music/video server. I'd also like it to record
analogue things.

TIA, Rob

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go and
buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions too. But
I don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.


Sort of related, have you got any opinion of the Mac Mini's audio inputs:

http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/

I'm going to use one as a music/video server. I'd also like it to record
analogue things.

I do nothing with Macs. However the basic sound on Macs has been more
predictably better than on contemporaneous PCs. PC on-board sound can range
from very poor to pretty much OK for consumer use.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go and
buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions too. But
I don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.
Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.

Sort of related, have you got any opinion of the Mac Mini's audio inputs:

http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/

I'm going to use one as a music/video server. I'd also like it to record
analogue things.

I do nothing with Macs. However the basic sound on Macs has been more
predictably better than on contemporaneous PCs. PC on-board sound can range
from very poor to pretty much OK for consumer use.



Ta - my new Intel iMac sounds pretty good through the built in speakers,
and it's got various audio in/outs but I can't be bothered to lug it
about the house. I find the 'old' Mini's analogue (G4) out to be a
little 'flat' compared to the posh Creative soundcard on the PC. The
newer ones have digital out so I'd use that for playback. IIRC digital
in is a little trickier - my AV amp doesn't do A-D (could have that
wrong). Whatever, when/if I'll let the world know.

Rob

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go
and buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions
too. But I don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.

Onboard sound output is definitely full of noise and 'squeaks'. I assumed
that onboard sound inputs would be similar.
Audio recorded and played back with camcorder is quiet (wrt noise).

"Grumps" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could go
and buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3 versions
too. But I don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.

Onboard sound output is definitely full of noise and 'squeaks'.

That's possible, but not a general rule.

I assumed that onboard sound inputs would be similar.

Not necessarily.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Grumps" wrote in message
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Hi All

I have decided to convert some of my old LPs onto CD. Yes I could
go and buy these CDs, and yes I could illegally download MP3
versions too. But I don't want to do either of these.

I have my old RP3 connected (via Nait amp) to the input of my Sony
camcorder. This then allows me to capture the audio via firewire,
possibly better quality than my PC's onboard sound input.

Probably not, but I don't know what your PC's onboard sound is like.

Onboard sound output is definitely full of noise and 'squeaks'.

That's possible, but not a general rule.

I assumed that onboard sound inputs would be similar.

Not necessarily.

You're right!
I just did a simple test using my CD player as a signal source (pure single
tone test disk), and ran SpectraPLUS on the captured wav file to see the
spectrum and SNR.
The camcorder manages a mere 53dB, but the line-in (on-board PC sound) gets
to 71dB.
A lot of this (noise; am I wrong to want to get nearer to 90+dB?) is
probably in the CD player (portable), so I'll grab my audio tone generator
from work tomorrow.