On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:55:16 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote


Well, squash isn't a word that comes to mind looking at those - don't
like the look of those shears either, especially in context :-(


They ain't shears, they're scissors...

Right, in acknowledgement of the interest shown by your own good self, you
shall be the first to hear how this little experiment went:

First, you've seen my balls:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/balls.JPG


Now, by means of a secret method, they are made up thus (note the interest
shown by the DLL who has nothing better to do):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...&%20Friend.JPG

Here is the deck on the 'Spunj Feet' (which have just about the right amount
of give):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Spunj%20Feet.JPG

And now on the 'Bolly Feet':

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Bolly%20Feet.JPG


A quick comparison (sighted, because I need help with the lifting/placement)
brought the following reaction from my resident, totally neutral 'Golden
Ears' - 'Wow! Much more 'airy' and tuneful!!'

??? ('Sonorous' was also said a little while afterwards! ;-)

Now, guess which way round that was...??

Comparisons not yet started in earnest and they will be done as 'blind' as
possible with anybody who is up for it......



In that case you just need to rest the deck straight down. The balls
won't be contributing anything except perhaps a bit of wobbliness and
a tendency to go skidding off the stand if someone coughs.

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:55:16 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:



Comparisons not yet started in earnest and they will be done as 'blind' as
possible with anybody who is up for it......



In that case you just need to rest the deck straight down. The balls
won't be contributing anything except perhaps a bit of wobbliness and
a tendency to go skidding off the stand if someone coughs.


The deck flumped directly onto the stand is an option I hadn't thought of
and which will be tried. It's no big deal, it's just me trying out ideas,
although there's not much doubt that taking the 'springing' off has improved
it and tightened it up noticeably!!

I will get a couple of people to hear the options and throw out an opinion -
'can't tell' will be a valid response, but I could *see* Swim was taken
aback somewhat when I swapped to the balls after the sponges after only
about a minute both ways.

If they hold up under this rigorous testing I shall need a name to market
them - also, they cost 15p a corner (you only need 3) so some idea of price
would be handy?

Say $199/£199 a set and call them Brittany Spheres?

(Swim has just suggested 'Airy Bollies'....!! :-)

Keith G wrote:

The deck flumped directly onto the stand is an option I hadn't
thought of and which will be tried. It's no big deal, it's just me
trying out ideas, although there's not much doubt that taking the
'springing' off has improved it and tightened it up noticeably!!

I'm a great believer in mass. Lightweight stuff can work if it's done right,
but it's easier to get a result with over-engineering - heavy **** is always
harder to move. You could bolt the deck down onto a heavy slab of something
(black granite?) with some sort of damping between that and the concrete
slab.

My little Kef Q Compacts (200 quid, 10" high bookshelf jobbies) weigh 4kg
each, but, with the sand filled stands, they're about 20kg. When I tried
them full range with one amp, I was surprised at how much depth there was in
the bass, and at how solid it was. (I cut the low end at 200Hz in the
tri-amped set up.)


--
Wally
www.wally.myby.co.uk
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

"Wally" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

The deck flumped directly onto the stand is an option I hadn't
thought of and which will be tried. It's no big deal, it's just me
trying out ideas, although there's not much doubt that taking the
'springing' off has improved it and tightened it up noticeably!!

I'm a great believer in mass. Lightweight stuff can work if it's done
right,
but it's easier to get a result with over-engineering - heavy **** is
always
harder to move. You could bolt the deck down onto a heavy slab of
something
(black granite?) with some sort of damping between that and the concrete
slab.


Yes and no...

I don't think mass per se is the whole answer. There is the unscientific
term 'musicality' to take into consideration and I'm pretty certain
overdamping and too much 'mass coupling' can do as much damage in this area
as too little....


My little Kef Q Compacts (200 quid, 10" high bookshelf jobbies) weigh 4kg
each, but, with the sand filled stands, they're about 20kg. When I tried
them full range with one amp, I was surprised at how much depth there was
in
the bass, and at how solid it was. (I cut the low end at 200Hz in the
tri-amped set up.)


.....when I loaded my Paladins with lead shot it killed them! I reduced it by
degrees until I ended up taking it all out again! Also, there are (were?) a
number of speakers that fly in the face of convention ('knuckle test' for
cabinet resonance) like the thinwall Rogers Studio Monitors I had, which
were very good speakers in their own way.

FWIW, I am also beginning to think plywood really does make a better 'horn'
speaker than MDF, but I'm a long way off a conclusion yet....!!