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jailhouserock September 27th 06 10:14 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
Does anyone know the vintage year and specs (efficiency rating) of the
Pioneer CS-99a speakers ?

I've had about 10 pairs of different vintage speakers so far- and these
by far have the heaviest cabinets and thickest board used to make the
cabinets- they also have removeable backs which is a nice plus. As
usual, finding info on these on the net is difficult, as most places
want to sell you a vintage audio "bible" to get the info.

any help appreciated- thanks


Laurence Payne September 27th 06 11:10 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On 27 Sep 2006 15:14:22 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:

I've had about 10 pairs of different vintage speakers so far- and these
by far have the heaviest cabinets and thickest board used to make the
cabinets- they also have removeable backs which is a nice plus. As
usual, finding info on these on the net is difficult, as most places
want to sell you a vintage audio "bible" to get the info.


Why are removable backs a plus? If the speaker fixings are
accessible from the front, that's fine. A sealed back would seem
superior, if anything.

jailhouserock September 28th 06 12:27 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Laurence Payne wrote:
On 27 Sep 2006 15:14:22 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:

I've had about 10 pairs of different vintage speakers so far- and these
by far have the heaviest cabinets and thickest board used to make the
cabinets- they also have removeable backs which is a nice plus. As
usual, finding info on these on the net is difficult, as most places
want to sell you a vintage audio "bible" to get the info.


Why are removable backs a plus? If the speaker fixings are
accessible from the front, that's fine. A sealed back would seem
superior, if anything.



You don't have to remove the woofer to get at the adjustable
crossovers- and the backs are countersunk on the edges, for a really
tight fit. Also to get at the speaker wire connections to each driver,
a removeable back makes it much easier, than pulling each driver out.


Laurence Payne September 28th 06 01:15 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On 28 Sep 2006 05:27:32 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


You don't have to remove the woofer to get at the adjustable
crossovers- and the backs are countersunk on the edges, for a really
tight fit. Also to get at the speaker wire connections to each driver,
a removeable back makes it much easier, than pulling each driver out.


Well, OK. But why would you need adjustable crossovers or access to
the wiring unless you were changing drivers?

jailhouserock September 28th 06 10:19 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Laurence Payne wrote:
On 28 Sep 2006 05:27:32 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


You don't have to remove the woofer to get at the adjustable
crossovers- and the backs are countersunk on the edges, for a really
tight fit. Also to get at the speaker wire connections to each driver,
a removeable back makes it much easier, than pulling each driver out.


Well, OK. But why would you need adjustable crossovers or access to
the wiring unless you were changing drivers?



You need adjustable crossovers while changing drivers ?? What you said
is a red herring argument.

Changing drivers- if you never had to change out at least a tweeter,
you haven't been listening to music very much, or very long. I've
changed tweeters in many speakers, and mids- and my main speakers just
had the woofers changed out for bad surrounds, under the lifetime
warranty. Those lasted 20 years, I bought them in 1986.

I had to cut open a speaker that was sealed and glued together once, to
change the crossover cap- because I was changing out a bad tweeter and
could not get to it from the front.

see ??


Eiron September 28th 06 10:50 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
jailhouserock wrote:

Changing drivers- if you never had to change out at least a tweeter,
you haven't been listening to music very much, or very long. I've
changed tweeters in many speakers, and mids- and my main speakers just
had the woofers changed out for bad surrounds, under the lifetime
warranty. Those lasted 20 years, I bought them in 1986.


Here's a wild idea but it just might work!
Have you tried *not* overloading every speaker you've owned?

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.

jailhouserock September 29th 06 01:29 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Eiron wrote:
jailhouserock wrote:

Changing drivers- if you never had to change out at least a tweeter,
you haven't been listening to music very much, or very long. I've
changed tweeters in many speakers, and mids- and my main speakers just
had the woofers changed out for bad surrounds, under the lifetime
warranty. Those lasted 20 years, I bought them in 1986.


Here's a wild idea but it just might work!
Have you tried *not* overloading every speaker you've owned?

--
Eiron



back in the good old days, "receiver wars" of the 1970-80's,
overloading speakers was a way of life

I don't do that anymore, with 8 watts per channel and a single ended
pentode dual-monoblock tube amp

but the surrounds will still dry rot and crack- and crossover caps will
deteriorate- so removing the back makes total sense

not to mention upgrading with baffles or insulation

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut


Don Pearce September 29th 06 01:36 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On 29 Sep 2006 06:29:24 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut


Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Laurence Payne September 29th 06 01:44 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut


Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?


What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)

Don Pearce September 29th 06 01:49 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:44:17 +0100, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut


Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?


What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)


Sorry, no idea what this question means.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Laurence Payne September 29th 06 01:53 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:49:06 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?


What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)


Sorry, no idea what this question means.


It didn't have a question mark at the end :-)

Don Pearce September 29th 06 01:59 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:53:57 +0100, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:49:06 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)


Sorry, no idea what this question means.


It didn't have a question mark at the end :-)


It didn't? "What hood, then?" certainly looks like it has a question
mark - my mistake.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Laurence Payne September 29th 06 02:34 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:59:44 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)

Sorry, no idea what this question means.


It didn't have a question mark at the end :-)


It didn't? "What hood, then?" certainly looks like it has a question
mark - my mistake.


You were commenting to my post, not the original one.

You REALLY don't know the colonials call the car bonnet a hood? Or
that you non-convertible doesn't have a hood at all? C'mon :-)

Don Pearce September 29th 06 02:38 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:34:35 +0100, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:59:44 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)

Sorry, no idea what this question means.

It didn't have a question mark at the end :-)


It didn't? "What hood, then?" certainly looks like it has a question
mark - my mistake.


You were commenting to my post, not the original one.


Of course I was commenting on your post - otherwise I would not have
replied to it.

You REALLY don't know the colonials call the car bonnet a hood? Or
that you non-convertible doesn't have a hood at all? C'mon :-)


Yup - I do. But as this is a UK news group, I decided to play the UK
vocabulary card. If I were in a US group, I would always call the
bonnet the hood, just out of good manners.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Laurence Payne September 29th 06 04:58 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:38:42 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:


You REALLY don't know the colonials call the car bonnet a hood? Or
that you non-convertible doesn't have a hood at all? C'mon :-)


Yup - I do. But as this is a UK news group, I decided to play the UK
vocabulary card. If I were in a US group, I would always call the
bonnet the hood, just out of good manners.


Oh right. When you said:"Sorry, no idea what this question means" you
were lying for effect. Understood.

Don Pearce September 29th 06 05:13 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:58:53 +0100, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:38:42 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:


You REALLY don't know the colonials call the car bonnet a hood? Or
that you non-convertible doesn't have a hood at all? C'mon :-)


Yup - I do. But as this is a UK news group, I decided to play the UK
vocabulary card. If I were in a US group, I would always call the
bonnet the hood, just out of good manners.


Oh right. When you said:"Sorry, no idea what this question means" you
were lying for effect. Understood.


No, that was the literal truth. I have absolutely no idea what "What
hood then?" means, particularly in context.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

jailhouserock September 30th 06 11:29 AM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut


Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?


What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)


yeh, Pearce, lame...really lame...


Don Pearce September 30th 06 11:33 AM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On 30 Sep 2006 04:29:30 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?


What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)


yeh, Pearce, lame...really lame...


Not lame. English is the language of this group, not American. Deal
with it.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

jailhouserock October 12th 06 12:25 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Don Pearce wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 04:29:30 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)


yeh, Pearce, lame...really lame...


Not lame. English is the language of this group, not American. Deal
with it.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com



speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....


Keith G October 12th 06 03:22 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

"jailhouserock" wrote


speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....



Yep, I even got that on vinyl:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...e%20Coming.mp3


It's so realistic - you can even *smell* the Yankee poo in the first few
bars....


:-))


Now go see what the Wackypedia has to say on the subject....

LOL!!








jailhouserock October 19th 06 01:11 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Keith G wrote:
"jailhouserock" wrote


speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....



Yep, I even got that on vinyl:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...e%20Coming.mp3


It's so realistic - you can even *smell* the Yankee poo in the first few
bars....


:-))


Now go see what the Wackypedia has to say on the subject....

LOL!!



speakers sold- shipped to Germany

suck it up


Don Pearce October 19th 06 01:20 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 
On 12 Oct 2006 05:25:08 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Don Pearce wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 04:29:30 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)

yeh, Pearce, lame...really lame...


Not lame. English is the language of this group, not American. Deal
with it.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com



speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....


Only because you got the French to help you out. Imagine that! If I
were you I'd keep my mouth shut - that is WAY too embarrassing.

d


The French..... tee hee hee...

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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jailhouserock October 19th 06 01:24 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Don Pearce wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 05:25:08 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Don Pearce wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 04:29:30 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one :-)

yeh, Pearce, lame...really lame...

Not lame. English is the language of this group, not American. Deal
with it.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com



speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....


Only because you got the French to help you out. Imagine that! If I
were you I'd keep my mouth shut - that is WAY too embarrassing.

d


The French..... tee hee hee...



seems they got a little help in WWI and WWII as well....after being
conquered by the Nazis, eh ?

who has missiles and troops in who's country today ?

we push a button here, you're ******** country disappears- keep that in
mind...

you're a marble in an American/China/Russia marble game...


Keith G October 19th 06 03:27 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

"jailhouserock" wrote in message
oups.com...

Keith G wrote:
"jailhouserock" wrote


speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....



Yep, I even got that on vinyl:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...e%20Coming.mp3


It's so realistic - you can even *smell* the Yankee poo in the first few
bars....


:-))


Now go see what the Wackypedia has to say on the subject....

LOL!!



speakers sold- shipped to Germany




Who TF cares....???





Keith G October 19th 06 03:41 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

"jailhouserock" wrote in message
oups.com...

Don Pearce wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 05:25:08 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Don Pearce wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 04:29:30 -0700, "jailhouserock"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:36:02 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

why build a machine that can't be serviced ? that's like welding
the
hood of a car shut

Huh? The hood of my car is welded shut; that's because it isn't a
convertible - where's the problem?

What hood, then?

If you want to be smart-ass, at least come up with a possible one
:-)

yeh, Pearce, lame...really lame...

Not lame. English is the language of this group, not American. Deal
with it.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com


speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....


Only because you got the French to help you out. Imagine that! If I
were you I'd keep my mouth shut - that is WAY too embarrassing.

d


The French..... tee hee hee...



seems they got a little help in WWI and WWII as well....after being
conquered by the Nazis, eh ?

who has missiles and troops in who's country today ?

we push a button here, you're ******** country disappears- keep that in
mind...

you're a marble in an American/China/Russia marble game...




Grow up sonny - without this ******** country to hold your dick, you clowns
couldn't take a **** without soaking your own shoes....

(You'd think Yanks would learn to keep it zipped, now that they are clearly
the most unpopular nation* on the planet....??)



* In the loosest sense....






jailhouserock October 22nd 06 04:53 PM

Pioneer CS-99a speakers-vintage/specs ?
 

Keith G wrote:
"jailhouserock" wrote in message
oups.com...

Keith G wrote:
"jailhouserock" wrote


speakers are sold

limey that got ass kicked in Revolutionary War said what ??

ta-ta....



Yep, I even got that on vinyl:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...e%20Coming.mp3


It's so realistic - you can even *smell* the Yankee poo in the first few
bars....


:-))


Now go see what the Wackypedia has to say on the subject....

LOL!!



speakers sold- shipped to Germany




Who TF cares....???



you obviously care too much-being you're following so closely



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