OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do they
lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals separated, or
do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what they want? Or is
there clever computerism?

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"Doki"

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do they
lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals separated, or
do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what they want? Or is
there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix




........ Phil

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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Doki"

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix

Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Doki the Dope "


When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix

Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.



** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.




......... Phil

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In article ,
Doki wrote:
When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?

Two different questions, really. A re-mix by definition needs access to
the multi-track master. A sample could be anything.

--
*Vegetarians taste great*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Doki the Dope "


When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix

Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.



** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.

Mentioned. Not explained. Which is what I asked: how is it done.

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Doki the ****wit Dope "

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix

Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.



** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.

Mentioned. Not explained. Which is what I asked: how is it done.



** A method * IS * how you do something - ****head.

Go ask the all the trolls and jerk-offs on " rec.audio.pro " if you want a
nuts and bolts explanation of the many dozens of different techniques
employed.

Not that a ****ing tenth-wit called Doki the Dope would comprehend a
single word.




........ Phil

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doki wrote:
When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?

Two different questions, really. A re-mix by definition needs access to
the multi-track master. A sample could be anything.

Take something like that Sugababes song that sampled Gary Numan (electric
sheep IIRC), where they get the synthy backing track and take the vocals off
it - do they get the masters and get the backing track that way or is there
a way to get the vocals off the mixed single (photoshop for sound :D?). Or
even earlier, something like Rappers Delight, where there wasn't computer
jiggery pokery and they apparently didn't have permission to use the sample
(maybe just loop a bit without vocals?).

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Doki the ****wit Dope "

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got
what they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix

Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.



** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.

Mentioned. Not explained. Which is what I asked: how is it done.



** A method * IS * how you do something - ****head.

There's a big difference between saying the method for making bread is
"Baking" rather than "you do x y and z".

Go ask the all the trolls and jerk-offs on " rec.audio.pro " if you want
a nuts and bolts explanation of the many dozens of different techniques
employed.

If I'm being OT, that's because there's OT? in the subject line.

Not that a ****ing tenth-wit called Doki the Dope would comprehend a
single word.

Alliteration!

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Doki the ****wit Dope "



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix


** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.



** A method * IS * how you do something - ****head.


Not that an ASD ****ed, tenth-witted ASS called Doki the Dope would
comprehend even a single word.






....... Phil

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

In article ,
Doki wrote:
Take something like that Sugababes song that sampled Gary Numan
(electric sheep IIRC), where they get the synthy backing track and take
the vocals off it - do they get the masters and get the backing track
that way or is there a way to get the vocals off the mixed single
(photoshop for sound :D?). Or even earlier, something like Rappers
Delight, where there wasn't computer jiggery pokery and they apparently
didn't have permission to use the sample (maybe just loop a bit without
vocals?).

If a stereo recording, phase reversing one channel at filtered frequencies
might remove most of the vocal - or someone may have made a prog to do
this digitally - but it's unlikely to leave the backing totally untouched.

--
*Welcome to **** Creek - sorry, we're out of paddles*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doki wrote:
Take something like that Sugababes song that sampled Gary Numan
(electric sheep IIRC), where they get the synthy backing track and take
the vocals off it - do they get the masters and get the backing track
that way or is there a way to get the vocals off the mixed single
(photoshop for sound :D?). Or even earlier, something like Rappers
Delight, where there wasn't computer jiggery pokery and they apparently
didn't have permission to use the sample (maybe just loop a bit without
vocals?).

If a stereo recording, phase reversing one channel at filtered frequencies
might remove most of the vocal - or someone may have made a prog to do
this digitally - but it's unlikely to leave the backing totally untouched.

Right. Next I'll be asking why the vocals get louder when you make stereo
mono (it must be true, I heard it on Radio 2 the other day when someone was
talking about Dock of the Bay).

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

In article ,
Doki wrote:
Right. Next I'll be asking why the vocals get louder when you make
stereo mono (it must be true, I heard it on Radio 2 the other day when
someone was talking about Dock of the Bay).

If the vocal is in fact mono as most are on a stereo recording (apart from
the reverb) it shouldn't make any difference. However, there is likely to
be more in the way of 'phasey' FX applied to some backing instruments to
make them sound bigger, and this will cancel in mono. I'll see if I can
dig out Dock of the Bay and have a play, and try and analyse it.

--
*Life is hard; then you nap

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

OT? Remixing / Sampling
 

"Dave Plowman (News)"

Right. Next I'll be asking why the vocals get louder when you make
stereo mono (it must be true, I heard it on Radio 2 the other day when
someone was talking about Dock of the Bay).

If the vocal is in fact mono as most are on a stereo recording (apart from
the reverb) it shouldn't make any difference.



** Where there is a central vocal on a stereo recording and the other
sounds are uncorrelated between L and R channels - the vocal will
appear 6 dB louder in the L plus R sum signal while the sum of the
uncorrelated sounds will be only 3 dB louder, on average. So the vocal
signal gains 3 dB.

However, when the same recording is played by a pair of stereo speakers, the
exact same summation occurs in the air so the relative vocal to instrumental
balance remains unchanged to a listener.




........ Phil