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Old October 23rd 06, 11:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
doki
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When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do they
lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals separated, or
do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what they want? Or is
there clever computerism?

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Old October 23rd 06, 11:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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"Doki"

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do they
lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals separated, or
do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what they want? Or is
there clever computerism?




** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix




........ Phil




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Old October 24th 06, 08:29 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"Doki"

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?




** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix


Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.

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Old October 24th 06, 08:32 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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"Doki the Dope "


When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?




** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix


Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.




** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.




......... Phil


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Old October 24th 06, 01:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
doki
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"Doki the Dope "


When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix


Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.




** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.


Mentioned. Not explained. Which is what I asked: how is it done.

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Old October 24th 06, 01:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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"Doki the ****wit Dope "

When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?



** See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix

Doesn't really answer my question of how it's done. I know what it IS.




** Try reading it properly this time - ****** !!

All the methods are mentioned.

Some require access to the original multi-track while others don't.


Mentioned. Not explained. Which is what I asked: how is it done.




** A method * IS * how you do something - ****head.

Go ask the all the trolls and jerk-offs on " rec.audio.pro " if you want a
nuts and bolts explanation of the many dozens of different techniques
employed.

Not that a ****ing tenth-wit called Doki the Dope would comprehend a
single word.




........ Phil



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Old October 24th 06, 12:18 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Doki wrote:
When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?


Two different questions, really. A re-mix by definition needs access to
the multi-track master. A sample could be anything.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old October 24th 06, 01:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
doki
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Doki wrote:
When someone remixes or samples a part of a record, how's it done? Do
they lay their hands on masters with all the instruments & vocals
separated, or do they just blank out frequencies until they've got what
they want? Or is there clever computerism?


Two different questions, really. A re-mix by definition needs access to
the multi-track master. A sample could be anything.


Take something like that Sugababes song that sampled Gary Numan (electric
sheep IIRC), where they get the synthy backing track and take the vocals off
it - do they get the masters and get the backing track that way or is there
a way to get the vocals off the mixed single (photoshop for sound ?). Or
even earlier, something like Rappers Delight, where there wasn't computer
jiggery pokery and they apparently didn't have permission to use the sample
(maybe just loop a bit without vocals?).

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Old October 24th 06, 04:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Doki wrote:
Take something like that Sugababes song that sampled Gary Numan
(electric sheep IIRC), where they get the synthy backing track and take
the vocals off it - do they get the masters and get the backing track
that way or is there a way to get the vocals off the mixed single
(photoshop for sound ?). Or even earlier, something like Rappers
Delight, where there wasn't computer jiggery pokery and they apparently
didn't have permission to use the sample (maybe just loop a bit without
vocals?).


If a stereo recording, phase reversing one channel at filtered frequencies
might remove most of the vocal - or someone may have made a prog to do
this digitally - but it's unlikely to leave the backing totally untouched.

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Old October 24th 06, 10:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
doki
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Doki wrote:
Take something like that Sugababes song that sampled Gary Numan
(electric sheep IIRC), where they get the synthy backing track and take
the vocals off it - do they get the masters and get the backing track
that way or is there a way to get the vocals off the mixed single
(photoshop for sound ?). Or even earlier, something like Rappers
Delight, where there wasn't computer jiggery pokery and they apparently
didn't have permission to use the sample (maybe just loop a bit without
vocals?).


If a stereo recording, phase reversing one channel at filtered frequencies
might remove most of the vocal - or someone may have made a prog to do
this digitally - but it's unlikely to leave the backing totally untouched.


Right. Next I'll be asking why the vocals get louder when you make stereo
mono (it must be true, I heard it on Radio 2 the other day when someone was
talking about Dock of the Bay).

 




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