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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Also, while my knob is out for an easy target, why does this type of
recording have to be *stereo*...??

Strangely, it's easier to get an acceptable result with a 'one mic'
balance. The ears are more tolerant of any imbalance etc between the
instruments. You can prove this to yourself to some extent by switching to
mono.

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:54:20 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
writes
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:43:28 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message


Sure, I'll post a chunk tomorrow.


Did I miss this?


No, not posted yet - a bit too busy to dissect something
suitable right now.

OK. I was visiting my son and his family in York (PA) over the Thanksgiving
holiday, and posting from there for 4 days. Didn't want this to get lost in
the cracks.


OK - I have posted a minute or so he

http://81.174.169.10/odds/allegro.mp3

The group are happy, but I think there is a great deal more church
audible than there ought to be. Next time I will get in closer, or
perhaps get them to try a calmer venue - this place is more suited to
either the right kind of music (if you know what I mean) or a larger
ensemble that can better match the reverb.

Still, as a first outing for those mics, it will do.

d

Yes..Seems a tad on the bright side to me, but fine otherwise:)

You know what? It sounded just like that in the hall - they were
playing really brightly. The idea was that it would soften back quite
a lot when the audience was there. All to do with it being a dank,
miserable rainy evening, you see...

d

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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Yes..Seems a tad on the bright side to me, but fine otherwise:)

You know what? It sounded just like that in the hall - they were
playing really brightly. The idea was that it would soften back quite
a lot when the audience was there. All to do with it being a dank,
miserable rainy evening, you see...

A *proper* venue would have seats which provided the same absorption when
'up' as when occupied. ;-)

--
*Marriage changes passion - suddenly you're in bed with a relative*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
writes
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Also, while my knob is out for an easy target, why does this type of
recording have to be *stereo*...??

Strangely, it's easier to get an acceptable result with a 'one mic'
balance. The ears are more tolerant of any imbalance etc between the
instruments. You can prove this to yourself to some extent by switching to
mono.


Course Keith listens with one ear;!....
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:08:56 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Yes..Seems a tad on the bright side to me, but fine otherwise:)

You know what? It sounded just like that in the hall - they were
playing really brightly. The idea was that it would soften back quite
a lot when the audience was there. All to do with it being a dank,
miserable rainy evening, you see...

A *proper* venue would have seats which provided the same absorption when
'up' as when occupied. ;-)

As opposed to wooden pews, you mean? Quite so ;-)

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Also, while my knob is out for an easy target, why does this type of
recording have to be *stereo*...??

Strangely, it's easier to get an acceptable result with a 'one mic'
balance. The ears are more tolerant of any imbalance etc between the
instruments. You can prove this to yourself to some extent by switching to
mono.

--
*Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




As in 'Shades of O Brother' here?

http://www.crownaudio.com/mic_web/onemic2.htm

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:37:52 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Also, while my knob is out for an easy target, why does this type of
recording have to be *stereo*...??

Strangely, it's easier to get an acceptable result with a 'one mic'
balance. The ears are more tolerant of any imbalance etc between the
instruments. You can prove this to yourself to some extent by switching to
mono.

--
*Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




As in 'Shades of O Brother' here?

http://www.crownaudio.com/mic_web/onemic2.htm





Of course that "one mic" can be mono or stereo. What is meant here by
one mic is that there isn't one per artist. What I did on Saturday was
one mic, in these terms.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:43:28 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message


Sure, I'll post a chunk tomorrow.


Did I miss this?


No, not posted yet - a bit too busy to dissect something
suitable right now.

OK. I was visiting my son and his family in York (PA)
over the Thanksgiving holiday, and posting from there
for 4 days. Didn't want this to get lost in the cracks.


OK - I have posted a minute or so he

http://81.174.169.10/odds/allegro.mp3

The group are happy, but I think there is a great deal
more church audible than there ought to be. Next time I
will get in closer, or perhaps get them to try a calmer
venue - this place is more suited to either the right
kind of music (if you know what I mean) or a larger
ensemble that can better match the reverb.

Still, as a first outing for those mics, it will do.

Agreed.

First thing I noticed was that there was relatively high hiss. Any broken
steam pipes in that room? ;-)

Seems like a very sophisticated MP3 coder.

Musically - I would be very happy if my players were that good (or that
numerous!).

Room sonics seem to be very cold.

My first shot at remastering quickly moved to a uniform slope (logarithmic)
filter that was +10 dB at 20 Hz, and -20 at 20 Khz. That brought out too
much room noise, so I put in a break down to -30 dB starting at 200 Hz.

Bright room eh? ;-)

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:59:51 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:43:28 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message


Sure, I'll post a chunk tomorrow.


Did I miss this?


No, not posted yet - a bit too busy to dissect something
suitable right now.

OK. I was visiting my son and his family in York (PA)
over the Thanksgiving holiday, and posting from there
for 4 days. Didn't want this to get lost in the cracks.


OK - I have posted a minute or so he

http://81.174.169.10/odds/allegro.mp3

The group are happy, but I think there is a great deal
more church audible than there ought to be. Next time I
will get in closer, or perhaps get them to try a calmer
venue - this place is more suited to either the right
kind of music (if you know what I mean) or a larger
ensemble that can better match the reverb.

Still, as a first outing for those mics, it will do.

Agreed.

First thing I noticed was that there was relatively high hiss. Any broken
steam pipes in that room? ;-)


Didn't notice, but that is definitely acoustic in origin - no way the
electronics put that in there.

Seems like a very sophisticated MP3 coder.


Standard one in Audition - MP3Pro at 224k.

Musically - I would be very happy if my players were that good (or that
numerous!).

They are a bit of a treat, aren't they? That's what comes of living in
this part of London, I'm happy to say.

Room sonics seem to be very cold.

Yup - definitely.

My first shot at remastering quickly moved to a uniform slope (logarithmic)
filter that was +10 dB at 20 Hz, and -20 at 20 Khz. That brought out too
much room noise, so I put in a break down to -30 dB starting at 200 Hz.


Far too dull-sounding for my liking. I'm just knocking 8dB off the top
end, using a splined FFT breaking at 1500Hz. I remember how it
actually sounded, and the recording is actually pretty faithful - just
too bright for comfort.

Bright room eh? ;-)


Yes - I'll take along a thousand or so bean bag chairs next time. They
should sort it out. :-)

d

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