Well, they've arrived and my initial tests - just me talking - are
impressive. My neighbour is having some scaffolding put up, and while
I was chatting a pole clanged against something. On playback I was
convinced while I was listening that it happened again.

I am probably recording some music over the weekend, so I'll report
back what I find.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
Well, they've arrived


:-)


and my initial tests - just me talking - are
impressive.


Watch out, you'll have Plowie on yer neck....


My neighbour is having some scaffolding put up, and while
I was chatting a pole clanged against something. On playback I was
convinced while I was listening that it happened again.


:-)

Ho! Have I not had that! One of the very first recordings of Swim on the
joanna has the sound of a cup being 'carefully' put down in the kitchen
(me). The queer thing is that when it comes out on my computer speakers it
still sounds like it's coming from the kitchen!! I worked it out - the angle
of the piano recording setup to the kitchen is pretty much the same as the
comuter speakers to the kitchen, only slewed through through about 90 deg.,
IYSWIM!! So the 'relationship' is maintained! (If I can find it, I will post
it - it should soumd like it's off to the right and *behind* you!


I am probably recording some music over the weekend, so I'll report
back what I find.


Sound clips and pix *will* be required and the thing that jabbed me (after
Arny's tip-off) was the 'ultra-low noise' claim - any chance of a comparison
with them and your Sennheisers?

"Don Pearce" wrote in message

Well, they've arrived and my initial tests - just me
talking - are impressive. My neighbour is having some
scaffolding put up, and while I was chatting a pole
clanged against something. On playback I was convinced
while I was listening that it happened again.

I am probably recording some music over the weekend, so
I'll report back what I find.

IME, they are most natural and transparent when some distance (3 feet or
more) from the acoustic source. If you use them close up, response rises at
both ends of the spectrum.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:04:09 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
Well, they've arrived


:-)


and my initial tests - just me talking - are
impressive.


Watch out, you'll have Plowie on yer neck....


My neighbour is having some scaffolding put up, and while
I was chatting a pole clanged against something. On playback I was
convinced while I was listening that it happened again.


:-)

Ho! Have I not had that! One of the very first recordings of Swim on the
joanna has the sound of a cup being 'carefully' put down in the kitchen
(me). The queer thing is that when it comes out on my computer speakers it
still sounds like it's coming from the kitchen!! I worked it out - the angle
of the piano recording setup to the kitchen is pretty much the same as the
comuter speakers to the kitchen, only slewed through through about 90 deg.,
IYSWIM!! So the 'relationship' is maintained! (If I can find it, I will post
it - it should soumd like it's off to the right and *behind* you!


Quite so - way outside the stereo field. But that is just mind over
matter; listening again I could hear it was really coming from the
expected spot.


I am probably recording some music over the weekend, so I'll report
back what I find.


Sound clips and pix *will* be required and the thing that jabbed me (after
Arny's tip-off) was the 'ultra-low noise' claim - any chance of a comparison
with them and your Sennheisers?



Pic here - set up for ORTF, which is what I propose for this weekend.
I don't think this one will be suitable for noise comparisons, but
they will come.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/nt1a_ortf.jpg

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:13:09 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message

Well, they've arrived and my initial tests - just me
talking - are impressive. My neighbour is having some
scaffolding put up, and while I was chatting a pole
clanged against something. On playback I was convinced
while I was listening that it happened again.

I am probably recording some music over the weekend, so
I'll report back what I find.

IME, they are most natural and transparent when some distance (3 feet or
more) from the acoustic source. If you use them close up, response rises at
both ends of the spectrum.


I've already noticed the bottom end lift. The weekend job is a string
quartet in a church - instruments in an arc, and the mic about six to
eight feet from all of them.

What do you think about hole-in-the-middle? Is it too ambitious to use
the full 110 degrees with these? I feel unsure and I may shut them
down to about 90. The only thing in favour here is that no instrument
is actually going to be centre-stage.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:04:09 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Ho! Have I not had that! One of the very first recordings of Swim on the
joanna has the sound of a cup being 'carefully' put down in the kitchen
(me). The queer thing is that when it comes out on my computer speakers it
still sounds like it's coming from the kitchen!! I worked it out - the
angle
of the piano recording setup to the kitchen is pretty much the same as the
comuter speakers to the kitchen, only slewed through through about 90
deg.,
IYSWIM!! So the 'relationship' is maintained! (If I can find it, I will
post
it - it should soumd like it's off to the right and *behind* you!


Quite so - way outside the stereo field. But that is just mind over
matter; listening again I could hear it was really coming from the
expected spot.



Sure, same here but I think I have blown that recording anyway - if it crops
up again I will post it, even if well out of context.


Pic here - set up for ORTF, which is what I propose for this weekend.
I don't think this one will be suitable for noise comparisons, but
they will come.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/nt1a_ortf.jpg


Lovely, but isn't that a bit scary if you are worried about a possible hole
in the middle and that's going to be a *real, live session*...?? Or will you
have had the opportunity to check that setup by then?

Also, the shockmounts don't seem overly large - have you done any 'tapping
about' to check them for effectiveness?

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:24:07 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:04:09 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Ho! Have I not had that! One of the very first recordings of Swim on the
joanna has the sound of a cup being 'carefully' put down in the kitchen
(me). The queer thing is that when it comes out on my computer speakers it
still sounds like it's coming from the kitchen!! I worked it out - the
angle
of the piano recording setup to the kitchen is pretty much the same as the
comuter speakers to the kitchen, only slewed through through about 90
deg.,
IYSWIM!! So the 'relationship' is maintained! (If I can find it, I will
post
it - it should soumd like it's off to the right and *behind* you!


Quite so - way outside the stereo field. But that is just mind over
matter; listening again I could hear it was really coming from the
expected spot.



Sure, same here but I think I have blown that recording anyway - if it crops
up again I will post it, even if well out of context.


Pic here - set up for ORTF, which is what I propose for this weekend.
I don't think this one will be suitable for noise comparisons, but
they will come.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/nt1a_ortf.jpg


Lovely, but isn't that a bit scary if you are worried about a possible hole
in the middle and that's going to be a *real, live session*...?? Or will you
have had the opportunity to check that setup by then?

Also, the shockmounts don't seem overly large - have you done any 'tapping
about' to check them for effectiveness?




I'm going the coward's route and setting them at 90 degrees. I am
certain of a good recording that way. The shock mounts are pretty
standard things - I'm sure they'll be ok . Not much time for playing
over the next couple of days. Spending the day with Ofcom tomorrow (I
was a serial killer in a past life, apparently).

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:24:07 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Lovely, but isn't that a bit scary if you are worried about a possible
hole
in the middle and that's going to be a *real, live session*...?? Or will
you
have had the opportunity to check that setup by then?

Also, the shockmounts don't seem overly large - have you done any 'tapping
about' to check them for effectiveness?




I'm going the coward's route and setting them at 90 degrees. I am
certain of a good recording that way. The shock mounts are pretty
standard things - I'm sure they'll be ok .



OK.


Not much time for playing
over the next couple of days. Spending the day with Ofcom tomorrow (I
was a serial killer in a past life, apparently).


:-)


Apropos of nothing here. particularly - this just in:

---------------------------------------------------
Hello Keith,

I have just won an auction on ebay france for a couple of EX-3s (blowing my
budget by several hundred Euros) and saw your infiedlio page...any chance of
getting hold of some plans? If it's all 18mm then that will simplify things
a lot from my end. I am hoping to get a local carpenter to do the woodwork
(I am just awful at it unless it's really easy and I live in a little flat).

cheers,

Peter Spencer
(in France)
--------------------------------------------------


I get no end of this sort of thing - really need to get my *enthusiasm*
under control, don't I....??? :-)

(Posted here because the group's owner will get the arse again and won't be
able to resist another little *pronunciamento* to his followers....!! ;-)

In article , Don Pearce
writes
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:04:09 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
Well, they've arrived


:-)


and my initial tests - just me talking - are
impressive.


Watch out, you'll have Plowie on yer neck....


My neighbour is having some scaffolding put up, and while
I was chatting a pole clanged against something. On playback I was
convinced while I was listening that it happened again.


:-)

Ho! Have I not had that! One of the very first recordings of Swim on the
joanna has the sound of a cup being 'carefully' put down in the kitchen
(me). The queer thing is that when it comes out on my computer speakers it
still sounds like it's coming from the kitchen!! I worked it out - the angle
of the piano recording setup to the kitchen is pretty much the same as the
comuter speakers to the kitchen, only slewed through through about 90 deg.,
IYSWIM!! So the 'relationship' is maintained! (If I can find it, I will post
it - it should soumd like it's off to the right and *behind* you!


Quite so - way outside the stereo field. But that is just mind over
matter; listening again I could hear it was really coming from the
expected spot.


I am probably recording some music over the weekend, so I'll report
back what I find.


Sound clips and pix *will* be required and the thing that jabbed me (after
Arny's tip-off) was the 'ultra-low noise' claim - any chance of a comparison
with them and your Sennheisers?



Pic here - set up for ORTF,

ORTF???.. Wasn't that some Belgian broadcaster?..

which is what I propose for this weekend.
I don't think this one will be suitable for noise comparisons, but
they will come.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/nt1a_ortf.jpg

d


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Tony Sayer

In article , Don Pearce
writes
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:24:07 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:04:09 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Ho! Have I not had that! One of the very first recordings of Swim on the
joanna has the sound of a cup being 'carefully' put down in the kitchen
(me). The queer thing is that when it comes out on my computer speakers it
still sounds like it's coming from the kitchen!! I worked it out - the
angle
of the piano recording setup to the kitchen is pretty much the same as the
comuter speakers to the kitchen, only slewed through through about 90
deg.,
IYSWIM!! So the 'relationship' is maintained! (If I can find it, I will
post
it - it should soumd like it's off to the right and *behind* you!


Quite so - way outside the stereo field. But that is just mind over
matter; listening again I could hear it was really coming from the
expected spot.



Sure, same here but I think I have blown that recording anyway - if it crops
up again I will post it, even if well out of context.


Pic here - set up for ORTF, which is what I propose for this weekend.
I don't think this one will be suitable for noise comparisons, but
they will come.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/nt1a_ortf.jpg


Lovely, but isn't that a bit scary if you are worried about a possible hole
in the middle and that's going to be a *real, live session*...?? Or will you
have had the opportunity to check that setup by then?

Also, the shockmounts don't seem overly large - have you done any 'tapping
about' to check them for effectiveness?




I'm going the coward's route and setting them at 90 degrees. I am
certain of a good recording that way. The shock mounts are pretty
standard things - I'm sure they'll be ok . Not much time for playing
over the next couple of days. Spending the day with Ofcom

What have U dun to deserve that;!....

tomorrow (I
was a serial killer in a past life, apparently).

d


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Tony Sayer