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BBC DAB Tx problem ?



 
 
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Old December 11th 06, 05:27 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
alexander.keys1
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Default BBC DAB Tx problem ?

Since Saturday 9th December there has been a weak signal on BBC
national services on DAB, where I live near the centre of Leicester.
Local services have not been affected. Also, they went off altogether
for a bit on Saturday.

I've tried calling BBC Reception Advice, but they say they don't know
of any transmitter problems.

According to the display on my set, it seems to be the 'Digital 1'
multiplex that is affected.

Anybody know what's happening?

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Old December 11th 06, 05:38 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
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"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
ups.com...
Since Saturday 9th December there has been a weak signal on BBC
national services on DAB, where I live near the centre of Leicester.
Local services have not been affected. Also, they went off altogether
for a bit on Saturday.

I've tried calling BBC Reception Advice, but they say they don't know
of any transmitter problems.

According to the display on my set, it seems to be the 'Digital 1'
multiplex that is affected.

Anybody know what's happening?

If you only knopw of one receiver that's affected, the chances are it's that
receiver or its aerial that are at fault.

Bill


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Old December 11th 06, 05:41 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
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"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
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I've tried calling BBC Reception Advice, but they say they don't know
of any transmitter problems.


So because they do not know they are going to do nothing, even though they
know now from you!
Is that the case?
--
Regards,
David

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Old December 11th 06, 05:43 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur,uk.sci.weather
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Default Air pressure and radio, was BBC DAB Tx problem ?


David wrote:
"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
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.

I've tried calling BBC Reception Advice, but they say they don't know
of any transmitter problems.


So because they do not know they are going to do nothing, even though they
know now from you!
Is that the case?
--
Regards,
David

Oh yeah, now I remember, they also said it might be due to 'low air
pressure', when I phoned before it was normal at approx. 1000
millibars, but still a weak signal, over the weekend it did get down to
980 mb. I thought DAB was immune to propagation variations due to the
use of 'Single Frequency Networks', and anyway it's *high* pressure
that causes problems due to refraction?

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Old December 11th 06, 05:51 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
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Bill Wright wrote:
"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
ups.com...

According to the display on my set, it seems to be the 'Digital 1'
multiplex that is affected.

If you only knopw of one receiver that's affected, the chances are it's that
receiver or its aerial that are at fault.

Bill


It's been OK up till now, and other transmitters/multiplexes are coming
through normally. My set is a Roberts 'Gemini 15' portable with rod
aerial fully extended BTW.

I have noticed before that the signal strength for BBC national DAB
varies, I used to listen at a previous workplace, also near central
Leicester, some days it was fine, others it would keep breaking up.

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Old December 11th 06, 05:53 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur,uk.sci.weather
DAB sounds worse than FM
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alexander.keys1 wrote:
David wrote:
"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
ups.com...
.

I've tried calling BBC Reception Advice, but they say they don't
know of any transmitter problems.


So because they do not know they are going to do nothing, even
though they know now from you!
Is that the case?
--
Regards,
David

Oh yeah, now I remember, they also said it might be due to 'low air
pressure', when I phoned before it was normal at approx. 1000
millibars, but still a weak signal, over the weekend it did get down
to 980 mb. I thought DAB was immune to propagation variations due to
the use of 'Single Frequency Networks', and anyway it's *high*
pressure that causes problems due to refraction?



Lift conditions can make signals travel farther than they would otherwise
travel, which causes problems with DAB reception due to signals arriving
"too late" (technically: arriving with a delay relative to the first strong
signal path that is longer than the guard interval, which causes
interference).


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php


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Old December 11th 06, 06:48 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
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alexander.keys1 wrote:

Anybody know what's happening?


Yep, Solar Flare plus large Troppo.

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Old December 11th 06, 06:55 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
G1LVN
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Bill Wright wrote:
If you only knopw of one receiver that's affected, the chances are it's that
receiver or its aerial that are at fault.

Bill


Excuse me for butting in, but no-one is at fault, except you and your
perception that everything should be gold plated and delivered by hand
to your QTH.

You have a lot to learn.

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Old December 11th 06, 07:17 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
DAB sounds worse than FM
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G1LVN wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
If you only knopw of one receiver that's affected, the chances are
it's that receiver or its aerial that are at fault.

Bill


Excuse me for butting in, but no-one is at fault, except you and your
perception that everything should be gold plated and delivered by hand
to your QTH.



Ignoring your dislike for the colour gold and white van men, could you point
out what is wrong with the logic of this sentence:

"If you only know of one receiver that's affected, the chances are it's that
receiver or its aerial that are at fault."


You have a lot to learn.



ManuelYou know nothing.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php


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Old December 12th 06, 12:34 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,alt.radio.digital,uk.rec.audio,uk.radio.amateur
Paul Sherwin
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:55:43 -0800, G1LVN wrote:


Bill Wright wrote:
If you only knopw of one receiver that's affected, the chances are it's that
receiver or its aerial that are at fault.

Bill


Excuse me for butting in, but no-one is at fault, except you and your
perception that everything should be gold plated and delivered by hand
to your QTH.

You have a lot to learn.


There's not much Bill doesn't know about VHF and UHF broadcast reception
mate :-) He's not the one with a lot to learn.

Paul
 




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