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RPS October 16th 03 05:57 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Personally, if the poster likes the BC1, I'm sure that he'd find the
current Spendor and Proac ranges to be 'more of the same', but
generally cleaned up and with tighter bass.


I do like the BC1's. I selected them 20+ years ago after agonizing
comparisons involving competing models form KEF, B&W, B&O, Rogers,
Canton, and several American companies. (Since then I have been happy
enough not to search any more. My trips to audio shops have been for
other components, or with friends on their listening sessions. This did
expose me to several very good and very expensive speakers, but nothing
I would/could consider for myself.)

I appreciate your response, this is just the kind of recommendation I
need.

Do you have any opinion on the Dynaudio and new Quad range?

In any brand, what would be the expected price range for a speaker that
would be "a step up" from the BC1's, if the concept makes sense to you?

I envy the schedule I had during my earlier purchase. Schedule of
classes often left entire days "free". I lived in NYC and had to travel
to England a couple of times for family reasons. Chicago is not exactly
wilderness but it does not match the "NYC + London" combination. That
and time make it essential for me to work much more systematically,
with a short list of brands to explore.

PS. Given that speakers are one thing the British (Japanese) have the
reputation of doing (not doing) right, I find it interesting that a
British audiophile should have owned Yamaha speakers; they must have
been quite good!

RPS

Dave Plowman October 16th 03 05:58 PM

WFMT signal and Spendor BC1 speakers
 
In article ,
RPS wrote:
That's what I thought, but over the years I have listened to WFMT on a
large number of systems in various high-end stores in this area and the
effect was not always present. Of course it could be anywhere between
my antenna, tuner, amp, and the speaker, but it has persisted through
one change of tuner and amp.


A small amount of multi-path will give this effect while going virtually
unnoticed on most music.

--
*Remember not to forget that which you do not need to know.*

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman October 16th 03 05:58 PM

WFMT signal and Spendor BC1 speakers
 
In article ,
RPS wrote:
That's what I thought, but over the years I have listened to WFMT on a
large number of systems in various high-end stores in this area and the
effect was not always present. Of course it could be anywhere between
my antenna, tuner, amp, and the speaker, but it has persisted through
one change of tuner and amp.


A small amount of multi-path will give this effect while going virtually
unnoticed on most music.

--
*Remember not to forget that which you do not need to know.*

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Anthony Edwards October 16th 03 06:22 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:35:55 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

If one did, however, then the obvious first stop is the current
Spendor range, then perhaps Proac.


I am awaiting with mounting excitement the arrival of my new ATC Active
10s and CA2 pre-amp next week!

--
Anthony Edwards


Anthony Edwards October 16th 03 06:22 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:35:55 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

If one did, however, then the obvious first stop is the current
Spendor range, then perhaps Proac.


I am awaiting with mounting excitement the arrival of my new ATC Active
10s and CA2 pre-amp next week!

--
Anthony Edwards


Stewart Pinkerton October 16th 03 08:33 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:22:35 -0000, Anthony Edwards
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:35:55 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

If one did, however, then the obvious first stop is the current
Spendor range, then perhaps Proac.


I am awaiting with mounting excitement the arrival of my new ATC Active
10s and CA2 pre-amp next week!


Entirely different balance. Certainly to my taste, but likely not to
anyone who is happy with the BC1.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton October 16th 03 08:33 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:22:35 -0000, Anthony Edwards
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:35:55 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

If one did, however, then the obvious first stop is the current
Spendor range, then perhaps Proac.


I am awaiting with mounting excitement the arrival of my new ATC Active
10s and CA2 pre-amp next week!


Entirely different balance. Certainly to my taste, but likely not to
anyone who is happy with the BC1.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton October 16th 03 08:33 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:46 GMT, RPS wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Personally, if the poster likes the BC1, I'm sure that he'd find the
current Spendor and Proac ranges to be 'more of the same', but
generally cleaned up and with tighter bass.


I do like the BC1's. I selected them 20+ years ago after agonizing
comparisons involving competing models form KEF, B&W, B&O, Rogers,
Canton, and several American companies. (Since then I have been happy
enough not to search any more. My trips to audio shops have been for
other components, or with friends on their listening sessions. This did
expose me to several very good and very expensive speakers, but nothing
I would/could consider for myself.)

I appreciate your response, this is just the kind of recommendation I
need.

Do you have any opinion on the Dynaudio and new Quad range?


The Dynaudio range is IMHO absolutely superb, but may be a little too
'in yer face' for someone who is happy with the slightly 'rose-tinted'
balance of the BC1.

In any brand, what would be the expected price range for a speaker that
would be "a step up" from the BC1's, if the concept makes sense to you?


You wouldn't need to spend more than £1,000 to obtain an *objectively*
superior speaker, but to get something with the same warm balance as
the BC1, but with the clarity of modern speakers, might take twice the
money and a *lot* of careful searching. There is a *huge* range of
highly competent speakers on the market these days, in the critical
£1,000 to £3,000 range. They all sound different, and only one will
the 'best' for you.

I envy the schedule I had during my earlier purchase. Schedule of
classes often left entire days "free". I lived in NYC and had to travel
to England a couple of times for family reasons. Chicago is not exactly
wilderness but it does not match the "NYC + London" combination. That
and time make it essential for me to work much more systematically,
with a short list of brands to explore.


Ahhhh, the farty city must indeed seem like one of the inner circles
of Dante's Inferno, after the stunning cultural combination of NYC and
London!

PS. Given that speakers are one thing the British (Japanese) have the
reputation of doing (not doing) right, I find it interesting that a
British audiophile should have owned Yamaha speakers; they must have
been quite good!


They were extremely good. Not neutral by any means, but always clean,
exciting and dramatic - 'musical' in the best sense.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton October 16th 03 08:33 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:46 GMT, RPS wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Personally, if the poster likes the BC1, I'm sure that he'd find the
current Spendor and Proac ranges to be 'more of the same', but
generally cleaned up and with tighter bass.


I do like the BC1's. I selected them 20+ years ago after agonizing
comparisons involving competing models form KEF, B&W, B&O, Rogers,
Canton, and several American companies. (Since then I have been happy
enough not to search any more. My trips to audio shops have been for
other components, or with friends on their listening sessions. This did
expose me to several very good and very expensive speakers, but nothing
I would/could consider for myself.)

I appreciate your response, this is just the kind of recommendation I
need.

Do you have any opinion on the Dynaudio and new Quad range?


The Dynaudio range is IMHO absolutely superb, but may be a little too
'in yer face' for someone who is happy with the slightly 'rose-tinted'
balance of the BC1.

In any brand, what would be the expected price range for a speaker that
would be "a step up" from the BC1's, if the concept makes sense to you?


You wouldn't need to spend more than £1,000 to obtain an *objectively*
superior speaker, but to get something with the same warm balance as
the BC1, but with the clarity of modern speakers, might take twice the
money and a *lot* of careful searching. There is a *huge* range of
highly competent speakers on the market these days, in the critical
£1,000 to £3,000 range. They all sound different, and only one will
the 'best' for you.

I envy the schedule I had during my earlier purchase. Schedule of
classes often left entire days "free". I lived in NYC and had to travel
to England a couple of times for family reasons. Chicago is not exactly
wilderness but it does not match the "NYC + London" combination. That
and time make it essential for me to work much more systematically,
with a short list of brands to explore.


Ahhhh, the farty city must indeed seem like one of the inner circles
of Dante's Inferno, after the stunning cultural combination of NYC and
London!

PS. Given that speakers are one thing the British (Japanese) have the
reputation of doing (not doing) right, I find it interesting that a
British audiophile should have owned Yamaha speakers; they must have
been quite good!


They were extremely good. Not neutral by any means, but always clean,
exciting and dramatic - 'musical' in the best sense.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Dave Plowman October 16th 03 10:25 PM

Upgrading from an old Spendor BC1
 
In article ,
RPS wrote:
PS. Given that speakers are one thing the British (Japanese) have the
reputation of doing (not doing) right, I find it interesting that a
British audiophile should have owned Yamaha speakers; they must have
been quite good!


The NS-1000Ms were a bit of a rose among thorns. ;-)

--
*Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn


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