"Bob Latham" wrote in message


There you go. Now tell me I'm an idiot without a clue and
all amplifiers sound the same and the dealer stitched up
my mate. Actually, if that's what you're going to say,
save yourself the bother.

As usual Bob, you've missed the point of 1,000s of posts on the topic. Your
error was not that you were ignorance of the well-known fact that all amps
sound the same, because that is not a well-known fact.

In fact your statement about amps sounding the same is a straw man that you
regurgitated so that you could premptively dismiss anybody who disagreed
with you on the grounds that good amps probably don't sound all that
different.

No, the problem is that you base a far-reaching claim on so-called listening
tests that were probably utter crap. They appear to be utter crap because
there is no indication of proper level-matching, no indication of any checks
to see that the amps are proper representatives of their make and model, and
above all, no indication of any bias controls.

Speaking as someone that has done more level-matched, bias-controlled
comparisons of audio products, over a longer period of time than almost any
living human, I'm here to say that good amps just might sound a little
different under certain critical circumstances, but that the kind of
differences you have listed out are no doubt due to the slapdash means you
seem to use to compare amplifiers. Garbage in, garbage out!

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Bob Latham" wrote in message


There you go. Now tell me I'm an idiot without a clue and
all amplifiers sound the same and the dealer stitched up
my mate. Actually, if that's what you're going to say,
save yourself the bother.

As usual Bob, you've missed the point of 1,000s of posts on the topic.
Your error was not that you were ignorance of the well-known fact that all
amps sound the same, because that is not a well-known fact.

In fact your statement about amps sounding the same is a straw man that
you regurgitated so that you could premptively dismiss anybody who
disagreed with you on the grounds that good amps probably don't sound all
that different.

No, the problem is that you base a far-reaching claim on so-called
listening tests that were probably utter crap. They appear to be utter
crap because there is no indication of proper level-matching, no
indication of any checks to see that the amps are proper representatives
of their make and model, and above all, no indication of any bias
controls.

Speaking as someone that has done more level-matched, bias-controlled
comparisons of audio products, over a longer period of time than almost
any living human, I'm here to say that good amps just might sound a little
different under certain critical circumstances, but that the kind of
differences you have listed out are no doubt due to the slapdash means you
seem to use to compare amplifiers. Garbage in, garbage out!



Ay oop, mind yer backs - Arny's trying to wipe his recently-endowed
'slapdash' bogey off....!! :-)