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Pioneer PL-512 playing too fast....



 
 
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Old January 16th 07, 07:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Les Hemmings
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Default Pioneer PL-512 playing too fast....

Mike Coatham wrote:
Les Hemmings wrote:
Further to the "getting back into vinyl" saga....

Now have it sounding great.... but it's playing too fast. Not by
much, just enough to make things sound a tad hurried with
accompanying pitch shift. What on earth could make it play fast?

It's not had a new belt for years, it's been stored unused for 7
years. Could this be the problem? It's the last thing I can do
myself I think without calling in outside help. If I can find a belt
that is! Any other ideas chaps?

Les

I don't suppose by any chance that this deck is ex USA with a 60hz
motor?


It played fine a decade ago. It was second hand when I got it in the
eighties but it was a good solid deck.

Hang on! Didn't the uk change from 50hertz to 40 hertz to bring us into line
with europe a while ago?

The belts on ebay have no "buy it now" option. And these people need specs
http://www.batteries-online.co.uk/p/...le+Belts__.htm Looking for
a place I can order immediately and select by model....

Les


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Old January 16th 07, 08:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Pioneer PL-512 playing too fast....

No wonder this group is described as 'Audio'.
'Hi-Fi' it ain't...
....LOL

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Old January 17th 07, 03:37 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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frankwm wrote:
No wonder this group is described as 'Audio'.
'Hi-Fi' it ain't...
...LOL


Deck was free from a mate many years ago, speakers (Pioneer twin bass
reflex, look awful but sound ok) £15 from a tat shop, amp (Sony TA-F3A) £25
from a car boot. PC (homebuilt) goes into the amp too, as does a cheap
Phillips cassette player (£20 new). Guitar, keyboard often goes through the
amp via the PC as needed. As does HF radio and VHF/UHF scanner.

I can play just about any audio, video format, listen to radio frequencies
from long wave to microwave and jam along to stuff with the guitar with
reaonable reproduction, working on the vinyl as you know, it'll get there
though. Bearing in mind that my lp's have all seen better days after many
excellent nights debauching in the dark with scratches, dust and the odd
beer spillage it's really not worth spending real money on something that
will reproduce clicks, clonks and hiss in stunning Hi-Fi....

This whole setup does what i need, I have a very small fron room so power is
not an issue really. If needed i can use DSP to fiddle about with the output
of any or all of my sources. And it really hasn't cost me a great deal. If
it goes "phut!" tomorrow i've not lost much. I never did claim it was Hi-Fi
anyway. I don't expect it for £60 worth of kit. "Recreational Audio" seemed
to sum up what I do with this kit so that's why I posted here.

Les

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Old January 17th 07, 09:58 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Although eBay is somewhat derided - (and, if I weren't in the sticks,
wouldn't necessarily be my first choice - also there's the tenner+
delivery to factor in) it's quite possible to get Stunning HiFi for
almost nothing.
The LP playback side is rather expensive, I grant, but last night was
listening to one of my systems (1983 Linn Sondek cost 160 inc
arm/cartridge - not eBay)
+ 100% New absolutely Audiophile (1982) JVC A-X5 amp- 70w+/ch - almost
400quid new - 31quid / JVC T-X900L tuner 300 new - for 25 - JVC KD-A5
cassette - 100% new - 14quid - nearly 500quid in 1980..Cambridge R50
speakers (weigh almost a cwt each..) - excellent condition/mint drive
units (new Ribbon Tweeters) 190quid in 1973 - cost me 50, all in
(could've got 'em for 30...).
You'd have to pay a small fortune 'new' for gear of that quality now
(JVC could be top quality those days - hardly saleable on eBay
though..)
My most recent cassette deck was a mint 1985 Akai GX-R88 - 25 quid -
450quid machine. The accompanying manual/huge service manual was almost
worth what I paid !

Personally, I'd look around for a Direct Drive TT (the only 'type' I
don't have) - but not the cheapie stuff...however, the state of the LPs
is a factor - as you mention.
MiniDisc is my favourite - and, yep, I've got the 'best' Sony ES decks
for peanuts - even the discs can turn up dirt-cheapie - ie; new/sealed
MD80s - recently bought over 100 for 25quid - *inc p/p*...

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Old January 16th 07, 08:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Les Hemmings" wrote in message
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Hang on! Didn't the uk change from 50hertz to 40 hertz to bring us into
line with europe a while ago?



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Old January 16th 07, 11:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Les Hemmings" writes:

Hang on! Didn't the uk change from 50hertz to 40 hertz to bring us
into line with europe a while ago?


Nope -- Europe's also 50Hz. We did change mains *voltage* tolerance
from 240V +/- 6% to 230V +10%/-6% to match European standards in 1995,
but in practice the mains voltage in most places falls comfortably
inside the new range already, so nothing much has changed.

Changing mains frequency would mean an awful lot of people would need
to buy new clocks...

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Old January 17th 07, 03:09 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Les Hemmings
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Default Pioneer PL-512 playing too fast....

Adam Sampson wrote:
"Les Hemmings" writes:

Hang on! Didn't the uk change from 50hertz to 40 hertz to bring us
into line with europe a while ago?


Nope -- Europe's also 50Hz. We did change mains *voltage* tolerance
from 240V +/- 6% to 230V +10%/-6% to match European standards in 1995,
but in practice the mains voltage in most places falls comfortably
inside the new range already, so nothing much has changed.

Changing mains frequency would mean an awful lot of people would need
to buy new clocks...


And moan about poor performance with their hair clippers, shavers etc.

That's what I mis-remembered as a frequency change then... do people still
use ac to regulate clocks? Even after quartz came out! What is the
tolerance for the 50Hertz now then?

Thanks for the info though.... much appreciated.

L


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"That's 10 times I've explained binary to you. I won't tell you a 3rd
time!"


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