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Crossover questions.....



 
 
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Old January 17th 07, 06:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rob
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Default Crossover questions.....

Keith G wrote:
"Don Pearce" wrote


Without being able to trace the circuits I can't say for definite, but
that looks like a second order crossover. Are those chokes wound on
ferrite? If they are, this crossover has a power limit set by the
magnetic saturation of the ferrite. Your other one is a better way of
making a crossover choke.



OK, here's a pic of both sides of that crossover:

No, here's a couple of pix showing each side of that crossover:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/topside.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/underside.JPG


The game plan is as follows:

Dr Rob very kindly gave me these speakers

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/donor.JPG

which sound fine but are easily beat by most (all, actually) of the other
spreakers I have here, due to a lack of any bass at all. I want to pull the
drivers (T27s and H3310s) out of 'em and use them in these boxes:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/boxes.JPG

as they are a little larger and have easy, front access - see the original
drivers on a nice, easily removed front baffle he

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/originals.JPG


(Rob - speak now if you would rather have these back instead of me
cannabalising them!)


Go for it Keith!

They are my firstborn - I auditioned them in a Nottingham hifi shop in
1982 next to some AR18s and Wharfedale wotnots. I loved them for quite a
while - superb upper bass/mid and a nice treble from the T27s. I found
deep bass fine - certainly better than the other smallish budget
speakers of the time. The make is/was LNB, and they were about 100UKP (I
paid 40; mean then as now). On bass - check they're wired properly from
the xover to the terminals. I lent them to a friend for about 5 years,
and he fiddled about with them and put some different terminals on. When
I got them back they sounded terrible - on closer investigation he'd
wired them up incorrectly. I may have buggered that up as well ;-)



The idea is to fit the drivers into the boxes (which I will modify hugely
with a second skin and some crossbracing) using the Ruark crossover, leaving
Rob's 'donor' speakers as intact as possible (for a possible
reversal/restoration) and trying a few different drivers (if necessary)
until I can convince myself I have a pair of unique, stunning 'homebrew'
standmounters that blow away any commercial equivalent at many times the
price.....

;-)

(Or find, for only a little work, if I'm ****ing in the breeze!!)


Live the dream Keith :-)

You can bin them so far as I'm concerned. I thought you might be
interested in the xovers and the T27s. I thought the design was
intriguing (a compact transmission line) at the time, but in the real
world they can't hold a candle to Dynaudio 42s IMO. One last lease of
life in '25th Anniversary Edition' guise won't hurt :-)

Rob
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Old January 17th 07, 06:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default Crossover questions.....


"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:




(Rob - speak now if you would rather have these back instead of me
cannabalising them!)


Go for it Keith!



Cheers Rob!

:-)



They are my firstborn - I auditioned them in a Nottingham hifi shop in
1982 next to some AR18s and Wharfedale wotnots. I loved them for quite a
while - superb upper bass/mid and a nice treble from the T27s. I found
deep bass fine - certainly better than the other smallish budget speakers
of the time. The make is/was LNB, and they were about 100UKP (I paid 40;
mean then as now). On bass - check they're wired properly from the xover
to the terminals. I lent them to a friend for about 5 years, and he
fiddled about with them and put some different terminals on. When I got
them back they sounded terrible - on closer investigation he'd wired them
up incorrectly. I may have buggered that up as well ;-)



For now I'll just lift the drivers to try them in the gash rig I intend
trying!

(Reversible, if need be, in the short term...!!)


(Or find, for only a little work, if I'm ****ing in the breeze!!)


Live the dream Keith :-)

You can bin them so far as I'm concerned. I thought you might be
interested in the xovers and the T27s. I thought the design was intriguing
(a compact transmission line) at the time, but in the real world they
can't hold a candle to Dynaudio 42s IMO. One last lease of life in '25th
Anniversary Edition' guise won't hurt :-)




It'll be interesting to try and get a decent get a squeak out of 'em - I'm
never one to let science stand in the way of a bit of 'trilanerra' but the
only way I could ever learn is by doing/sweeping up the mess/doing again &c.
&c....!!

;-)







 




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