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Keith G May 14th 07 12:44 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Since you are obviously a vinyl lover, can you explain why on most
of
my
large collection of LPs there is a very noticeable change in audio
quality
between the start and end of the LP?



Sure, you've obviously got *no idea* how to set up a
turntable/tonearm/cartridge.....


I was probably setting up quality arms and cartridges in the days you
bopped to your Dansette.



Supposition and conjecture as always (your SOP) - I never owned a
Dansette...




Keith G May 14th 07 12:50 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Define loudness as you mean it.



OK, as I mean it: All my sources are routed through an SS control amp
which has two 'pre outs' - one goes to a valve power amp with a
volume
control on my Lowthers, the other goes to an SS power amp (no volume
control on the inputs I'm using) on multiway TLs. To match any given
'sound level' at the same distance (loudness) I have to *turn down*
the
volume control on the valve amp - say about a third of the way from
full
volume. IOW, with both power amps at max volume (no attenuation),
switching from the SS to the valves (even only 9 Watts' worth)
results
in a tremendous increase in loudness from the valves/horns.


Does that do it for you??


Heh heh. It just shows your complete lack of understanding of basic
electronics.



You asked me to describe (compative) loudness as I meant it - I did. You
want to twist that (incorrectly, as ever) into me not knowing the
'electronics' involved, be my guest...

(In any case, I have often stated that my knowledge of electronics is at
the 'it's a capacitor if has the phrase "not a resistor" stamped on it'
level and yet I am able to build or repair electronics equipment, if and
when I want....??)

Get a life (or a job) Plowie.....



Bet you look at car speedos too to see which is the fastest...



I thought Speedos were swimming trunks...??



--
*The most wasted day of all is one in which we have not laughed.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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Keith G May 14th 07 12:52 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
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*They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.



Ooh!! Another one! Have you turned up the 'relevancy settings' or
summat??




Dave Plowman London SW
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I had hoped with your new Vista operating system that you boasted
about
earlier you might have learned how to use the software...



That'll be the day....




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*Born free - taxed to death *

Dave Plowman
London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




Dave Plowman (News) May 14th 07 12:59 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Sure, you've obviously got *no idea* how to set up a
turntable/tonearm/cartridge.....


I was probably setting up quality arms and cartridges in the days you
bopped to your Dansette.



Supposition and conjecture as always (your SOP) - I never owned a
Dansette...


Merely countering your conjecture that I have no idea about setting up an
arm/cartridge combination with another, dear Keith.

But answer the main point. Are you stating you have never heard a
difference in quality between the start and end of an LP - on the most
perfectly set up record player?

--
*Sleep with a photographer and watch things develop

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) May 14th 07 01:00 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(In any case, I have often stated that my knowledge of electronics is at
the 'it's a capacitor if has the phrase "not a resistor" stamped on it'
level and yet I am able to build or repair electronics equipment, if and
when I want....??)


Good grief.

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*Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G May 14th 07 01:26 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Sure, you've obviously got *no idea* how to set up a
turntable/tonearm/cartridge.....

I was probably setting up quality arms and cartridges in the days
you
bopped to your Dansette.



Supposition and conjecture as always (your SOP) - I never owned a
Dansette...


Merely countering your conjecture that I have no idea about setting up
an
arm/cartridge combination with another, dear Keith.


No, you have provided enough evidence on this group to make that a
certainty...



But answer the main point.



Say 'please'....



Are you stating you have never heard a
difference in quality between the start and end of an LP - on the most
perfectly set up record player?

--
*Sleep with a photographer and watch things develop

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




Keith G May 14th 07 01:27 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(In any case, I have often stated that my knowledge of electronics is
at
the 'it's a capacitor if has the phrase "not a resistor" stamped on
it'
level and yet I am able to build or repair electronics equipment, if
and
when I want....??)


Good grief.




My amps work (better than some made by *experts* it would appear) and so
do my repairs...

Deal with it....





--
*Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




Keith G May 14th 07 03:18 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 

"Bob Latham" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Since you are obviously a vinyl lover, can you explain why on most of
my
large collection of LPs there is a very noticeable change in audio
quality between the start and end of the LP?


Have you done a double blind test? You need to get the same track
pressed
at 2 or 3 places on different discs at the same amplitude and then
double
blind listen.

Okay, I know it happens in theory but I never noticed when I listened
for
it.




Neither has Plowie - he's just bull****ting...



Dave Plowman (News) May 14th 07 03:52 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Sure, you've obviously got *no idea* how to set up a
turntable/tonearm/cartridge.....

I was probably setting up quality arms and cartridges in the days
you
bopped to your Dansette.



Supposition and conjecture as always (your SOP) - I never owned a
Dansette...


Merely countering your conjecture that I have no idea about setting up
an arm/cartridge combination with another, dear Keith.


No, you have provided enough evidence on this group to make that a
certainty...


Have I? Examples? Or does the fact I hear distortion on LPs that you
obviously don't lead you to think it's my player that's at fault?



But answer the main point.



Say 'please'....


Certainly not.


Are you stating you have never heard a difference in quality between
the start and end of an LP - on the most perfectly set up record
player?


Your lack of reply speaks volumes.

--
*Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) May 14th 07 03:56 PM

how good are class D amplifiers?
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(In any case, I have often stated that my knowledge of electronics is
at
the 'it's a capacitor if has the phrase "not a resistor" stamped on
it'
level and yet I am able to build or repair electronics equipment, if
and
when I want....??)


Good grief.




My amps work (better than some made by *experts* it would appear) and so
do my repairs...


I'd need a definition of 'work' too. By your definition of loudness it
might provide a few laughs too.

Although how you manage to repair anything without being able to identify
component values defeats me.

Deal with it....


I only hope you're not repairing things for others. Too many fires around
already.

--
*I don't work here. I'm a consultant

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


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