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Andre Jute May 13th 07 10:33 PM

Intelligence and RIAA
 
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


Peter Wieck May 13th 07 11:52 PM

Intelligence and RIAA
 
On May 13, 5:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


It's waning crescent, so McCoy will be howling at its loudest. Nothing
of substance but lots of self-aggrandizing, self-serving lies.

Time to get its meds ajdusted... once again.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Clyde Slick May 13th 07 11:58 PM

Intelligence and RIAA
 

Peter Wieck a scris:
On May 13, 5:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


It's waning crescent, so McCoy will be howling at its loudest. Nothing
of substance but lots of self-aggrandizing, self-serving lies.

Time to get its meds ajdusted... once again.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


I thought you kill filed him.
uyou keep telling everyone else to do that.


Jon Yaeger May 14th 07 12:30 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 
in article , Andre Jute
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wrote on 5/13/07 6:33 PM:

Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music



Jute,

More bad fiction from you.

What media doesn't require some bit of tinkering? FM transmission has
pre-emphasis; tape has NAB equalization. Even your beloved CDs have a layer
for Reed-Solomon error correction, sampling rates, and D/A conversion.

Better stick to bike rides and pasta.

Jon


Peter Wieck May 14th 07 01:44 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 
On May 13, 6:58 pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
Peter Wieck a scris:





On May 13, 5:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.


Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


It's waning crescent, so McCoy will be howling at its loudest. Nothing
of substance but lots of self-aggrandizing, self-serving lies.


Time to get its meds ajdusted... once again.


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


I thought you kill filed him.
uyou keep telling everyone else to do that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


McCoy bears watching.... much as Kudzu, deer ticks or toadstools.
Unlike the Morein coterie, it pretends to have something to say.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Patrick Turner May 14th 07 01:45 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 


Andre Jute wrote:

Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


I doubt you really know what you are missing out upon.

But all the really keen musically eclectic ppl i know who have vast cd
collections
indicating a misspent middle age also still enjoy vinyl.
Most find that despite the vast sums they have spent on
cd players and transports, da converters, isolation platforms and
other widgets and gadgets, the humble black disk continues to delight,
and
give a greater sense of connection to the artist than any CD manages to
do.

I have been present at a number of AB comparisons where a CD version
and vinyl version of the same material from the same grand old master
tape
was being played, and we could switch from one to the other,
and vinyl seemed to have more to offer the audiophile subjectively.

Mind you, the whole analog recording process onto tape et all is a huge
bodge to.

So is FM stereo mulptiplexing.

Never mind the bodges, the sound does not seem to suffer, when they do
it right, IMHO.

Patrick Turner.

Andre Jute May 14th 07 02:17 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 

Patrick Turner wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


I doubt you really know what you are missing out upon.

But all the really keen musically eclectic ppl i know who have vast cd
collections
indicating a misspent middle age also still enjoy vinyl.
Most find that despite the vast sums they have spent on
cd players and transports, da converters, isolation platforms and
other widgets and gadgets, the humble black disk continues to delight,
and
give a greater sense of connection to the artist than any CD manages to
do.

I have been present at a number of AB comparisons where a CD version
and vinyl version of the same material from the same grand old master
tape
was being played, and we could switch from one to the other,
and vinyl seemed to have more to offer the audiophile subjectively.

Mind you, the whole analog recording process onto tape et all is a huge
bodge to.

So is FM stereo mulptiplexing.

Never mind the bodges, the sound does not seem to suffer, when they do
it right, IMHO.

Patrick Turner.


I used to have c8000 vinyl discs, including some old shellac. I sold
the important subcollections and gave the rest away. Vinyl is just too
time-consuming. So much music to listen to, so little time. CDs are a
boon.

I think there is a certain masochism afield among audiophiles. Like
Morgan owners, or MG owners, they think that hardship on one's
pleasures is a symptom of manliness. I don't. I always preferred
Porsche. cars that worked and offered a modicum of comfort, and big-
engined fast tourers rather than harsh, loud sports cars. Same in my
sound systems. I define what I want the sound to be and to do, and
then put it together like that. That is why I think horns and panels
are important, and ultra-simple amplifiers -- and CDs, so that
chaniging the music is quick and easy.

There is nothing wrong with CD sound quality; it is better than good
enough. I decided to go over solely to CD on the day Nimbus, who
transfer ancient discs to CD, sent me a box of CDs including one of
Ponselle that was better than anything you could buy on any other
medium, no matter how much money you spent.

Andre Jute
Our legislators managed to criminalize fox-hunting and smoking; when
they will get off their collective fat backside and criminalize
negative feedback? It is clearly consumed only by the enemies of
fidelity.


Keith G May 14th 07 09:36 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ps.com...

Patrick Turner wrote:



But all the really keen musically eclectic ppl i know who have vast
cd
collections
indicating a misspent middle age also still enjoy vinyl.
Most find that despite the vast sums they have spent on
cd players and transports, da converters, isolation platforms and
other widgets and gadgets, the humble black disk continues to
delight,
and
give a greater sense of connection to the artist than any CD manages
to
do.



Crazy old ****er's not wrong there....



I think there is a certain masochism afield among audiophiles. Like
Morgan owners, or MG owners, they think that hardship on one's
pleasures is a symptom of manliness. I don't. I always preferred
Porsche. cars that worked and offered a modicum of comfort, and big-
engined fast tourers rather than harsh, loud sports cars. Same in my
sound systems.



You do? I saw some rather good pix you posted recently and a couple of
your bike with a *heartrate monitor* (?) did I not?

Here's a picture of my current bike:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/mybi...%20GSX1400.jpg


It allows me to do 0 to *very naughty* whenever I can or want without
even breaking a sweat!! ;-)


I define what I want the sound to be and to do, and
then put it together like that. That is why I think horns and panels
are important, and ultra-simple amplifiers



OK, we are back on the same track again.....

All is good, all is calm....





Gerry May 14th 07 10:11 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 
On May 13, 6:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


What the hell is "bodge"????


Serge Auckland May 14th 07 10:41 AM

Intelligence and RIAA
 
Gerry wrote:
On May 13, 6:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music


What the hell is "bodge"????

A very expressive English word meaning a crude fix, a makeshift arrangement.

S.

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