ER Audio ESL-3B speaker kit progress, 22 May07.
 

"Patrick Turner" wrote in message
...

snip my own stuff and a couple of inane comments by others,

We have become a lazy plug and play society.

The saga of war and peace, has all been removed to save the ink in
my computer..

My energy and clear minded approach probably saved me
an enormous sum of money paid to others.

Patrick Turner.


So after all the bull **** you go on with,, what do they sound like,
are they any good, and how do they compair with professional
retailed products. ?????
Really that "IS" the bottom line.
bassett

ER Audio ESL-3B speaker kit progress, 22 May07.
 

On May 22, 1:29 pm, Patrick Turner wrote:

If anyone buys the kits as is, I'd recommend they take the stators to a
guy who can cut out shapes in sheet plastic, and have them
create perforated 0.8mm thick plastic PVC sheet to the same pattern of
the steel stator holes.

Patrick:

It just struck me that these people:

http://www.mcnichols.com/about/compa...holestory.html

will cut about any sheet-goods into about any pattern. In my past,
they have matched vintage radio speaker screens, top-cover patterns
and other items. Of course one has to purchase a "full sheet" in any
custom pattern, but with electrostatics, one could go through 32s.f.
in a hurry.

I sent them a bit of the OEM for a pattern, they sent me a quote and
various options... very civilized. I think it took a total of 5 days
until arrival. It may have helped that I was OK with them cutting the
sheet into much smaller pieces for shipping. The only difficulty is
whether they have a supplier at your end of the world.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

ER Audio ESL-3B speaker kit progress, 22 May07.
 

Peter Wieck wrote:

On May 22, 1:29 pm, Patrick Turner wrote:

If anyone buys the kits as is, I'd recommend they take the stators to a
guy who can cut out shapes in sheet plastic, and have them
create perforated 0.8mm thick plastic PVC sheet to the same pattern of
the steel stator holes.

Patrick:

It just struck me that these people:

http://www.mcnichols.com/about/compa...holestory.html

will cut about any sheet-goods into about any pattern. In my past,
they have matched vintage radio speaker screens, top-cover patterns
and other items. Of course one has to purchase a "full sheet" in any
custom pattern, but with electrostatics, one could go through 32s.f.
in a hurry.

I sent them a bit of the OEM for a pattern, they sent me a quote and
various options... very civilized. I think it took a total of 5 days
until arrival. It may have helped that I was OK with them cutting the
sheet into much smaller pieces for shipping. The only difficulty is
whether they have a supplier at your end of the world.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

McNichols are old fashioned and at the beginning of the website they say

"McNichols, and his successor Gene, built the McNICHOLS business
on a solid Christian foundation that combines fast delivery with
superior customer service."


Hmm, lets hope the Christian foundation is a sturdy one.....
Ppl are rejoicing that Fallwell died.

McN is too far away for Oz ppl, and having a 4" x 8" sheet sent here
from the US
could be a bother, so one would specify the panel sizes and have them
cut them all to size,
and ship a bundle over.

But there are ppl here who can perforate any material you supply them
because they have the gear, AND if someone is able and keen, he can
arrange to have the parts
made for any ESL he wants, which rules out most audiophiles, who are not
very keen,
are not very technical, and who don't like paying for anything.

Patrick Turner.

ER Audio ESL-3B speaker kit progress, 22 May07.
 

But there are ppl here who can perforate any material you supply them
because they have the gear, AND if someone is able and keen, he can
arrange to have the parts
made for any ESL he wants, which rules out most audiophiles, who are not
very keen,
are not very technical, and who don't like paying for anything.

I would never want to imply that Australia was not fully
industrialized distance is no indication of civilization despite
rumors to the contrary...

Just that McNichol is a ready resource for NA if anyone wishes to make
an ES speaker with some of your advice taken. As you note, most of the
parts-and-pieces are available OTC if one wishes to derive for one's
self.

As to Mr. Fallwell... One might argue that he was no follower of
Christ... a far more gentle individual whatever one may make of His
purported Godhead. In any case, he will be sorted out as necessary and
appropriate in the afterlife... where it is not for us to judge.

Bad Joke: Three proofs that Christ was Italian:

a) He lived at home until he was 30.
b) His mother believed he was God.
c) He believed his mother was a virgin.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

p.s.: God clearly has a sense of humor. For absolute proof of that,
just look in a mirror.

ER Audio ESL-3B speaker kit progress, 22 May07.
 

Peter Wieck wrote:

But there are ppl here who can perforate any material you supply them
because they have the gear, AND if someone is able and keen, he can
arrange to have the parts
made for any ESL he wants, which rules out most audiophiles, who are not
very keen,
are not very technical, and who don't like paying for anything.

I would never want to imply that Australia was not fully
industrialized distance is no indication of civilization despite
rumors to the contrary...


Civilisation usually reduces proportionally with distance increase from
the
geometric centre point between London, Paris and Vienna.

By the time reaches Oz, the density of civilisation
has become rather thin.......

However, the further you travel towards Oz, the harder it gets to play
sport,
unless you relish being beaten all the time.

And just don't forget who is really running the US, why, Rupert Murdoch,
formerly of Adelaide.

AND I recall a boatrace in 1983 where Australia II walloped Dennis
Connor's hog of a boat.

And what's all this got to do with anything about ESL?

Well, Australia II was a toy boat thinge belonging to Alan Bond, who
later got
convicted for gross financial misbehaviour where he stole obscene sums
of money,
and spent a year in jail where for each day there he attoned for 2
million bucks.
I wish I could get only a day in jail for stealing a couple of mill;
it'd be worth it then to rob a bank, and boy, don't the banks know how
to rob....

Alan Bond, the scoundrel from Perth, has never had anything whatsoever
to do with
to any ESL ever made by anyone, and he was just human, and a bit greedy,
and surrounded by fools who trusted him with their money.

So despite the foibles of the man, he created great history for Oz in
sail boat racing,
and we conquered the greatest nation on earth, and of course I mean your
can-do razzle dazzle nation, America.

So I am always thinking that its possible for truly great things could
come out of Perth,
for example, utterly wonderful step up trannies for ESL and
ESL panels that can do at least as well as Quad ESL57.

But for those who cannot wait then if they analyse the few brief words
I've had to say about
ESL speakers in the last 3 months, maybe they'd get to know enough
to just build their own.

Just that McNichol is a ready resource for NA if anyone wishes to make
an ES speaker with some of your advice taken. As you note, most of the
parts-and-pieces are available OTC if one wishes to derive for one's
self.

As to Mr. Fallwell... One might argue that he was no follower of
Christ... a far more gentle individual whatever one may make of His
purported Godhead. In any case, he will be sorted out as necessary and
appropriate in the afterlife... where it is not for us to judge.

Modern Evanjellykal Pentodicostal religion seems to be
messageing ppl with "Go forth and make money, for money is blessed."

In fact if your'e poor, its a sign God doesn't like you much.

Serious Christians now say that mainstream religion has basically become
corrupt
and the general message is all heresy, ie, they run on BS.


Its no use trying to tell modern religious ppl that a camel
has more chance of walking through the eye of a needle than
a rich man's chances of getting to heaven.
Charity for the poor? Huh? let em starve to death!



Bad Joke: Three proofs that Christ was Italian:

a) He lived at home until he was 30.
b) His mother believed he was God.
c) He believed his mother was a virgin.

Didja read that in the last chapter of Richard Dawkin's latest book?


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

p.s.: God clearly has a sense of humor. For absolute proof of that,
just look in a mirror.

And he has a vern stern enforcer, the God Of Triodes,
who is in charge of thousands of volts and Smoke.

Patrick Turner.