It appears that all along I had been taking Mr. Jute for a healthy
(if
perverse and peculiar) individual who was given to a rich fantasy
life
to fill his otherwise dull existence. While this may be so in
general,
there is a much more direct explanation for is behavior that forgives
all his poses, fantasies, lies and charlatanism. He is, with great
specificity, not of sound mine. By his own words to Henry Pasternack
some time past:

: Henry:
:
: Now that youve come to your senses, I wish you luck. Things can
only
improve. Look on the bright side: the experience will eventually
strengthen you. Ive been there. In my late twenties after a couple of
strokes brought on either by the stress of my job in advertising or a
blood clot left over after a racing incident, I was totally
unemployable, a physical and mental cripple (possibly in a worse
state
than the plucky and entertaining Al Marcy), a condition that
coincided
with me being made a stateless refugee because of my political
activities. Without pretending that I can ever know how you feltin
retrospect it is clear that friends and near-strangers looked after
me
by giving me consulting jobs I could handle in the hour a day I could
concentrate so that I was never hungry and my confidence didnt suffer
too badlyit was still an uncomfortably sobering experience. The main
thing is not to let it embitter you, or slow down your future.
:
: Music is great solaceplaying through my collection of Gregorian
Chant at the momentand one of my great regrets is that I never
learned to play any instrument properly: it is a mistake, learned too
late, to discard activitities one cannot execute to the highest
standard. When you give your public debut on the piano, let us know
so
we can send congratulatory telegrams to the dressing room.
:
: Good luck.
:
: Andre


Brain damage is a subtle thing. It explains why Mr. Jute does not
drive. Why he does not show his face in his photos, and when he does
show himself it is on 20-30 year-old vanity shots from his publisher.
It would explain his poor hearing and the results therefrom. It also
explains his peculiar behavior such that the joke: "Get his
medication(s) adjusted" is no joke at all. It explains his apparent
bi-
polar behavior, his need for primacy and the compensations he builds
into his life to get them, and his inordinate pride in the smallest
accomplishments such as boiling water for spaghetti and braising a
couple of chicken-breasts, as well as actually being able to ride a
bicycle. It also explains why it is that he does not drive... a very
simple thing, but imagine if that were taken from you by force-of-
accident.


I don't mind exchanging invective and vituperation with a whole
individual and/or one who chooses his/her benighted condition
deliberately. But I draw the line at kicking cripples.


My apologies, again. From here and ever after, Mr. Jute, if I engage
with you it will be on the specific merits at hand and not your
general manner and the consequences of your handicap as you cannot
help it.


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
oups.com...
It appears that all along I had been taking Mr. Jute for a healthy

(snip snip)


My apologies, again. From here and ever after, Mr. Jute, if I engage
with you it will be on the specific merits at hand and not your
general manner and the consequences of your handicap as you cannot
help it.


Peter, after reading all this mess (why am I wasting my time?) and trying to
decipher it, it appears that somewhere along the line you made a mistake?
Uh, if that's the case we've all done it, but it seems the bigger mistake
might be to apologize to a nutcase who appears to be from another world, who
can't speak plain English, and who can't let it go.

Again I wonder how crackpots with mental conditions seem to know how to use
a keyboard and get online . . .

Peter, you're welcome to stay. The rest of you, OUT! OUT! NOW! Shoo!
Goway!
(Grabbing the rifle full or salt) BANG! BANG! BOOM!



--
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com

"Gary Tayman" wrote in message
news:q1A5i.8869$ky6.2030@trnddc02...

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
oups.com...
It appears that all along I had been taking Mr. Jute for a healthy

(snip snip)


My apologies, again. From here and ever after, Mr. Jute, if I engage
with you it will be on the specific merits at hand and not your
general manner and the consequences of your handicap as you cannot
help it.


Peter, after reading all this mess (why am I wasting my time?) and
trying to decipher it, it appears that somewhere along the line you
made a mistake? Uh, if that's the case we've all done it, but it seems
the bigger mistake might be to apologize to a nutcase who appears to
be from another world, who can't speak plain English, and who can't
let it go.

Again I wonder how crackpots with mental conditions seem to know how
to use a keyboard and get online . . .

Peter, you're welcome to stay. The rest of you, OUT! OUT! NOW!
Shoo! Goway!
(Grabbing the rifle full or salt) BANG! BANG! BOOM!


Would that be an 'or salt' rifle...??

:-)

On May 25, 6:47 am, "Gary Tayman" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

oups.com...

It appears that all along I had been taking Mr. Jute for a healthy

(snip snip)

My apologies, again. From here and ever after, Mr. Jute, if I engage
with you it will be on the specific merits at hand and not your
general manner and the consequences of your handicap as you cannot
help it.

Peter, after reading all this mess (why am I wasting my time?) and trying to
decipher it, it appears that somewhere along the line you made a mistake?
Uh, if that's the case we've all done it, but it seems the bigger mistake
might be to apologize to a nutcase who appears to be from another world, who
can't speak plain English, and who can't let it go.

Again I wonder how crackpots with mental conditions seem to know how to use
a keyboard and get online . . .

Peter, you're welcome to stay. The rest of you, OUT! OUT! NOW! Shoo!
Goway!
(Grabbing the rifle full or salt) BANG! BANG! BOOM!

--
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Carshttp://www.taymanelectrical.com

That's pretty funny Tayman. Once again your over blown ego is
displayed quite nicely telling us to go away. Why don't you open the
door and leave first?

Gary:

Thank you for the support. I am sorry that anyone at the Radio end
even had to get involved.

However, ethically, it is no mistake to apologize to a damaged
individual, especially when one discovers that the damage explains
almost entirely their otherwise incredibly inept, insane and deranged
behavior. I have often stated that Usenet requires a dry sense of
humor within the hide of a rhinocerous. Mr. Jute has neither, and that
is beyond his control. So, if I engage with him in the future, I have
to tone down the invective as he is afflicted with at least several of
the long-term results of a stroke... which in turn cause him to be
without the usual social controls, respect for facts and the truth and
so forth:

Long-Term Effects of Stroke (abstracted):

Mood changes - these include mood swings, irritability, laughing or
crying even when you do not feel particularly happy or sad. Depression
is extremely common following a stroke, with symptoms such as loss of
appetite, insomnia, crying, low self-esteem and anxiety that can all
be signs of depression.
Cognitive difficulties - these include problems caused by damage to
areas of the brain controlling mental processes such as thinking
clearly and logically, learning, paying attention, memory, decision-
making and forward planning.
Behaviour changes - these may include being slower to react than
before the stroke, excessive caution, disorganisation, finding it
difficult to adjust to change and becoming confused or irritated.

Each day must be a struggle. My sympathies, even if the recipient
cannot accept or understand them.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

On May 25, 4:09 am, Peter Wieck wrote:
It appears that all along I had been taking Mr. Jute for a healthy
(if
perverse and peculiar) individual who was given to a rich fantasy
life
to fill his otherwise dull existence. While this may be so in
general,
there is a much more direct explanation for is behavior that forgives
all his poses, fantasies, lies and charlatanism. He is, with great
specificity, not of sound mine. By his own words to Henry Pasternack
some time past:

: Henry:
:
: Now that youve come to your senses, I wish you luck. Things can
only
improve. Look on the bright side: the experience will eventually
strengthen you. Ive been there. In my late twenties after a couple of
strokes brought on either by the stress of my job in advertising or a
blood clot left over after a racing incident, I was totally
unemployable, a physical and mental cripple (possibly in a worse
state
than the plucky and entertaining Al Marcy), a condition that
coincided
with me being made a stateless refugee because of my political
activities. Without pretending that I can ever know how you feltin
retrospect it is clear that friends and near-strangers looked after
me
by giving me consulting jobs I could handle in the hour a day I could
concentrate so that I was never hungry and my confidence didnt suffer
too badlyit was still an uncomfortably sobering experience. The main
thing is not to let it embitter you, or slow down your future.
:
: Music is great solaceplaying through my collection of Gregorian
Chant at the momentand one of my great regrets is that I never
learned to play any instrument properly: it is a mistake, learned too
late, to discard activitities one cannot execute to the highest
standard. When you give your public debut on the piano, let us know
so
we can send congratulatory telegrams to the dressing room.
:
: Good luck.
:
: Andre

Brain damage is a subtle thing. It explains why Mr. Jute does not
drive. Why he does not show his face in his photos, and when he does
show himself it is on 20-30 year-old vanity shots from his publisher.
It would explain his poor hearing and the results therefrom. It also
explains his peculiar behavior such that the joke: "Get his
medication(s) adjusted" is no joke at all. It explains his apparent
bi-
polar behavior, his need for primacy and the compensations he builds
into his life to get them, and his inordinate pride in the smallest
accomplishments such as boiling water for spaghetti and braising a
couple of chicken-breasts, as well as actually being able to ride a
bicycle. It also explains why it is that he does not drive... a very
simple thing, but imagine if that were taken from you by force-of-
accident.

I don't mind exchanging invective and vituperation with a whole
individual and/or one who chooses his/her benighted condition
deliberately. But I draw the line at kicking cripples.

My apologies, again. From here and ever after, Mr. Jute, if I engage
with you it will be on the specific merits at hand and not your
general manner and the consequences of your handicap as you cannot
help it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

You apparently have this problem with EVERYBODY. So far I can see you
are off yours. WHOEVER YOU ARE.

Peter Wieck wrote:

ethically, it is no mistake to apologize to a damaged
individual, especially when one discovers that the damage explains
almost entirely their otherwise incredibly inept, insane and deranged
behavior. I have often stated that Usenet requires a dry sense of
humor within the hide of a rhinocerous. Mr. Jute has neither, and that
is beyond his control. So, if I engage with him in the future, I have
to tone down the invective as he is afflicted with at least several of
the long-term results of a stroke...

Peter, I am curious as to why you chose to engage with this guy at all.

When these bizarre threads started showing up in RAR+P, It took the
reading of exactly one post to recognize that this guy was either a
troll giving an academy-award caliber performance, or someone more loopy
than all the rides at Magic Mountain put together. Either way, he isn't
someome I'd waste any time on.

-Scott

Scott,

RAT can get addictive because, out of the loony sphere, there are some great
threads and contributors.

Omer


"Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message
...
Peter Wieck wrote:

ethically, it is no mistake to apologize to a damaged
individual, especially when one discovers that the damage explains
almost entirely their otherwise incredibly inept, insane and deranged
behavior. I have often stated that Usenet requires a dry sense of
humor within the hide of a rhinocerous. Mr. Jute has neither, and that
is beyond his control. So, if I engage with him in the future, I have
to tone down the invective as he is afflicted with at least several of
the long-term results of a stroke...

Peter, I am curious as to why you chose to engage with this guy at all.

When these bizarre threads started showing up in RAR+P, It took the
reading of exactly one post to recognize that this guy was either a troll
giving an academy-award caliber performance, or someone more loopy than
all the rides at Magic Mountain put together. Either way, he isn't someome
I'd waste any time on.

-Scott

On May 25, 10:28 pm, "Omer Suleimanagich"
wrote:
Scott,

RAT can get addictive because, out of the loony sphere, there are some great
threads and contributors.

Omer

"Scott W. Harvey" wrote in ...



Peter Wieck wrote:

ethically, it is no mistake to apologize to a damaged
individual, especially when one discovers that the damage explains
almost entirely their otherwise incredibly inept, insane and deranged
behavior. I have often stated that Usenet requires a dry sense of
humor within the hide of a rhinocerous. Mr. Jute has neither, and that
is beyond his control. So, if I engage with him in the future, I have
to tone down the invective as he is afflicted with at least several of
the long-term results of a stroke...

Peter, I am curious as to why you chose to engage with this guy at all.

When these bizarre threads started showing up in RAR+P, It took the
reading of exactly one post to recognize that this guy was either a troll
giving an academy-award caliber performance, or someone more loopy than
all the rides at Magic Mountain put together. Either way, he isn't someome
I'd waste any time on.

-Scott- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm just observing the way he treated others with strokes.

Different CHOKES for different...yeah, just grow up, Peter. You used
to contribute more.

Pre-empting Tracy now...stop in again soon.

"A lot of idiots" wrote in message
...


Add to that exsanguinated lassitude the distraction of being knackered
into Wiecklessness, what Gray Glasser so delicately describes as the

(etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum)

BOOM! BANG! Goway! (Reloading) BANG! BOOM!

I'd give up on the salt rifle, and try out one of those shock and awe bombs,
but these guys would just look into the sky and think it's pretty.

I've been scratching my head, as many others have I'm sure, asking why the
loonytunes bunch seems to pick on radio hobbyists here. I think I have a
clue. Remember Helen Reddy had a song about some mentally sick girl who
listened to the radio, and ended up with a boyfriend who somehow got sucked
into the radio itself as she turned the volume down? Follow and analyze
that story, and I think you might have your answer.



--
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com