Serge Auckland wrote:
"Pete Cross" wrote in message ...
http://www.zen40166.zen.co.uk/audio.jpg

The big cupboard looking thing in the middle rear is the bass cab.......

Pete


What, only a single bass cabinet? That will never do.......

Mmm. Considering that horns derive their spinechilling authority from
being point source speakers, the designer of the Aventegard went wrong
already when he flattened the response by using several drivers and
probably lots of electronics for crossovers. After that a separate
bass cabinet hardly matters, and two of those bass cabinets would pass
the Zipser test: your *commitment* to your music is measured by how
much money you spend.

S
--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

Zipser, for those who don't know but will suffer street cred anxiety
if they don't know more about any subject than I do, was a main man on
rec.audio.high-end (RAH-E) who sold Nelson Pass gear, among others. He
would chide folk with budgets that didn't reach the brands he sold
with insufficient commitment to their music. A surprising number bent
over for Zip right out in public, proving once more that P T Barnum
was right. Eventually Zip was disgraced as a direct result of
believing his own audiophool patter: he accepted a challenge to tell
the difference between some overpriced cables he sold and zip cord (no
pun intended, at least not by him); he failed, of course.

Andre Jute
The trouble with most people is not what they don't know, but what
they know for certain that isn't true. ---Mark Twain

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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Serge Auckland wrote:
"Pete Cross" wrote in message ...
http://www.zen40166.zen.co.uk/audio.jpg

The big cupboard looking thing in the middle rear is the bass
cab.......

Pete


What, only a single bass cabinet? That will never do.......

Mmm. Considering that horns derive their spinechilling authority from
being point source speakers, the designer of the Aventegard went wrong
already when he flattened the response by using several drivers and
probably lots of electronics for crossovers. After that a separate
bass cabinet hardly matters, and two of those bass cabinets would pass
the Zipser test: your *commitment* to your music is measured by how
much money you spend.

S
--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

Zipser, for those who don't know but will suffer street cred anxiety
if they don't know more about any subject than I do, was a main man on
rec.audio.high-end (RAH-E) who sold Nelson Pass gear, among others. He
would chide folk with budgets that didn't reach the brands he sold
with insufficient commitment to their music. A surprising number bent
over for Zip right out in public, proving once more that P T Barnum
was right. Eventually Zip was disgraced as a direct result of
believing his own audiophool patter: he accepted a challenge to tell
the difference between some overpriced cables he sold and zip cord (no
pun intended, at least not by him); he failed, of course.

Andre Jute
The trouble with most people is not what they don't know, but what
they know for certain that isn't true. ---Mark Twain


It reinforces the old saying " An (audio)phool and his money are soon
popular"

S.

--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

http://www.avantgarde-acoustic.de/index1.php?sprache=en

click on Horns nr top left then on bass horn nr bottom right and finally on
specifications at the left. Each square of the bass cab is a seperate active
bass speaker with a 12" driver with 4" voice coil! all six as in the photo
gives you 1.7Kwrms of bass from 250Hz to 18Hz..... being German and with
such big horns I bet ooompah music really stands out on these :-)

Pete

"Pete Cross" wrote in message ...
http://www.avantgarde-acoustic.de/index1.php?sprache=en

click on Horns nr top left then on bass horn nr bottom right and
finally on
specifications at the left. Each square of the bass cab is a seperate
active
bass speaker with a 12" driver with 4" voice coil! all six as in the
photo
gives you 1.7Kwrms of bass from 250Hz to 18Hz..... being German and
with
such big horns I bet ooompah music really stands out on these :-)


Those and more he

http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/index/index.htm


Be sure to scroll all the way through.....

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Pete Cross" wrote in message ...
http://www.avantgarde-acoustic.de/index1.php?sprache=en

click on Horns nr top left then on bass horn nr bottom right and
finally on
specifications at the left. Each square of the bass cab is a seperate
active
bass speaker with a 12" driver with 4" voice coil! all six as in the
photo
gives you 1.7Kwrms of bass from 250Hz to 18Hz..... being German and
with
such big horns I bet ooompah music really stands out on these :-)


Those and more he

http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/index/index.htm


Be sure to scroll all the way through.....





I would have killed for some of them in my bedroom when I was a teenager! I
had to settle for a pair of Goodmans Magisters ( 15" wooley sounding bass
unit, 2-3" mid and tiny 1" dome tweeter ).

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Pete Cross" wrote in message ...
http://www.avantgarde-acoustic.de/index1.php?sprache=en

click on Horns nr top left then on bass horn nr bottom right and finally
on
specifications at the left. Each square of the bass cab is a seperate
active
bass speaker with a 12" driver with 4" voice coil! all six as in the
photo
gives you 1.7Kwrms of bass from 250Hz to 18Hz..... being German and with
such big horns I bet ooompah music really stands out on these :-)


Those and more he

http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/index/index.htm


Be sure to scroll all the way through.....




Thanks Keith, those pics really made my day, makes the rest of us look
relatively sane!
Can't imagine the volume from those two massive VOTT speakers in such a
small room, I suspect you'd have to speak loudly the japanese owners ;~)

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote

Those and more he

http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/index/index.htm


Be sure to scroll all the way through.....




Thanks Keith, those pics really made my day, makes the rest of us look
relatively sane!
Can't imagine the volume from those two massive VOTT speakers in such
a small room, I suspect you'd have to speak loudly the japanese owners
;~)


Seeing the lengths the Japs go to with their 'audio enthusiasm' (and
other things) is another reminder to me of how small-minded we can be in
this country....

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote

Those and more he

http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/index/index.htm


Be sure to scroll all the way through.....




Thanks Keith, those pics really made my day, makes the rest of us look
relatively sane!
Can't imagine the volume from those two massive VOTT speakers in such a
small room, I suspect you'd have to speak loudly the japanese owners ;~)


Seeing the lengths the Japs go to with their 'audio enthusiasm' (and other
things) is another reminder to me of how small-minded we can be in this
country....





I agree, their 'audio enthusiasm' brought SE and horns back to popularity
way before we did and obviously the Japanese are far more adventurous with
nostalgic kit then we are. Good luck to them. I would also guess their
usenet poster would be a lot more polite than us.
Mind you they also have a small 'town' full of electronic kit in (???,
Akihabara to wallow in.