Trevor read this....
 

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:50:40 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:27:43 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed
technicolor.

**Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is that
colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of the
process involved?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor

Very clever.

So how come old Technicolor movies on TV always look like they have
been shot through a yellow filter. They just look faded.

**Points:

* They don't ALWAYS look like that (I recently watched an old Sinbad movie
and it was stunningly good).
* TechnicolorT has nothing to do with the fading.

I've seen that - it had the fading I'm talking about. Perhaps there is
some enhancement going on at your TV broadcaster?

Technicolor rapidly gained the status of the system to archive valuable
movies on. Early Eastman colour movies were transferred to TechnicolorT for
permanent storage. Eastman colour (Kodak) had a life as short as less than a
decade. Technicolor, if stored correctly never loses it's colour balance. I
suggest you read the Wikipedia reference. Interesting stuff. The bit about
the speed rating of the film (ASA 5!!!) was most enlightening.

It is pretty good, I'll grant and it may well be very stable. But I
can always tell when a Technicolor film is on TV by the way the
colours look. They just aren't right. I've skimmed the Wiki article,
and although there were a couple of things there I didn't know (like
the use of imbibition to apply the dye) it wasn't really
super-enlightening.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Trevor read this....
 

In article , Keith G
writes

"Keith G" wrote in message
.. .

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
writes


Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's
****ing with rain again) - 120 quid

Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!...


You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant?

(You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-)

Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I have
just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm
not sure if I desperately need to keep them?

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG

??

(I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-)



Oink;).....


Note to self:

Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time....





--
Tony Sayer

Trevor read this....
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
writes

"Keith G" wrote in message
. ..

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
writes


Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now
it's
****ing with rain again) - 120 quid

Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!...


You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant?

(You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-)

Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I
have
just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm
not sure if I desperately need to keep them?

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG

??

(I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-)



Oink;).....


Note to self:

Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time....




Oink?

That's either 'pearls before swine' regarding the KT917 (in keeping with
your earlier 'wasted on you' comments) or the 'pigsty' state my room's
in after a day's hauling kit in and out....??

(Either way, it's no way to get a *bargain* is it? ;-)

Trevor read this....
 

In article , Keith G
writes

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
writes

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
writes


Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now
it's
****ing with rain again) - 120 quid

Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!...


You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant?

(You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-)

Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I
have
just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm
not sure if I desperately need to keep them?

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG

??

(I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-)



Oink;).....


Note to self:

Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time....




Oink?

Perhaps a hungry piggy just seen some grub;)...

That's either 'pearls before swine' regarding the KT917 (in keeping with
your earlier 'wasted on you' comments) or the 'pigsty' state my room's
in after a day's hauling kit in and out....??

(Either way, it's no way to get a *bargain* is it? ;-)





--
Tony Sayer

Trevor read this....
 

"tony sayer" wrote


Oink;).....


Note to self:

Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next
time....




Oink?

Perhaps a hungry piggy just seen some grub;)...


Well then you'd better get your Best Offer in before it goes to either
a) the bottom of my wardrobe for the forseeable, or b) off to Germany
hadn't you?

;-)

Trevor read this....
 

Keith G wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote


Oink;).....

Note to self:

Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next
time....



Oink?
Perhaps a hungry piggy just seen some grub;)...


Well then you'd better get your Best Offer in before it goes to either
a) the bottom of my wardrobe for the forseeable, or b) off to Germany
hadn't you?

;-)


Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be
interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?!

Rob

Trevor read this....
 

"Rob" wrote


Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be
interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?!


It is Rob, but WTF do you want it for - you've got more junk than I
have!!

(I emailed to ask if you were escaping the floods and received no
reply - I've been thinking the worst!! :-)

Trevor read this....
 

Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote


Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be
interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?!


It is Rob, but WTF do you want it for - you've got more junk than I
have!!


Just an everyday hankering :-)

Freecycle is now my friend, and I *will* have a cull in the not too
distant ...

(I emailed to ask if you were escaping the floods and received no
reply - I've been thinking the worst!! :-)


Curious - sorry, didn't get it. As usual, a momentous event passed me
by. Apparently the road at the bottom of the hill was under 3 foot of
water, my workplace was a refuge, and Sheffield ground to a halt. I just
cycled into work and did my stuff and came home as usual, thinking
perhaps it was a tad wet ;-)

Rob

Trevor read this....
 

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote


Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be
interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?!


It is Rob, but WTF do you want it for - you've got more junk than I
have!!


Just an everyday hankering :-)


The *hunger*..?? :-)

Anyway, got 'em all safely in the bottom of me wardrobe now - now,
anybody want half a dozen pairs of shoes and a coupla pairs of
motorcycle boots??

(I think I'm just moving my storage problems from one place to another!!
:-)



Freecycle is now my friend, and I *will* have a cull in the not too
distant ...


******** to Freecycle - seems even sleazier'n eBay!!

(??)


(I emailed to ask if you were escaping the floods and received no
reply - I've been thinking the worst!! :-)


Curious - sorry, didn't get it. As usual, a momentous event passed me
by.


Me too - musta been in the loo....


Apparently the road at the bottom of the hill was under 3 foot of
water, my workplace was a refuge, and Sheffield ground to a halt. I
just cycled into work and did my stuff and came home as usual,
thinking perhaps it was a tad wet ;-)


That's what we want - more good, old *British Phlegm*!! :-)

(I'm ****ing sick of hearing the words 'chaos, disaster, mayhem, panic,
catastrophe' &c. on the sappy/girlie BBC news...)

Trevor read this....
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:50:40 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:27:43 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed
technicolor.

**Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is
that
colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of
the
process involved?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor

Very clever.

So how come old Technicolor movies on TV always look like they have
been shot through a yellow filter. They just look faded.

**Points:

* They don't ALWAYS look like that (I recently watched an old Sinbad movie
and it was stunningly good).
* TechnicolorT has nothing to do with the fading.

I've seen that - it had the fading I'm talking about. Perhaps there is
some enhancement going on at your TV broadcaster?

**FWIW, it was a DVD. OTOH, I recently watched The Wizard Of Oz (free to
air) and the colour was, as usual to TechnicolorT perfect and vibrant. I
suggest to you, that any flaws you note with any TechnicolorT movie you
watch, have nothing to do with the TechnicolorT process. The fault may lie
in one or more of a number of areas. Perhaps the print from which the
video/DVD was made was not a TechnicolorT one. Perhaps the telecine
machinery was faulty. Perhaps the operator was on drugs. The fault would not
have been with the TechnicolorT process. It is inherently resitant to colour
problems. Unlike Eastman Color and many other colour film processes.


Technicolor rapidly gained the status of the system to archive valuable
movies on. Early Eastman colour movies were transferred to TechnicolorT
for
permanent storage. Eastman colour (Kodak) had a life as short as less than
a
decade. Technicolor, if stored correctly never loses it's colour balance.
I
suggest you read the Wikipedia reference. Interesting stuff. The bit about
the speed rating of the film (ASA 5!!!) was most enlightening.

It is pretty good, I'll grant and it may well be very stable. But I
can always tell when a Technicolor film is on TV by the way the
colours look. They just aren't right. I've skimmed the Wiki article,
and although there were a couple of things there I didn't know (like
the use of imbibition to apply the dye) it wasn't really
super-enlightening.

**I don't understand what you don't understand. The TechnicolorT process is
not at fault with you specific complaint.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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