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Told you so: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html (Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??) |
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"Keith G" wrote in message ... Told you so: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html (Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??) **You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago. Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "Keith G" wrote in message ... Told you so: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html (Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??) **You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago. Really? Strange you didn't grab the opportunity to *put me right* when I pooted the possibility of a 'dual format' ('flipper'?) disk at least a couple of times in the exchange a few weeks back..??* (You read the thread, you find the instances where I mentioned it.) Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already. Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably, music videos) here... *I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the proceedings, do we...?? |
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"Keith G" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "Keith G" wrote in message ... Told you so: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html (Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??) **You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago. Really? **Yeah, really. Strange you didn't grab the opportunity to *put me right* when I pooted the possibility of a 'dual format' ('flipper'?) disk at least a couple of times in the exchange a few weeks back..??* **No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish off any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product released yet. Have you seen it? (You read the thread, you find the instances where I mentioned it.) Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already. Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably, music videos) here... **Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make it's impact irrelevant. *I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the proceedings, do we...?? **Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK? -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On 2 Jul, 19:49, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote: "Keith G" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message . .. "Keith G" wrote in message . .. Told you so: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-trumpets-supp.... (Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??) **You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago. Really? **Yeah, really. Strange you didn't grab the opportunity to *put me right* when I pooted the possibility of a 'dual format' ('flipper'?) disk at least a couple of times in the exchange a few weeks back..??* **No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish off any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product released yet. Have you seen it? Samsung are still promising one but it's yet to see the light of day..... http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/o...ays-252038.php (You read the thread, you find the instances where I mentioned it.) Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already. Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably, music videos) here... **Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make it's impact irrelevant. Agreed. Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a couple of years *I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the proceedings, do we...?? **Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK? -- Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, Dr Hfuhruhurr
wrote: Agreed. Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a couple of years Leave it three years and they'll be £20 in Sainsbury's. It was suddenly revealed to me a couple of years back that being an early adopter was a mug's game; it was an Arcam DAB tuner that was the cause of my Damascene moment. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote **You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago. Really? **Yeah, really. No, not really - but let's not dwell.... **No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish off any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product released yet. Have you seen it? When you can (I believe) get 16 Gb of data on an SD card the size of a postage stamp (the minimum feasible size for convenient handling, I would suggest) I would say the days of spinning any sort of disk about to retrieve digital data are well and truly numbered - no? I haven't seen any physical HD products myself - the nearest I have come to is is the selection of several HDDVD and one BluRay clip that I ran from a laptop recently. What I have seen does not encourage me - my plans for an early entry to HD are now on hold for the forseeable.... Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already. Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably, music videos) here... **Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make it's impact irrelevant. How does the gaming 'industry' influence the mainstream movie buying/renting public? 30 quid players for any format will be stacked next to the vegetables in most supermarkets before long - hard to see how the relatively few owners of 400 quid games machines will have much of an impact.... *I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the proceedings, do we...?? **Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK? No idea.... |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote: Agreed. Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a couple of years Leave it three years and they'll be £20 in Sainsbury's. Exactly. But if it it *really* meant you were condemning yourself to 3 years substandard 'movie viewing' you would have to ask yourself if wasn't a *saving* too far...?? It was suddenly revealed to me a couple of years back that being an early adopter was a mug's game; it was an Arcam DAB tuner that was the cause of my Damascene moment. My first DAB tuner was a Technics, slashed to a ridiculous low 300 quid from the then 499 RRP - my present (equally good) DAB tuner can be easily got from eBay (graded, ex-display) for 30 quid + 12 quid P&P..!! |
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"Keith G" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote **You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago. Really? **Yeah, really. No, not really - but let's not dwell.... **No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish off any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product released yet. Have you seen it? When you can (I believe) get 16 Gb of data on an SD card the size of a postage stamp (the minimum feasible size for convenient handling, I would suggest) I would say the days of spinning any sort of disk about to retrieve digital data are well and truly numbered - no? **Yep. That is exactly what I wrote in the first part of the thread. Solid state memory is the future. The latest price I've spotted is AUS$18.00 for 2GB. Prices will plummet further. I haven't seen any physical HD products myself - the nearest I have come to is is the selection of several HDDVD and one BluRay clip that I ran from a laptop recently. What I have seen does not encourage me - my plans for an early entry to HD are now on hold for the forseeable.... **Smart move. Go look at a Playstation 3. They're a cheap and cheerful way into HD. Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already. Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably, music videos) here... **Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make it's impact irrelevant. How does the gaming 'industry' influence the mainstream movie buying/renting public? **The industry doesn't want a multiplicity of standards. 30 quid players for any format will be stacked next to the vegetables in most supermarkets before long - hard to see how the relatively few owners of 400 quid games machines will have much of an impact.... **The thin edge of the wedge. *I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the proceedings, do we...?? **Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK? No idea.... **'K. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 01:59:04 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote: Agreed. Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a couple of years Leave it three years and they'll be £20 in Sainsbury's. Exactly. But if it it *really* meant you were condemning yourself to 3 years substandard 'movie viewing' you would have to ask yourself if wasn't a *saving* too far...?? Nah. The quality problems I find with films tend not to be anything to do with the technical standard of reproduction. In fact high def and hi fi tend to do nothing more than reveal the nastiness even more clearly. It was suddenly revealed to me a couple of years back that being an early adopter was a mug's game; it was an Arcam DAB tuner that was the cause of my Damascene moment. My first DAB tuner was a Technics, slashed to a ridiculous low 300 quid from the then 499 RRP - my present (equally good) DAB tuner can be easily got from eBay (graded, ex-display) for 30 quid + 12 quid P&P..!! Quite so. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "Keith G" wrote When you can (I believe) get 16 Gb of data on an SD card the size of a postage stamp (the minimum feasible size for convenient handling, I would suggest) I would say the days of spinning any sort of disk about to retrieve digital data are well and truly numbered - no? **Yep. That is exactly what I wrote in the first part of the thread. Solid state memory is the future. The latest price I've spotted is AUS$18.00 for 2GB. Prices will plummet further. *Years ago* here, back when SD cards were at 4/8/16 Mb, I predicted that 'Gigabyte Cards' would fall out of corn flakes packets and 'Star Trek style' solid state storage media would eventually rule.... I haven't seen any physical HD products myself - the nearest I have come to is is the selection of several HDDVD and one BluRay clip that I ran from a laptop recently. What I have seen does not encourage me - my plans for an early entry to HD are now on hold for the forseeable.... **Smart move. Go look at a Playstation 3. They're a cheap and cheerful way into HD. This I don't understand - your 'advice' was/is not to buy a single-format *movie* machine at about 200 quid, yet you advise spending over double that on a single-format *games* machine when I have told you 200 times I'm not interested in the gaming/computing aspects of high-capacity disks....??? How does the gaming 'industry' influence the mainstream movie buying/renting public? **The industry doesn't want a multiplicity of standards. Sez who? I don't think you've got any idea of just how cheap and easy it is to pump out digital media, once the machine's been installed and set up...?? (To give you a clue - here, in the YUK, we've apparently got newspapers pre-empting the release of *commercial* CDs with 'front cover' freebies now!) **Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK? No idea.... **'K. Tbh, I miss him - the endless/futile 'valves & vinyl stink' punch ups were a bit tedious (but fun at times) and I grant that he did the decent thing* when he realised his dogma was never going to win, but now that the 'tut-tutters' have got the floor to themselves it's interesting (but not the least bit surprising) to see they have actually *nothing* to say..... * :-) |
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"Don Pearce" wrote Nah. The quality problems I find with films tend not to be anything to do with the technical standard of reproduction. In fact high def and hi fi tend to do nothing more than reveal the nastiness even more clearly. What nastiness is this? (Other than the *lost/buried* dialogue you mentioned - which I heartily agree, especially in modern Yank stuff where you need the subbies on half the time...!!) I can't believe your taste in movies is anything like as *technically antiquated* as mine (mostly 4:3/mono/B&W) - having thoroughly enjoyed 'Meshi' (1951), only the night before last: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043801/ ?? What little I was able to see of the 'HD' stuff I would say that it represents something of an improvement for HDTV users (at the expense of ludicrous 'moodiness') but as we never watch movies on TV I don't think it would be of much use to us atm, 'til we had an 'HD Ready' PJ and for there to be more titles available that we haven't already seen. Incidentally, I am informed that one of the *benchmark* movies for current HD quality is the 1938 'Robin Hood' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029843/ If I could be sure they were going to dolly up more movies of this calibre, I'd jump right in now! And, despite Trevor's 'advice', I'm not sure waiting for a 30 quid cheepy Chinky is the right thing to do this time round - there's a big difference between audio and video and we have been experiencing more problems than ever before with our latest HDMI Pioneer DV-696AV....!!! |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:21:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote Nah. The quality problems I find with films tend not to be anything to do with the technical standard of reproduction. In fact high def and hi fi tend to do nothing more than reveal the nastiness even more clearly. What nastiness is this? I'm talking about stupid visual effects (when cars collide, they are somehow undamaged, but one of them miraculously leaps into the air and turns over, exploding as it does so). And ludicrous sound effects (why, when somebody is punched, does it sound like a small bomb has just exploded? Why, when the plastic rear light of a car is smashed, do I hear the sound of glass breaking?) (Other than the *lost/buried* dialogue you mentioned - which I heartily agree, especially in modern Yank stuff where you need the subbies on half the time...!!) Well, you need that even when you can hear the dialogue now, "movie english" is so far divorced from the real language. I can't believe your taste in movies is anything like as *technically antiquated* as mine (mostly 4:3/mono/B&W) - having thoroughly enjoyed 'Meshi' (1951), only the night before last: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043801/ Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. ?? What little I was able to see of the 'HD' stuff I would say that it represents something of an improvement for HDTV users (at the expense of ludicrous 'moodiness') but as we never watch movies on TV I don't think it would be of much use to us atm, 'til we had an 'HD Ready' PJ and for there to be more titles available that we haven't already seen. Incidentally, I am informed that one of the *benchmark* movies for current HD quality is the 1938 'Robin Hood' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029843/ If I could be sure they were going to dolly up more movies of this calibre, I'd jump right in now! And, despite Trevor's 'advice', I'm not sure waiting for a 30 quid cheepy Chinky is the right thing to do this time round - there's a big difference between audio and video and we have been experiencing more problems than ever before with our latest HDMI Pioneer DV-696AV....!!! Well, I will be waiting, unless of course a film emerges that I feel I absolutely have to get in HD. Can't see that happening any time soon, though. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:21:59 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: What nastiness is this? I'm talking about stupid visual effects (when cars collide, they are somehow undamaged, but one of them miraculously leaps into the air and turns over, exploding as it does so). And ludicrous sound effects (why, when somebody is punched, does it sound like a small bomb has just exploded? Why, when the plastic rear light of a car is smashed, do I hear the sound of glass breaking?) Yes, it's a pity because I think SFX and Foley have been very good in movies generally, but the current levels of sloppiness and total cluelessness (whiny 2 stroke engine noises on big, 4 stroke bikes, just for one example) just add to the overall nause factor with a lot of modern movies, AFAIAC... (I gather the US car industry is none too thrilled at all the car explosions also...??) (Other than the *lost/buried* dialogue you mentioned - which I heartily agree, especially in modern Yank stuff where you need the subbies on half the time...!!) Well, you need that even when you can hear the dialogue now, "movie english" is so far divorced from the real language. I'm serious - on *many* movies now (which are supposed to be in 'English'), we have to have the subbies on to find out what was said! (Plenty of current actors like Harrison Ford are particularly bad at delivering their lines clearly!) Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. Ditto, I love B&W movies but I have to say I do get a lift when I see a film is in early Technicolour - the Archers Film Productions movies are very good examples, where applicable! |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:26:36 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: Yes, it's a pity because I think SFX and Foley have been very good in movies generally, but the current levels of sloppiness and total cluelessness (whiny 2 stroke engine noises on big, 4 stroke bikes, just for one example) just add to the overall nause factor with a lot of modern movies, AFAIAC... (I gather the US car industry is none too thrilled at all the car explosions also...??) Can't remember the film, but there was a car chase during which the "cool" driver, according to the soundtrack, made more than twenty consecutive upshifts. It was a US movie, so of course he was still only doing 55 at the end of it. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote Can't remember the film, but there was a car chase during which the "cool" driver, according to the soundtrack, made more than twenty consecutive upshifts. It was a US movie, so of course he was still only doing 55 at the end of it. Oh, that'll be the bloke with the 35 shot revolver who was in a 20 minute fist fight without getting a mark on his face.... Often, if we are about to watch a 'munch movie' rerun (ie 'watchable crap' with people like Cheech Marin and Selma Hayek in it), I will look up the Goofs in the IMDB and watch out for them. Only so many days/evenings ago we watched 'Once Upon A Time In Mexico' for at least the second time and there is a bit where a *well-dead* corpse flips his foot out of the way to allow another actor to come past!! (Cracks me up to see it - it's not the actors I blame, it's the toss-useless film editor!! :-)) |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:23:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote Can't remember the film, but there was a car chase during which the "cool" driver, according to the soundtrack, made more than twenty consecutive upshifts. It was a US movie, so of course he was still only doing 55 at the end of it. Oh, that'll be the bloke with the 35 shot revolver who was in a 20 minute fist fight without getting a mark on his face.... Often, if we are about to watch a 'munch movie' rerun (ie 'watchable crap' with people like Cheech Marin and Selma Hayek in it), I will look up the Goofs in the IMDB and watch out for them. Only so many days/evenings ago we watched 'Once Upon A Time In Mexico' for at least the second time and there is a bit where a *well-dead* corpse flips his foot out of the way to allow another actor to come past!! (Cracks me up to see it - it's not the actors I blame, it's the toss-useless film editor!! :-)) Like "Apollo 13" when Tom Hanks says "Houston, we have a problem" instead of "Houston, we've had a problem". I mean, of all lines, how could they get THAT one wrong? d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote Like "Apollo 13" when Tom Hanks says "Houston, we have a problem" instead of "Houston, we've had a problem". I mean, of all lines, how could they get THAT one wrong? I hafta admit - if I don't look the Goofs up I don't usually spot most of them and I *never* look at any Disk 2 (how we did it) material. I am perfectly prepared to be 'taken in and entertained' and will give the moviemakers all the leeway they need - including the 'wirework' in many HK movies but blatant cluelessness is always hard to take and can ruin a movie for me. Talking of problems - here's my eBay deliveries today: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/TinyBike.JPG - a dinky little model of my bike and a..... .....wait for it.... ....*replacement* Bean/Boult copy of VW's Larka!! :-) I have actually finally knackered my own with *no way* any less than 500 playings - maybe even getting on for a thousand!! (It's almost a daily ritual for me!) It actually still sounds very good *musically* but the 'groove noise' has been getting louder lately! (Sodding vinyl - don't last two minutes...!! ;-) |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:47:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: ...*replacement* Bean/Boult copy of VW's Larka!! :-) I have actually finally knackered my own with *no way* any less than 500 playings - maybe even getting on for a thousand!! (It's almost a daily ritual for me!) It actually still sounds very good *musically* but the 'groove noise' has been getting louder lately! His great (not sure how many) granddaughter Nicky is a good friend of mine. She wouldn't recognise a semiquaver if it smacked her in the face. Funny how genetics sometimes doesn't work out. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:47:59 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: ...*replacement* Bean/Boult copy of VW's Larka!! :-) I have actually finally knackered my own with *no way* any less than 500 playings - maybe even getting on for a thousand!! (It's almost a daily ritual for me!) It actually still sounds very good *musically* but the 'groove noise' has been getting louder lately! His great (not sure how many) granddaughter Nicky is a good friend of mine. She wouldn't recognise a semiquaver if it smacked her in the face. Funny how genetics sometimes doesn't work out. Most inherited traits skip alternate generations don't they? Perhaps she was on the backbeat?? Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid for a skipfull of garden snippings/loppings/garage junk and you're going to wait 3 years for a 200 quid HD player to come down in price? ;-) |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:41:24 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:47:59 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: ...*replacement* Bean/Boult copy of VW's Larka!! :-) I have actually finally knackered my own with *no way* any less than 500 playings - maybe even getting on for a thousand!! (It's almost a daily ritual for me!) It actually still sounds very good *musically* but the 'groove noise' has been getting louder lately! His great (not sure how many) granddaughter Nicky is a good friend of mine. She wouldn't recognise a semiquaver if it smacked her in the face. Funny how genetics sometimes doesn't work out. Most inherited traits skip alternate generations don't they? Perhaps she was on the backbeat?? Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid for a skipfull of garden snippings/loppings/garage junk and you're going to wait 3 years for a 200 quid HD player to come down in price? ;-) Once you start a game of "who blinks first?" you can't just quit. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote Once you start a game of "who blinks first?" you can't just quit. Sure you can - after a suitable period and without moving a muscle, you suggest changing to a game of Scissors, Paper, Stone to speed things up: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/games/Scissors+Paper+Stone/ |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:59:30 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote Once you start a game of "who blinks first?" you can't just quit. Sure you can - after a suitable period and without moving a muscle, you suggest changing to a game of Scissors, Paper, Stone to speed things up: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/games/Scissors+Paper+Stone/ Shall I try that at Currys? I usually prefer spoof for this kind of transaction, but I'm prepared to give it a go. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:59:30 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote Once you start a game of "who blinks first?" you can't just quit. Sure you can - after a suitable period and without moving a muscle, you suggest changing to a game of Scissors, Paper, Stone to speed things up: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/games/Scissors+Paper+Stone/ Shall I try that at Currys? I usually prefer spoof for this kind of transaction, but I'm prepared to give it a go. Currys? That's where the kiddie ringing up your purchases usually says 'Wow, that's a good price - I'll have to get one of/some of those myself!' isn't it? (Thought they'd gone bust, anyway....??) |
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writes "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:47:59 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: ...*replacement* Bean/Boult copy of VW's Larka!! :-) I have actually finally knackered my own with *no way* any less than 500 playings - maybe even getting on for a thousand!! (It's almost a daily ritual for me!) It actually still sounds very good *musically* but the 'groove noise' has been getting louder lately! His great (not sure how many) granddaughter Nicky is a good friend of mine. She wouldn't recognise a semiquaver if it smacked her in the face. Funny how genetics sometimes doesn't work out. Most inherited traits skip alternate generations don't they? Perhaps she was on the backbeat?? Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!... for a skipfull of garden snippings/loppings/garage junk and you're going to wait 3 years for a 200 quid HD player to come down in price? ;-) -- Tony Sayer |
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"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!... You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant? (You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-) Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I have just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm not sure if I desperately need to keep them? http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG ?? (I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-) |
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"Keith G" wrote in message ... "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!... You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant? (You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-) Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I have just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm not sure if I desperately need to keep them? http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG ?? (I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-) Note to self: Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time.... |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:21:59 +0100, "Keith G" wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote Nah. The quality problems I find with films tend not to be anything to do with the technical standard of reproduction. In fact high def and hi fi tend to do nothing more than reveal the nastiness even more clearly. What nastiness is this? I'm talking about stupid visual effects (when cars collide, they are somehow undamaged, but one of them miraculously leaps into the air and turns over, exploding as it does so). And ludicrous sound effects (why, when somebody is punched, does it sound like a small bomb has just exploded? Why, when the plastic rear light of a car is smashed, do I hear the sound of glass breaking?) (Other than the *lost/buried* dialogue you mentioned - which I heartily agree, especially in modern Yank stuff where you need the subbies on half the time...!!) Well, you need that even when you can hear the dialogue now, "movie english" is so far divorced from the real language. I can't believe your taste in movies is anything like as *technically antiquated* as mine (mostly 4:3/mono/B&W) - having thoroughly enjoyed 'Meshi' (1951), only the night before last: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043801/ Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. **Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is that colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of the process involved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor Very clever. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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wrote: Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. **Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is that colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of the process involved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor Very clever. So how come old Technicolor movies on TV always look like they have been shot through a yellow filter. They just look faded. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:27:43 +1000, "Trevor Wilson" wrote: Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. **Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is that colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of the process involved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor Very clever. So how come old Technicolor movies on TV always look like they have been shot through a yellow filter. They just look faded. **Points: * They don't ALWAYS look like that (I recently watched an old Sinbad movie and it was stunningly good). * TechnicolorT has nothing to do with the fading. Technicolor rapidly gained the status of the system to archive valuable movies on. Early Eastman colour movies were transferred to TechnicolorT for permanent storage. Eastman colour (Kodak) had a life as short as less than a decade. Technicolor, if stored correctly never loses it's colour balance. I suggest you read the Wikipedia reference. Interesting stuff. The bit about the speed rating of the film (ASA 5!!!) was most enlightening. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:50:40 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:27:43 +1000, "Trevor Wilson" wrote: Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. **Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is that colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of the process involved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor Very clever. So how come old Technicolor movies on TV always look like they have been shot through a yellow filter. They just look faded. **Points: * They don't ALWAYS look like that (I recently watched an old Sinbad movie and it was stunningly good). * TechnicolorT has nothing to do with the fading. I've seen that - it had the fading I'm talking about. Perhaps there is some enhancement going on at your TV broadcaster? Technicolor rapidly gained the status of the system to archive valuable movies on. Early Eastman colour movies were transferred to TechnicolorT for permanent storage. Eastman colour (Kodak) had a life as short as less than a decade. Technicolor, if stored correctly never loses it's colour balance. I suggest you read the Wikipedia reference. Interesting stuff. The bit about the speed rating of the film (ASA 5!!!) was most enlightening. It is pretty good, I'll grant and it may well be very stable. But I can always tell when a Technicolor film is on TV by the way the colours look. They just aren't right. I've skimmed the Wiki article, and although there were a couple of things there I didn't know (like the use of imbibition to apply the dye) it wasn't really super-enlightening. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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writes "Keith G" wrote in message .. . "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!... You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant? (You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-) Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I have just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm not sure if I desperately need to keep them? http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG ?? (I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-) Oink;)..... Note to self: Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time.... -- Tony Sayer |
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"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes "Keith G" wrote in message . .. "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!... You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant? (You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-) Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I have just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm not sure if I desperately need to keep them? http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG ?? (I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-) Oink;)..... Note to self: Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time.... Oink? That's either 'pearls before swine' regarding the KT917 (in keeping with your earlier 'wasted on you' comments) or the 'pigsty' state my room's in after a day's hauling kit in and out....?? (Either way, it's no way to get a *bargain* is it? ;-) |
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writes "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes "Keith G" wrote in message ... "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G writes Just waved off my skip blokey (having waited in all day and now it's ****ing with rain again) - 120 quid Ah!, yes one of Gordons stealth taxes by another name;!... You mean Skippy's Landfill Tax rant? (You've been speaking to him as well then??!! :-) Now, Toe Knee, me auld china - what would you say if I told you I have just pulled these *chunky pieces* out of the stack pro temps and I'm not sure if I desperately need to keep them? http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Temptation.JPG ?? (I'm not looking to *throw* them away, either.... ;-) Oink;)..... Note to self: Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time.... Oink? Perhaps a hungry piggy just seen some grub;)... That's either 'pearls before swine' regarding the KT917 (in keeping with your earlier 'wasted on you' comments) or the 'pigsty' state my room's in after a day's hauling kit in and out....?? (Either way, it's no way to get a *bargain* is it? ;-) -- Tony Sayer |
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"tony sayer" wrote Oink;)..... Note to self: Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time.... Oink? Perhaps a hungry piggy just seen some grub;)... Well then you'd better get your Best Offer in before it goes to either a) the bottom of my wardrobe for the forseeable, or b) off to Germany hadn't you? ;-) |
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"tony sayer" wrote Oink;)..... Note to self: Hoover the bloody carpet before taking low-level snaps, next time.... Oink? Perhaps a hungry piggy just seen some grub;)... Well then you'd better get your Best Offer in before it goes to either a) the bottom of my wardrobe for the forseeable, or b) off to Germany hadn't you? ;-) Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?! Rob |
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"Rob" wrote Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?! It is Rob, but WTF do you want it for - you've got more junk than I have!! (I emailed to ask if you were escaping the floods and received no reply - I've been thinking the worst!! :-) |
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"Rob" wrote Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?! It is Rob, but WTF do you want it for - you've got more junk than I have!! Just an everyday hankering :-) Freecycle is now my friend, and I *will* have a cull in the not too distant ... (I emailed to ask if you were escaping the floods and received no reply - I've been thinking the worst!! :-) Curious - sorry, didn't get it. As usual, a momentous event passed me by. Apparently the road at the bottom of the hill was under 3 foot of water, my workplace was a refuge, and Sheffield ground to a halt. I just cycled into work and did my stuff and came home as usual, thinking perhaps it was a tad wet ;-) Rob |
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"Rob" wrote in message ... Keith G wrote: "Rob" wrote Is that the OTT Technics pre/power in that photo Keith? I'd be interested but not sure of a price - what you paid?! It is Rob, but WTF do you want it for - you've got more junk than I have!! Just an everyday hankering :-) The *hunger*..?? :-) Anyway, got 'em all safely in the bottom of me wardrobe now - now, anybody want half a dozen pairs of shoes and a coupla pairs of motorcycle boots?? (I think I'm just moving my storage problems from one place to another!! :-) Freecycle is now my friend, and I *will* have a cull in the not too distant ... ******** to Freecycle - seems even sleazier'n eBay!! (??) (I emailed to ask if you were escaping the floods and received no reply - I've been thinking the worst!! :-) Curious - sorry, didn't get it. As usual, a momentous event passed me by. Me too - musta been in the loo.... Apparently the road at the bottom of the hill was under 3 foot of water, my workplace was a refuge, and Sheffield ground to a halt. I just cycled into work and did my stuff and came home as usual, thinking perhaps it was a tad wet ;-) That's what we want - more good, old *British Phlegm*!! :-) (I'm ****ing sick of hearing the words 'chaos, disaster, mayhem, panic, catastrophe' &c. on the sappy/girlie BBC news...) |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:50:40 +1000, "Trevor Wilson" wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:27:43 +1000, "Trevor Wilson" wrote: Most of my favourite films are either B&W or severely yellowed technicolor. **Just to be pedantic here, but the big advantage of TechnicolorT is that colour balance is always perfectly rendered. I trust you are aware of the process involved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor Very clever. So how come old Technicolor movies on TV always look like they have been shot through a yellow filter. They just look faded. **Points: * They don't ALWAYS look like that (I recently watched an old Sinbad movie and it was stunningly good). * TechnicolorT has nothing to do with the fading. I've seen that - it had the fading I'm talking about. Perhaps there is some enhancement going on at your TV broadcaster? **FWIW, it was a DVD. OTOH, I recently watched The Wizard Of Oz (free to air) and the colour was, as usual to TechnicolorT perfect and vibrant. I suggest to you, that any flaws you note with any TechnicolorT movie you watch, have nothing to do with the TechnicolorT process. The fault may lie in one or more of a number of areas. Perhaps the print from which the video/DVD was made was not a TechnicolorT one. Perhaps the telecine machinery was faulty. Perhaps the operator was on drugs. The fault would not have been with the TechnicolorT process. It is inherently resitant to colour problems. Unlike Eastman Color and many other colour film processes. Technicolor rapidly gained the status of the system to archive valuable movies on. Early Eastman colour movies were transferred to TechnicolorT for permanent storage. Eastman colour (Kodak) had a life as short as less than a decade. Technicolor, if stored correctly never loses it's colour balance. I suggest you read the Wikipedia reference. Interesting stuff. The bit about the speed rating of the film (ASA 5!!!) was most enlightening. It is pretty good, I'll grant and it may well be very stable. But I can always tell when a Technicolor film is on TV by the way the colours look. They just aren't right. I've skimmed the Wiki article, and although there were a couple of things there I didn't know (like the use of imbibition to apply the dye) it wasn't really super-enlightening. **I don't understand what you don't understand. The TechnicolorT process is not at fault with you specific complaint. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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