Told you so:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html


(Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??)

"Keith G" wrote in message
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Told you so:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html


(Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??)

**You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago.

Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It will
be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already.



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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Told you so:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html


(Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??)

**You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago.


Really? Strange you didn't grab the opportunity to *put me right* when I
pooted the possibility of a 'dual format' ('flipper'?) disk at least a
couple of times in the exchange a few weeks back..??*

(You read the thread, you find the instances where I mentioned it.)



Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It
will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already.


Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably,
music videos) here...


*I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the
proceedings, do we...??

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
.. .

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Told you so:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-total-hd.html


(Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??)

**You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago.


Really?

**Yeah, really.

Strange you didn't grab the opportunity to *put me right* when I
pooted the possibility of a 'dual format' ('flipper'?) disk at least a
couple of times in the exchange a few weeks back..??*

**No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past
next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish off
any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product released
yet. Have you seen it?


(You read the thread, you find the instances where I mentioned it.)



Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It
will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already.


Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably,
music videos) here...

**Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make it's
impact irrelevant.



*I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the
proceedings, do we...??

**Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK?


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On 2 Jul, 19:49, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
. ..

Told you so:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101687/c...-trumpets-supp....

(Although delayed until 2008, I gather...??)

**You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago.

Really?

**Yeah, really.

Strange you didn't grab the opportunity to *put me right* when I

pooted the possibility of a 'dual format' ('flipper'?) disk at least a
couple of times in the exchange a few weeks back..??*

**No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past
next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish off
any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product released
yet. Have you seen it?

Samsung are still promising one but it's yet to see the light of
day.....
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/o...ays-252038.php


(You read the thread, you find the instances where I mentioned it.)

Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It
will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already.

Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably,
music videos) here...

**Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make it's
impact irrelevant.

Agreed.
Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles
up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that
i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a
couple of years


*I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the
proceedings, do we...??

**Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK?

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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, Dr Hfuhruhurr
wrote:

Agreed.
Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles
up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that
i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a
couple of years

Leave it three years and they'll be £20 in Sainsbury's. It was
suddenly revealed to me a couple of years back that being an early
adopter was a mug's game; it was an Arcam DAB tuner that was the cause
of my Damascene moment.

d

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"Trevor Wilson" wrote

**You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago.


Really?

**Yeah, really.


No, not really - but let's not dwell....



**No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not
past next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will
finish off any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this
product released yet. Have you seen it?


When you can (I believe) get 16 Gb of data on an SD card the size of a
postage stamp (the minimum feasible size for convenient handling, I
would suggest) I would say the days of spinning any sort of disk about
to retrieve digital data are well and truly numbered - no?

I haven't seen any physical HD products myself - the nearest I have come
to is is the selection of several HDDVD and one BluRay clip that I ran
from a laptop recently. What I have seen does not encourage me - my
plans for an early entry to HD are now on hold for the forseeable....



Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena.
It will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already.


Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and,
presumably, music videos) here...

**Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make
it's impact irrelevant.


How does the gaming 'industry' influence the mainstream movie
buying/renting public? 30 quid players for any format will be stacked
next to the vegetables in most supermarkets before long - hard to see
how the relatively few owners of 400 quid games machines will have much
of an impact....


*I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the
proceedings, do we...??

**Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK?


No idea....

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, Dr Hfuhruhurr
wrote:

Agreed.
Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles
up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that
i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a
couple of years

Leave it three years and they'll be £20 in Sainsbury's.


Exactly. But if it it *really* meant you were condemning yourself to 3
years substandard 'movie viewing' you would have to ask yourself if
wasn't a *saving* too far...??


It was
suddenly revealed to me a couple of years back that being an early
adopter was a mug's game; it was an Arcam DAB tuner that was the cause
of my Damascene moment.


My first DAB tuner was a Technics, slashed to a ridiculous low 300 quid
from the then 499 RRP - my present (equally good) DAB tuner can be
easily got from eBay (graded, ex-display) for 30 quid + 12 quid P&P..!!

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote

**You didn't tell me anything I didn't know six months ago.


Really?

**Yeah, really.


No, not really - but let's not dwell....



**No point. It is a dead end product. It'll never fly. At least not past
next year, anyway. The proliferation of dual format player will finish
off any notions of such a product. BTW: I have yet to see this product
released yet. Have you seen it?


When you can (I believe) get 16 Gb of data on an SD card the size of a
postage stamp (the minimum feasible size for convenient handling, I would
suggest) I would say the days of spinning any sort of disk about to
retrieve digital data are well and truly numbered - no?

**Yep. That is exactly what I wrote in the first part of the thread. Solid
state memory is the future. The latest price I've spotted is AUS$18.00 for
2GB. Prices will plummet further.


I haven't seen any physical HD products myself - the nearest I have come
to is is the selection of several HDDVD and one BluRay clip that I ran
from a laptop recently. What I have seen does not encourage me - my plans
for an early entry to HD are now on hold for the forseeable....

**Smart move. Go look at a Playstation 3. They're a cheap and cheerful way
into HD.




Make no mistake: This battle will not be fought in the movie arena. It
will be a computer/gaming fight. Blu Ray has it won already.


Irrelevant, even if correct. We are talking *movies* (and, presumably,
music videos) here...

**Ignoring the influence of the computer/gaming industry does not make
it's impact irrelevant.


How does the gaming 'industry' influence the mainstream movie
buying/renting public?

**The industry doesn't want a multiplicity of standards.

30 quid players for any format will be stacked
next to the vegetables in most supermarkets before long - hard to see how
the relatively few owners of 400 quid games machines will have much of an
impact....

**The thin edge of the wedge.



*I'm being polite - we don't want 'Pinkyspeak' creeping back into the
proceedings, do we...??

**Nope. What happened to Stu? Is he OK?


No idea....

**'K.


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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 01:59:04 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, Dr Hfuhruhurr
wrote:

Agreed.
Personally I would rather pay £400 for a Blu-Ray player that doubles
up as a gaming console, than £400 for just a player. Having said that
i'd rather pay £200 for a universal player, so I think i'll leave it a
couple of years

Leave it three years and they'll be £20 in Sainsbury's.


Exactly. But if it it *really* meant you were condemning yourself to 3
years substandard 'movie viewing' you would have to ask yourself if
wasn't a *saving* too far...??

Nah. The quality problems I find with films tend not to be anything to
do with the technical standard of reproduction. In fact high def and
hi fi tend to do nothing more than reveal the nastiness even more
clearly.


It was
suddenly revealed to me a couple of years back that being an early
adopter was a mug's game; it was an Arcam DAB tuner that was the cause
of my Damascene moment.


My first DAB tuner was a Technics, slashed to a ridiculous low 300 quid
from the then 499 RRP - my present (equally good) DAB tuner can be
easily got from eBay (graded, ex-display) for 30 quid + 12 quid P&P..!!

Quite so.

d

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