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Andre Jute September 14th 07 09:28 AM

The incompetent forgeries of Peter Wieck, body parts trader, Williamson by QUAD?
 

So, Worthless Peter Wieck, where is your proof of your repeated claim
that the car in which Theo Sarapo drove the body of Edith Piaf to
Paris was *not* a Simca.

We've had lots of smoke and mirrors and ranting and handwaving from
you, and dark McCarthyite mutterings, and tearjerking tales of the end
of Piaf that Worthless Peter Wieck stole without acknowledgement from
record company flacks, but where's the beef, man, the proof, the
proof, oh where is the proof that it was *not* a Simca?

Or are you just lying again because you are immoral scum?

Lots of other unanswered claimsby Worthless Peter Wieck listed below,
too. Looks to me like Worthless Wiecky is running away again.

Andre Jute
No real corpses were harmed in the assembly of my golem Worthless
Wieckless. I made him by stuffing a cow's bladder with pig offal. --
CE Statement of Conformity

Andre Jute wrote:

On Sep 13, 9:06 am, Peter Wieck wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:03 am, Andre Jute wrote:



Peter Wieck wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:53:17 -0700, Andre Jute
wrote:


*Everything* I wrote was snipped:


Peter Wieck then forged this and pretended I wrote it:


__________________________________________________ ___


In 1958 she was in a serious car accident and took morphine for pain
and relapsed into drug and alcohol abuse. In 1959, Édith broke down
during a performance in New York and thereafter survived a number of
operations. She returned to Paris in poor health. Édith met her second
husband, Théo Sarapo, in the winter of 1961. Théo was a twenty-six-
year-old hairdresser-turned-singer and actor, and was twenty years
younger than Piaf. They married in 1962. He rejuvenated her enough to
make her last recordings and performances. Piaf went to a small town
(Cannes) in the South of France in early 1963 to recuperate but she
fell in and out of a coma beginning in April 1963. At the early age of
47 on October 10, 1963, Édith Piaf died of cancer. Her husband Théo
discretely drove her body back to Paris and announced her death on
October 11, 1963. Upon hearing of her death, Édith's long-time friend,
Jacques Cocteau suffered a cardiac arrest and died.
The Roman Catholic Church denied Édith Piaf a funeral mass because of
her lifestyle. Piaf was buried in cemetery Père Lachaise on October
14, 1963.
Théo Sarapo, Édith's husband died in an automobile accident in 1970
and is buried beside Piaf in Père Lachaise.
__________________________________________________ ______


I did not write that wretched, illiterate piece. What I wrote is, in
its entirety:


"Trivia for you: Edith Piaf's last lover, after she took the drugs
overdose that killed her, decided a French national icon should not
die anywhere but Paris, so he drove her body, sitting in the passenger
seat beside him, through the night from the Mediterranean coast to
Paris. The car was a Simca V8."


The sad sack Peter Wieck then tried to condemn me on hand of his
forgery:


Trust Mr. Jute to embelish interesting enough facts with enough legend
and falsehood to choke even 60 horses:


Nope, I didn't. The sad sack wannabe Peter Wieck is the one who
regurgitates the publicity puffery. He goes on with his deceit,
criticizing his own forgery, still trying to claim I wrote it:


The saddest part is that the bare facts are interesting enough to
stand on their own without additional tripe and twaddle afterwards.


My single short paragraph stands. Everything else was invented by
Worthless Wiecky to insert himself in the conversations of his
betters.


And all that we learn from Mr. Jute is that he cannot tell a story
straight. Kinda puts the whole Simca statement in question.


Then prove I'm wrong, scumface.


Peter Wieck is a forger and a liar. He is scum.


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


With complete contemp for a worthless netstalker.


Andre Jute- Hide quoted text -


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So you admit you forged that piece of crap and tried to pass it off on
me. Where is your apology, Peter Wieck, slimeball.

a) Piaf died of cancer. The "overdose" is as unlikely as the Simca.


Prove it, toilet slime.

b) That she may have been taking pain killers is quite likely. That
she died of an overdose is not. Her husband (lover too, one expects)
would not have permitted that.


All this, poor worthless Peter Wieck seems to believe, is *proved* by
puffery written by PR flacks at record companies with a monetary
interest in keeping Piaf's image Persil-white. It's a three-hanky
movie but it is totally irrelevant to Worthless Wiecky's total
inability to prove it wasn't a Simca V8, and that Piaf didn't die of
an overdose.

Edith Piaf's Death: Piaf died of cancer in 1963, near Cannes. The date
is disputed, it is said that she actually passed on October 10, but
her official date of death is October 11. Her husband, Theo Sarapo,
was with her at the time. Piaf is buried in Pere Lachaise Cemetery in
Paris. ( http://worldmusic.about.com/od/bands.../EdithPiaf.htm


Snivel, snivel, three bags of useless drivel.

Piaf and Sarapo sang together at the Bobino in early 1963, and Piaf
also made her final recording, "L'Homme de Berlin." Not long
afterward, Piaf slipped into a coma, brought on by cancer. Sarapo and
Simone Berteaut took Piaf to her villa in Plascassier, on the French
Riviera, to nurse her. She drifted in and out of consciousness for
months before passing away on October 11, 1963 -- the same day as
legendary writer/filmmaker Jean Cocteau. Her body was taken back to
Paris in secret, so that fans could believe she died in her hometown.
( http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Piaf,_Edith/Biography/ )


More tearjerking by publicity flacks. But where's the proof it wasn't
a Simca, Worthless Wiecky?

There is much more of course.


Of course there is. But where's the beef, Worthless Wiecky. The Simca,
man, the Simca. You promised to disprove it. You haven't. Smoke and
mirrors won't help you.

What Jute added was the unnecessary embellishment of "Lover" vs.
husband


Crap. Nothing stops a husband from being a lover as well.

and the outright lie


Prove it, Worthless Wiecky.

as a drug overdose being the cause of
death.


"the outright lie as a drug overdose being the cause of death" --
you're really not up to this, are you Worthless. The slightest stress
and your English starts slipping.


Death was inevitable, the drugs were at best a bit-
contributor.


How could you possibly know this?

Proof. OK.


No proof of anything whatsoever. Lots of tearjerking and puffery from
paid flacks with a commercial interest in Piaf's legend, but buggerall
proof of anything.


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Lying, fraudulent scumbag, forger and netstalker.

Insigned out of contempt for a worthless janitor.



Andre Jute September 14th 07 10:00 AM

Dickless Wiecky's motor: bent rod, firing on zero cylinders More from the Don Pearce School of Miscalculation, was Williamson by QUAD?
 
On Sep 12, 8:00 am, Peter Wieck wrote:
"All American V8s are 90-degrees". Sure they are. Mr. Jute has
written, so it must be.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Kutztown Space 138


So, Worthless Wiecky where are these American V8s that aren't 90-
degrees?

So far you've shown your ignorance by claiming the 454 Mercruiser
somehow between the GM production line and Mercruiser warped from 90
degees to 60. You've produced as Otto cycle American production
engines suitable for hotrod use a Diesel engine, a Yamaha made in
Japan engine, and an 18 litre tank engine whose fuel consumption is
measured in gallons per mile. One isn't American, one isn't an Otto
cycle engine, one is so unsuitable for hotrod use that only one
example could be found despite the fact that the Army is probably
desperate to give the engines away to clear the space, and of course,
having each failed on several parameters, *none* fit all the
requirements; none even fit more than half the requirements.

You've wasted our time with your ranting and your waffle and your
smoke and mirrors, all of it dull cut and paste stuff out off Google,
all of it irrelevant, and your dire ignorance as in the 454 marine
engine case.

So now I'm giving you another chance to produce an engine that is an
American V8 petrol engine in appreciable production so that a
hotrodder can acquire one.

If not, you owe me an apology for your impertinence. Let's see it
again:

"All American V8s are 90-degrees". Sure they are. Mr. Jute has
written, so it must be.


Precisely. See the appendix about V8 engine development, machining and
tuning in Andre Jute: "Designing and Building Special Cars", B T
Batsford, London; Bentley, Boston, etc; other proprietary editions;
usual translations.

Andre Jute
Visit Andre's other books at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/


Peter Wieck September 14th 07 10:30 AM

More from the Don Pearce School of Miscalculation, was Williamson by QUAD?
 
On Sep 14, 1:00 am, flipper wrote:

I think you left out the most popular: " (The love of) Money is the root of all
evil."


Yep.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Peter Wieck September 14th 07 10:35 AM

Dickless Wieckless, stalker, Kutztown Space 333
 
On Sep 14, 5:23 am, Andre Jute wrote:

PS Where's your proof about the Simca, Worthless Wiecky? We're
waiting. Or is it another of your lies that you cannot prove?


Never said the Simca story was untrue. Simply that with all the other
embelishments and lies added to it, the entirety of the representation
was in doubt.

Whereas had you simply said in far less than 53 words that Edith
Piaf's husband drove her body back to Paris after her death in a
Simca, that would have had some traction.

See, _Andre_, when you ring in "Glassgrey" as your spokespuppet, it is
pretty obvious that you have been caught out... defending your lies
with a lie, as it were.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Peter Wieck September 14th 07 10:44 AM

More from the Don Pearce School of Miscalculation, was Williamson by QUAD?
 
On Sep 14, 1:00 am, flipper wrote:

Not true. A drug must have FDA approval to be sold/used commercially.


Yes. But unless a drug is listed in the "forbidden" Pharmacopia, it is
not illegal to make, use or possess it. There is no "sale weight" nor
any other limitation on it. And the "casual" selling and buying of it
as illegal acts becomes bogged down in whether it is defined as a
"controlled substance" or not.

Drug USE has nothing to do with its being illegal. The Billions and
Billions spent on illegal drug manufacture, distribution and use that
is a massive and intractable burden on Law Enforcement and society in
general would die overnight - just as bootlegging died overnight -
were things to change. And the United States did not instantly turn
into a nation of drunkards and sots when prohibition was lifted. There
is some evidence that alcohol consumption actually went down
thereafter. That may be anecdotal, but the appeal of the forbidden
fruit does factor in.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Jon Yaeger September 14th 07 10:57 AM

Peter Wieck, forger, was More from the Don Pearce School
 
in article , John
Byrns at
wrote on 9/13/07 11:43 AM:

In article om,
Andre Jute wrote:

The forger and netstalker Peter Wieck wrote:

On Sep 12, 7:46 pm, Andre Jute wrote:

I blew it, but I am a damned good spinner....


No, I didn't write that. It is a forgery by the forger and netstalker
Peter Wieck.

Spin as you will, you are still a liar.


So you keep screeching. But you know you can't ever prove such wishful
thinking, which is why you keep forging messages and trying to pretend
they're my words.


Peter likes to do that, put words in other peoples mouths so that it
later appears in the record as though they had actually said it. This
is an art that was honed to a fine edge many years ago by "the gang", so
I am very sensitive to it. Peter tried it on me just yesterday in
another usenet newsgroup.


Regards,

John Byrns



John,

Your idol Jute is the very master of a variant this technique.

He makes up stuff about people and then repeats it as fact, ad nauseum.

But I realize that sometimes we are blinded to our loved one's failings . .
.. .

Jon


bill ramsay September 14th 07 12:00 PM

Dickless Wiecky's motor: bent rod, firing on zero cylinders More from the Don Pearce School of Miscalculation, was Williamson by QUAD?
 
isn't this getting rather tiresome?

give it a rest.

who cares if it's 60, 90 or 112.7?



John Byrns September 14th 07 12:28 PM

Dickless Wieckless, stalker, Kutztown Space 333
 
In article .com,
Andre Jute wrote:

PS Where's your proof about the Simca, Worthless Wiecky? We're
waiting. Or is it another of your lies that you cannot prove?


I Wasn't paying attention to the Simca discussion in the "V8" thread.
What is the disagreement over the Simca all about?


Regards,

John Byrns

--
Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/

Andre Jute September 14th 07 12:30 PM

Peter Wieck, forger, was More from the Don Pearce School of Miscalculation, was Williamson by QUAD?
 
The garage vermin Jon Yaeger wrote:
in article , John
Byrns at wrote on 9/13/07 11:43 AM:



In article om,
Andre Jute wrote:


The forger and netstalker Peter Wieck wrote:


On Sep 12, 7:46 pm, Andre Jute wrote:


I blew it, but I am a damned good spinner....


No, I didn't write that. It is a forgery by the forger and netstalker
Peter Wieck.


Spin as you will, you are still a liar.


So you keep screeching. But you know you can't ever prove such wishful
thinking, which is why you keep forging messages and trying to pretend
they're my words.


Peter likes to do that, put words in other peoples mouths so that it
later appears in the record as though they had actually said it. This
is an art that was honed to a fine edge many years ago by "the gang", so
I am very sensitive to it. Peter tried it on me just yesterday in
another usenet newsgroup.


Regards,


John Byrns


John,

Your idol Jute is the very master of a variant this technique.


You should pay attention, Yaeger. John told us not long ago that his
beau ideal (John is too level-headed to have false gods, which is what
idols are) was the leader of the research lab at RCA in the early
years.

He makes up stuff about people and then repeats it as fact, ad nauseum.


This is a lie.

If you're referring to me calling you Garage Vermin, Yaeger, I didn't
make that up. You must thank the Master himself, Phil Allison, Elegant
Inventor of Incisive Invective. It was too apt a description of you
for me to bother inventing my own. I just borrowed it from Phil, with
his gracious permission and with grateful acknowledgement given at
suitable intervals (like now).

If you're referring to me calling you a Crooked Garage Trader, Yaeger,
you have many times admitted it, so it can't be made up. And even if
you hadn't admitted it, it wasn't made up, it was observed and then
tested in adversarial debate and proved when you publicly lied about
the quality of Magnequest transformers you were trying to sell to West
at the same time as you found them not good enough for yourself. At
the same time you lied about the provenance of an amplifier you had
bought from Pasternack. I pointed out that either Pasternack lied to
you or you knowingly lied about who designed that amplifier. Instead
of correcting your description, you abused me in public. That makes
you a Crooked Garage Trader, from observation and proof, as I say. No
invention required.

But I realize that sometimes we are blinded to our loved one's failings


Jon


AKA John and Jono when he needs a new name to hide behind when he's
ripping a newbie.

Remember this, Yaeger, you're the one who first assaulted me, when you
thought you had a gang behind you. You were a lot cockier then.

Unsigned out of contempt


John Byrns September 14th 07 12:36 PM

Dickless Wiecky's motor: bent rod, firing on zero cylinders More from the Don Pearce School of Miscalculation, was Williamson by QUAD?
 
In article ,
bill ramsay blah@blahdeblah wrote:

isn't this getting rather tiresome?

give it a rest.

who cares if it's 60, 90 or 112.7?


Someone must have cared or 60 & 112.7 degree V8s would have been more
popular.


Regards,

John Byrns

--
Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/


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