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Andre Jute September 7th 07 02:22 PM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 
On Sep 7, 6:26 am, Patrick Turner wrote to
John Byrns:
I found a posted pdf with a brief map of the Canbera suburbs showing
blue lines for
cycle paths.


http://www.tams.act.gov.au/__data/as...12564/report_s...


If I ride that map from Watson to maximum north, then maximum south and
back home
along whatever is the shortest route its well over 100km, and takes me
about 5 hours,
non stop, and maybe I use about 3,000 calories....

Patrick Turner.


I take it those are "nutrition calories" or in fact 3,000,000
calories.

If your respiration rate shoots up like that on hand of a little
exercise, Patrick, you really want to get fit. I mean, after all,
you're just sixty, these days a relatively young man.

I ride here
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...simon%201.html
and back via here
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...simon%202.html
and burn just 118 nutritionist's calories in 22Km (1).

Andre Jute
No real corpses were harmed in the assembly of my golem Worthless
Wieckless. I made him by stuffing a cow's bladder with pig offal. --
CE Statement of Conformity

(1) My Ciclosport HAC4 measures power expenditure in watts, so the
reading has to be converted. A convenient way is to take the reported
average power at the end of the ride, multiply the reading by the
hours of actual pedalling reported, and subtract one seventh of the
result; the remainder is in real kilocals or nutrion calories. Just
for the sake of absolute honesty among the paranoids here, the HAC4
assumes that on the level or downhill the cyclist expends no energy
whatsoever (!!!), so it calculates power expenditure only while
pedalling uphill.


Arny Krueger September 7th 07 02:35 PM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 7, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Tiresome blather" is a phrase we often hear from people who somehow
oblige
themselves to listen to talks about something that is way over their
head.


Far more likely to be beneath their dignity.


Interesting Peter that you can equate ignorance with dignity and keep a
straight facer. Now that takes serious levels of pomposity!


Putting on airs without sufficient cleverness is your speciality.


What airs Peter? Apparently you decided to play Johnny-come-lately white
knight on a horse, and get revenge against me for who I don't really quite
know. Now those are some heady airs you are putting on, there.
Unfortunately, it backfired - big time!

Lots of data passes through,
very little content is included other than tree-tops posturing.


Just the relevant facts, ma-am.

Oh, since when have you adopted the Royal We?


Its not about royalty, its about the problem with dealing with noisy
know-it-alls, who much to their embarassment, don't know it all.

You do understand that your symbiosis with the commander is based on
this behavior?


I understand rage that some people experience after humiliating themselves
in public, and what it drives them to. Makes people say the darnedest
things!

As far as the Middiot goes, his animator did manage to humiliate himself in
public a great many times, which resulted in him developing the Middiot
persona for revenge. I think I know who the Middiot's animator is, and
frankly the more time and experience I get, he reminds me of a certain Peter
unhh W-something...



Ian Iveson September 7th 07 02:47 PM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 
Keith G said

..and after a break of at least a couple of years, puddling one
backwards down a fairly sharp conctrete ramp isn't something you
want to try too quickly until you get familiar with it!


Even after years of practice, I find riding a motorcycle backwards
almost impossible. I still pootle gingerly, and just hope it doesn't
look as ungainly as it feels.

Lots of positive feedback in the steering, and unsettling reaction
from the brakes.

In theory the most elegant option is to freewheel feet-up backwards in
an arc without touching the brakes until you are pointing downhill,
and then zoom off in one seamless manoevre. Never summoned up the
courage.

Ian



Keith G September 7th 07 03:54 PM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 

"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
. uk...
Keith G said

..and after a break of at least a couple of years, puddling one
backwards down a fairly sharp conctrete ramp isn't something you want
to try too quickly until you get familiar with it!


Even after years of practice, I find riding a motorcycle backwards
almost impossible. I still pootle gingerly, and just hope it doesn't
look as ungainly as it feels.



Yes, it always does - especially when you are at full stretch!!




Lots of positive feedback in the steering, and unsettling reaction
from the brakes.

In theory the most elegant option is to freewheel feet-up backwards in
an arc without touching the brakes until you are pointing downhill,
and then zoom off in one seamless manoevre. Never summoned up the
courage.



I can scoot down that ramp backwards and turn the bike with only a
couple of dabs with my right foot, but that was the first time my son
had been on a bike in a couple of years!





Peter Wieck September 7th 07 05:43 PM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 
On Sep 7, 10:22 am, Andre Jute wrote:

The usual pretentious tripe.


Hey there, Mr. Jute.

Let's try a new concept given your past poses and demonstrated
Munchausen Syndrome.

Let's see some identifiable pictures of *you* on the bicycle, perhaps
holding a local paper showing date and headline. Otherwise, it is far
more credible that you have found some pictures and simply posted them
to your website without other than your word (*chuckle*) as
provenance.

I seem to remember pictures offered with your book posed carefully as
if to represent the present you... It is all of-a-piece. What are you
hiding?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA



[email protected] September 7th 07 11:02 PM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:27:41 -0700, Andre Jute
wrote:

Techieporn for you.

My Trek Navigator L700 "Smover"
Bicycle with Automatic Gearchange and Electronic Adaptive Suspension
delivered by Shimano Di2 Cyber Nexus Groupset

a photo essay by André Jute

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...%20Smover.html

Probably could buy a car for what that costs...

Ian Iveson September 8th 07 02:03 AM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 
I can scoot down that ramp backwards and turn the bike with only a
couple of dabs with my right foot, but that was the first time my
son had been on a bike in a couple of years!


Then you shall be my inspiration. Can't be outdone by a uk.rec.audio
stripling. Hang on a mo....

Hmm...bugger. Nearly cost me two indicators and a mirror. I blame the
Metzlers. All the same I have discovered the perfect manoevre that
works even in confined spaces. You start off like you are going to
freewheel in an arc feet up, but as soon as you gather a bit of speed
and start to turn you grab the front brake, as if in panic, whereupon
the anti-dive (GPZ900) flings the front end up so the bike pivots
about the footrests and applies the rear brake to sustain the skewed
reverse stoppie. Now you can use the momentum in the desired direction
of travel to pirouette a half turn, putting you in the perfect
position to wheelie off down the street to the envious amazement of
your puny neighbours. It all looks very Lone Ranger.

Didn't quite make the half-twist this time. The several dozen
Slovakians that live next door are still jeering.

I remember a film...Buster Keeton or Keystone Cops I guess, where a
policeman reverses a motorcycle...an Indian maybe...so naturally like
you might not notice anything peculiar. I believe reverse gears were
quite common for sidecar duty.

If you've never tried a combo, BTW, you should. Not with linked
sidecar brake, which ruins all the fun. Turns those wet autumn leaves
into total entertainment.

Ian




Eiron September 8th 07 07:42 AM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptivesuspension
 
Andre Jute wrote:

Those brakes aren't dodgy, Don, they're hyper-competent; what I forgot
to add is that they have a built-in modulator. They stop the one-
eighth of a ton of me and the bike and light touring gear from thirty
kph in 11 feet. I know, because I chewed up a pair of tyres while I
practiced that one to perfection. But I agree with you, for casual use
those roller brakes are overkill.


A fat man on a granny bike braking at over 1g!
Don't the laws of physics apply in Eire these days?

--
Eiron.

Don Pearce September 8th 07 08:22 AM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptive suspension
 
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:42:58 +0100, Eiron wrote:

Andre Jute wrote:

Those brakes aren't dodgy, Don, they're hyper-competent; what I forgot
to add is that they have a built-in modulator. They stop the one-
eighth of a ton of me and the bike and light touring gear from thirty
kph in 11 feet. I know, because I chewed up a pair of tyres while I
practiced that one to perfection. But I agree with you, for casual use
those roller brakes are overkill.


A fat man on a granny bike braking at over 1g!
Don't the laws of physics apply in Eire these days?


Quite so. That comes out at 1.05g. Centre of mass combined with
wheelbase tell us that he performed the last 8 feet of that stop flat
on his face in the road. But that is a perfectly legitimate way of
stopping your bike.

Anyone who wants to do the sum the easy way just pop this

(30 kph)^2 / (2 * 11 ft) in g

into Google. I rarely use an other calculator these days.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Roy September 8th 07 09:06 AM

Smooth Mover: bicycle with electronic gearchange and adaptivesuspension
 
Andre Jute wrote:
Techieporn for you.

My Trek Navigator L700 "Smover"
Bicycle with Automatic Gearchange and Electronic Adaptive Suspension
delivered by Shimano Di2 Cyber Nexus Groupset

a photo essay by André Jute

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...%20Smover.html


Much too messy.

Proper bike:

http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?mo... &PAGE_id=131

Roy.


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