OK. Here's another mic comparison:

A double-rigged session with one pair of mics following another in this
single clip:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Comparison.mp3


Comments and observations invited, as usual....

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:08:40 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Comparison.mp3

I only listened on speakers in my laptop, but even that way, number
two sounded pretty shrill in comparison with 1.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:08:40 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Comparison.mp3

I only listened on speakers in my laptop, but even that way, number
two sounded pretty shrill in comparison with 1.


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate *extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:08:40 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Comparison.mp3

I only listened on speakers in my laptop, but even that way, number
two sounded pretty shrill in comparison with 1.


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate *extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

i'll do that a bit later - just veging in front of the telly right
now. Bugger all on, as usual.

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:08:40 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Comparison.mp3

I only listened on speakers in my laptop, but even that way, number
two sounded pretty shrill in comparison with 1.


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate *extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

OK, just plugged the laptop into the hi fi. On number two, the whole
thing has a tilted feel towards the top end. The bass is much lighter,
and the top is much brighter. I prefer number 1.

So did I pick the 100 or the 1?

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate *extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing
else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing
over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

OK, just plugged the laptop into the hi fi. On number two, the whole
thing has a tilted feel towards the top end. The bass is much lighter,
and the top is much brighter. I prefer number 1.

So did I pick the 100 or the 1?


Actually, I got that wrong - the price differential is more like 10:1
but it's still significant!

OK, you are choosing the expensive mics - as you have probably gathered,
they ain't mine! (I don't have that many musicians here!! :-)

And now the cat's out of the bag, the 'owner' may come forward with more
information, but what I think is interesting is that I think the second
clip sounds quite good in its own right and it seems to me that if you
play the second clip first it can actually make the first clip sound a
bit 'boomy' by comparison!

(It seems I like a brighter sound - I wonder if it's my hearing???)

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:43:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate *extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing
else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing
over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

OK, just plugged the laptop into the hi fi. On number two, the whole
thing has a tilted feel towards the top end. The bass is much lighter,
and the top is much brighter. I prefer number 1.

So did I pick the 100 or the 1?


Actually, I got that wrong - the price differential is more like 10:1
but it's still significant!

OK, you are choosing the expensive mics - as you have probably gathered,
they ain't mine! (I don't have that many musicians here!! :-)

And now the cat's out of the bag, the 'owner' may come forward with more
information, but what I think is interesting is that I think the second
clip sounds quite good in its own right and it seems to me that if you
play the second clip first it can actually make the first clip sound a
bit 'boomy' by comparison!

(It seems I like a brighter sound - I wonder if it's my hearing???)


It is more than likely that you are losing a bit of top end. We never
did manage to do that test a while ago cos you only had a laptop for a
source, and they just put out odd frequencies all over the place.

Any road up, what were those mics?

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:43:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate
*extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing
else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing
over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

OK, just plugged the laptop into the hi fi. On number two, the whole
thing has a tilted feel towards the top end. The bass is much
lighter,
and the top is much brighter. I prefer number 1.

So did I pick the 100 or the 1?


Actually, I got that wrong - the price differential is more like 10:1
but it's still significant!

OK, you are choosing the expensive mics - as you have probably
gathered,
they ain't mine! (I don't have that many musicians here!! :-)

And now the cat's out of the bag, the 'owner' may come forward with
more
information, but what I think is interesting is that I think the
second
clip sounds quite good in its own right and it seems to me that if you
play the second clip first it can actually make the first clip sound a
bit 'boomy' by comparison!

(It seems I like a brighter sound - I wonder if it's my hearing???)


It is more than likely that you are losing a bit of top end. We never
did manage to do that test a while ago cos you only had a laptop for a
source, and they just put out odd frequencies all over the place.

Any road up, what were those mics?



Neumann M49 (I believe) and *unbadged* cheepie Chinkies!!

Their owner may have more to say - I can't, but what a contrast, eh?

No-one is arguing that you don't get what you pay for but my point is
that for a fraction of the price of a *quality* mic, the Chinkies are
far from a complete waste of time - *if* they are working OK!!

(My plan is that when/if ever our recording sessions get good enough I
may well punt the necessary for a decent pair of mics....)

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:11:26 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:43:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate
*extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing
else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and playing
over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

OK, just plugged the laptop into the hi fi. On number two, the whole
thing has a tilted feel towards the top end. The bass is much
lighter,
and the top is much brighter. I prefer number 1.

So did I pick the 100 or the 1?


Actually, I got that wrong - the price differential is more like 10:1
but it's still significant!

OK, you are choosing the expensive mics - as you have probably
gathered,
they ain't mine! (I don't have that many musicians here!! :-)

And now the cat's out of the bag, the 'owner' may come forward with
more
information, but what I think is interesting is that I think the
second
clip sounds quite good in its own right and it seems to me that if you
play the second clip first it can actually make the first clip sound a
bit 'boomy' by comparison!

(It seems I like a brighter sound - I wonder if it's my hearing???)


It is more than likely that you are losing a bit of top end. We never
did manage to do that test a while ago cos you only had a laptop for a
source, and they just put out odd frequencies all over the place.

Any road up, what were those mics?



Neumann M49 (I believe) and *unbadged* cheepie Chinkies!!

Their owner may have more to say - I can't, but what a contrast, eh?

No-one is arguing that you don't get what you pay for but my point is
that for a fraction of the price of a *quality* mic, the Chinkies are
far from a complete waste of time - *if* they are working OK!!

(My plan is that when/if ever our recording sessions get good enough I
may well punt the necessary for a decent pair of mics....)


OK, I've done a quick bit of work on the cheepy chinky to try and make
it sound like the Neumann. waddya think?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/OtherMicComparison[eq].mp3

Is the Neumann worth the extra?

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:11:26 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:43:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:13:53 +0100, "Keith G"

wrote:


Laptop speakers???

I would have thought this comparison represents the ultimate
*extreme*
between two different pairs of mics on a price basis, if nothing
else -
well worth a pair of headphones, if not burning to disk and
playing
over
your hifi system!!

(Hint: A price differential of possibly 100:1 !!??)

OK, just plugged the laptop into the hi fi. On number two, the
whole
thing has a tilted feel towards the top end. The bass is much
lighter,
and the top is much brighter. I prefer number 1.

So did I pick the 100 or the 1?


Actually, I got that wrong - the price differential is more like
10:1
but it's still significant!

OK, you are choosing the expensive mics - as you have probably
gathered,
they ain't mine! (I don't have that many musicians here!! :-)

And now the cat's out of the bag, the 'owner' may come forward with
more
information, but what I think is interesting is that I think the
second
clip sounds quite good in its own right and it seems to me that if
you
play the second clip first it can actually make the first clip sound
a
bit 'boomy' by comparison!

(It seems I like a brighter sound - I wonder if it's my hearing???)


It is more than likely that you are losing a bit of top end. We
never
did manage to do that test a while ago cos you only had a laptop for
a
source, and they just put out odd frequencies all over the place.

Any road up, what were those mics?



Neumann M49 (I believe) and *unbadged* cheepie Chinkies!!

Their owner may have more to say - I can't, but what a contrast, eh?

No-one is arguing that you don't get what you pay for but my point is
that for a fraction of the price of a *quality* mic, the Chinkies are
far from a complete waste of time - *if* they are working OK!!

(My plan is that when/if ever our recording sessions get good enough I
may well punt the necessary for a decent pair of mics....)


OK, I've done a quick bit of work on the cheepy chinky to try and make
it sound like the Neumann. waddya think?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/OtherMicComparison[eq].mp3

Is the Neumann worth the extra?



Well, on headphones, I can't split them now!!

More anon - in the middle of a movie now!!