But can *you* believe?
 

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone things down a
bit' and my current line of internet research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*

But can *you* believe?
 

Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone
things down a bit' and my current line of internet
research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*

They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of
consumerism. I see they are cutting back production, again.

Ian

But can *you* believe?
 

"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
k...
Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone things down
a bit' and my current line of internet research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*

They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of consumerism. I see
they are cutting back production, again.



Not surprised - I would have thought all that gay **** in ads like the
above clip would have put off as many (or more) people than it
attracted...??

But can *you* believe?
 

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:48:35 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
. uk...
Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone things down
a bit' and my current line of internet research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*

They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of consumerism. I see
they are cutting back production, again.



Not surprised - I would have thought all that gay **** in ads like the
above clip would have put off as many (or more) people than it
attracted...??

I think they have the market pretty much spot on. Certainly here in
the UK Harleys and the like (Gold Wings etc) seem to be pretty much
the preserve of hairdressers named Hilary and their mates with
slightly oversized moustaches.

Mind you, that ad is almost puke-inducingly American - you would need
to be credulous in the extreme not to be howling with laughter by the
end.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

But can *you* believe?
 

Keith G wrote:
"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
k...
Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone things down
a bit' and my current line of internet research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*
They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of consumerism. I see
they are cutting back production, again.



Not surprised - I would have thought all that gay **** in ads like the
above clip would have put off as many (or more) people than it
attracted...??


You seen the 'Pistachio' episode of Lead Balloon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/leadballoon/episodes.shtml

V. amusing take on Harley ownership :-)

Rob

Honda's better way, was But can *you* believe?
 

On Sep 18, 6:28 pm, "Ian Iveson"
wrote:
Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone
things down a bit' and my current line of internet
research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C.../Creed_Video.j...

How could I *not* share?

*boggle*

They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of
consumerism. I see they are cutting back production, again.

Ian

I hadn't suspected you of being such an instinctively smart marketer,
Ian.

Soichiro Honda decided, when he was a Japanese tadpole of a
manufacturer, that the only way he could establish his motorcycles was
to race creditably at the Tourist Trophy, the toughest motorbike race
in the world. Honda has never deviated from that decision for a
moment, merely extending it to many other forms of racing. You cannot
begin to imagine how expensive a decision it was, and remains, and how
brave. But it tell you everything you want to know about Honda cycles,
even the Gold Wings (which I admire when they hold their annual bash
in my town).

Harley-Davidson by contrast, has lost its way; it has become a fashion
accessory rather than a motorcycle, a "luxury" item where the brand
name and the price is more important than the engineering. Yech!

Honda's better way, was But can *you* believe?
 

In article .com,
Andre Jute wrote:
Harley-Davidson by contrast, has lost its way; it has become a fashion
accessory rather than a motorcycle, a "luxury" item where the brand
name and the price is more important than the engineering. Yech!

I was filming in a rather posh penthouse flat last week - on the Thames
with views of Big Ben. And there was a brand new Harley in there. Never
been driven - or likely to be. Cost 3 grand to get it up there, I'm told.
Dunno if the owner had another for driving, though.

--
*Why is it that doctors call what they do "practice"?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Honda's better way, was But can *you* believe?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Andre Jute wrote:
Harley-Davidson by contrast, has lost its way; it has become a
fashion
accessory rather than a motorcycle, a "luxury" item where the brand
name and the price is more important than the engineering. Yech!


The bike became a 'luxury' item in the US the day a Model T Ford car was
available cheaper than a Harrlee....

Personally, I think there's a perfect parallel between HD bikes and
expensive, glitzy valve amps - some people prefer 'old technology' done
well and with style to modern technology done bland....



I was filming in a rather posh penthouse flat last week - on the
Thames
with views of Big Ben. And there was a brand new Harley in there.
Never
been driven - or likely to be. Cost 3 grand to get it up there, I'm
told.
Dunno if the owner had another for driving, though.


A Harrlee in your flat is a lot safer bet than a Steinway - nobody's
going to put you on the spot and ask you to ride it, are they??

(Takes up less space and a lot cheaper too....)

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:48:35 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
.uk...
Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone things
down
a bit' and my current line of internet research led me to this :

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*

They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of consumerism. I see
they are cutting back production, again.



Not surprised - I would have thought all that gay **** in ads like the
above clip would have put off as many (or more) people than it
attracted...??

I think they have the market pretty much spot on. Certainly here in
the UK Harleys and the like (Gold Wings etc) seem to be pretty much
the preserve of hairdressers named Hilary and their mates with
slightly oversized moustaches.


I think the market is opening up a bit these days and Harleys are very
popular with SKIers, apparently...



Mind you, that ad is almost puke-inducingly American - you would need
to be credulous in the extreme not to be howling with laughter by the
end.


True for any Yank ad of that length, I think you'll find....

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"Rob" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:
"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
k...
Keith G wrote

Recent events have had me wondering if it's time to 'tone things
down a bit' and my current line of internet research led me to this
:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...uiser_expcreed


How could I *not* share?

*boggle*
They pay regularly for being at the fluffy end of consumerism. I see
they are cutting back production, again.



Not surprised - I would have thought all that gay **** in ads like
the above clip would have put off as many (or more) people than it
attracted...??


You seen the 'Pistachio' episode of Lead Balloon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/leadballoon/episodes.shtml

V. amusing take on Harley ownership :-)



Never heard of it - I only watch the News, Shaun The Sheep and various
recorded 'arts' programmes....