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So what are the best Chinese valve amps???



 
 
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Old September 21st 07, 10:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default So what are the best Chinese valve amps???


"Andy Evans" wrote in message
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am happy to say that the Bez that I have here (T3B-3) is the best
Chinese valve amp I have heard also - I'm very fond of it, love its
'personality' and never tire of the sound

Seems they got everything right with this one. But I wonder if it's
made from the same parts in the same factory throughout its life -
Chinese stuff seems to emerge under all sorts of names and dealers.

It's true that most stuff is built in China. You pay more for good
design and quality control when you buy it in the UK under a UK brand
name. But in the case of the Bez, I think the quality of it has been
sufficiently proven. A little classic in its way.



The Bez site has got to be the worst site on the whole 'Net:

http://www.bezdz.com/


If you've got half a day to bugger about and click links as you find
them you will find all sorts of stuff! Pages come and go randomly it
seems and once there was a page with no end of different amps, but it
seems to missing lately. (You almost wonder if they were capable of
producing the same amp twice!!)

But like I say, I love mine - I switch it on, it farts and pops for a
while then it settles down. If the farting goes on too long I whack one
of the drivers over the head and that usually does the trick -

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/myhifi/Bez%20T3B-3.JPG

- second from the left, front row! (I've got spares but why TF should I
give in to it??) If I feed it a rectifier from time to time it'll play
all day long, happy as Larry!

(It's on its 3rd Chinese 274B rectifier now - they are *not* good; the
one that's in it atm will fluff up all pink for a few moments at
switch-on from time to time, but then it settles down! It's a kind of
*powerplay* - you've got to show it you're not impressed!! :-)




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Old September 22nd 07, 09:52 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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Default So what are the best Chinese valve amps???

On Sep 21, 11:50?pm, "Keith G" wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message

oups.com...

am happy to say that the Bez that I have here (T3B-3) is the best
Chinese valve amp I have heard also - I'm very fond of it, love its
'personality' and never tire of the sound


Seems they got everything right with this one. But I wonder if it's
made from the same parts in the same factory throughout its life -
Chinese stuff seems to emerge under all sorts of names and dealers.


It's true that most stuff is built in China. You pay more for good
design and quality control when you buy it in the UK under a UK brand
name. But in the case of the Bez, I think the quality of it has been
sufficiently proven. A little classic in its way.


The Bez site has got to be the worst site on the whole 'Net:

http://www.bezdz.com/

If you've got half a day to bugger about and click links as you find
them you will find all sorts of stuff! Pages come and go randomly it
seems and once there was a page with no end of different amps, but it
seems to missing lately. (You almost wonder if they were capable of
producing the same amp twice!!)

But like I say, I love mine - I switch it on, it farts and pops for a
while then it settles down. If the farting goes on too long I whack one
of the drivers over the head and that usually does the trick -

Sounds like a dodgy socket or a bad solder joint - the dreaded
"involuntary farting". Is there a PCB or is it point to point?

standard mods are a Mullard rectifier, 6J7G and 6P5GT

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Old September 22nd 07, 10:55 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default So what are the best Chinese valve amps???


"Andy Evans" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 11:50?pm, "Keith G" wrote:



But like I say, I love mine - I switch it on, it farts and pops for a
while then it settles down. If the farting goes on too long I whack
one
of the drivers over the head and that usually does the trick -

Sounds like a dodgy socket or a bad solder joint - the dreaded
"involuntary farting". Is there a PCB or is it point to point?



Point to point:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/BezWiring.JPG


standard mods are a Mullard rectifier, 6J7G and 6P5GT



Whacking a valve on the head from time to time is quicker/cheaper....
:-)




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Old September 22nd 07, 09:55 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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Default So what are the best Chinese valve amps???

On Sep 21, 11:50?pm, "Keith G" wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message

oups.com...

am happy to say that the Bez that I have here (T3B-3) is the best
Chinese valve amp I have heard also - I'm very fond of it, love its
'personality' and never tire of the sound


Seems they got everything right with this one. But I wonder if it's
made from the same parts in the same factory throughout its life -
Chinese stuff seems to emerge under all sorts of names and dealers.


It's true that most stuff is built in China. You pay more for good
design and quality control when you buy it in the UK under a UK brand
name. But in the case of the Bez, I think the quality of it has been
sufficiently proven. A little classic in its way.


The Bez site has got to be the worst site on the whole 'Net:

http://www.bezdz.com/


http://www.bezdz.com/images2/28%BA%C...E2%CD%BC .bmp

Clearly it has a very odd circuit, using devices unknown in the
West....

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Old September 22nd 07, 10:55 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default So what are the best Chinese valve amps???


"Andy Evans" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 21, 11:50?pm, "Keith G" wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message

oups.com...

am happy to say that the Bez that I have here (T3B-3) is the best
Chinese valve amp I have heard also - I'm very fond of it, love its
'personality' and never tire of the sound


Seems they got everything right with this one. But I wonder if it's
made from the same parts in the same factory throughout its life -
Chinese stuff seems to emerge under all sorts of names and dealers.


It's true that most stuff is built in China. You pay more for good
design and quality control when you buy it in the UK under a UK
brand
name. But in the case of the Bez, I think the quality of it has
been
sufficiently proven. A little classic in its way.


The Bez site has got to be the worst site on the whole 'Net:

http://www.bezdz.com/


http://www.bezdz.com/images2/28%BA%C...E2%CD%BC .bmp

Clearly it has a very odd circuit, using devices unknown in the
West....



That link comes up as a street plan on my machine - here's the circuit:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...%20Circuit.JPG


The only components I've had fail* were the volume pot (replaced with an
Alps) and the lead on one of the *German* capacitors broke - fixed in a
heartbeat. If you are realistic about the amount of money that falls off
'hifi gear' values as they age (from new), this amp now owes me
virtually nothing and, I suspect, it will around for a long time yet. It
has become 'one of the family'!

*So far....

:-)



 




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