Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their
items of kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth
it their price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and
copy thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from
one player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when
I switched back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used -
no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt
it....


Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

If there are any links to any costing £1.75, I'd be grateful to know :-)
I'd seriously like to find a cheap replacement for my original philips (as
the display is knackered)
For a mains operated machine, it's cheaper to by a cheap DVD player, though
it seems rather a waste.

Some people still think theres some difference:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280157210823

Standing at £2,125 at the moment with 29 eager bidders! Amazing!

In article ,
says...
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their
items of kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth
it their price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and
copy thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from
one player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when
I switched back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used -
no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt
it....


Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

If there are any links to any costing £1.75, I'd be grateful to know :-)
I'd seriously like to find a cheap replacement for my original philips (as
the display is knackered)
For a mains operated machine, it's cheaper to by a cheap DVD player, though
it seems rather a waste.

Some people still think theres some difference:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280157210823

Standing at £2,125 at the moment with 29 eager bidders! Amazing!




I like this guy's question:

"please confirm the shipping cost to Hanoi, Vietnam. Can I pay and my
friend visit you to take it on my behalf ?"

--
Halmyre

What in Swansea are going on here?!

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?) simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....



Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Back from my hols....

Completely agree. Once the performance betters the threshold of perception,
then all players will sound the same. Thresholds of perception have been
well recognised, at least amongst audio professionals, for at least 30
years.

S.

--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 3 Oct, 13:16, "Keith G" wrote:
"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote

Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.

Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?) simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....

Thats very interesting. Thanks for the detailed reply Keith.
I myself have a Liteon DVD/HDD doing the CD player MP3 stuff and I
really couldn't tell much difference (if any) over my Marantz. The
only reason I kept it was because it was a CD recorder which I
sometimes use when I dust down some old vinyl and decide I want it
'more readily available'

Cheers


See my reply to Don - when I play a CD these days (don't do it often but I
have a 'spate' from time to time) I do so on a Pioneer DVD player which
doubles up for movies (unsurprisingly). If anyone asked me what was the
*best* player I have here I would have to say there's really no difference
between them but, for some strange reason, I always find the Panasonic
DMR-ES15 DVD Single Disc Recorder particularly pleasing to use - maybe
it's the superquick drawer...??

(Usually, if a bit of kit stands out above the others it's because it's a
little bit louder!! :-)

One CD player (or indeed any item of equipment) can be preferred over
another for many reasons which have nothing to do with audio performance:-

One player may have a more satisfying open/close mechanism, another may have
button with a better feel, another again may operate faster....lots of
reasons for preferring one player (and paying a premium for) over another.
In my case, if I had to replace my Meridian 206, I would choose another
Meridian for no better reason than to keep the overall system remote control
the same, and not have to have a second unit.

S.



--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

"jasee" wrote in message
...
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their
items of kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth
it their price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and
copy thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from
one player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when
I switched back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used -
no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt
it....


Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

If there are any links to any costing £1.75, I'd be grateful to know :-)
I'd seriously like to find a cheap replacement for my original philips (as
the display is knackered)
For a mains operated machine, it's cheaper to by a cheap DVD player,
though it seems rather a waste.

Some people still think theres some difference:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280157210823

Standing at £2,125 at the moment with 29 eager bidders! Amazing!



And it is essential to have an Audio Desk system CD sound improver for only
£320 to go with it. From Russ Andrews, of course, at
http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...YW ZBWGSUGMEH
--

JohnT

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Malcolm H wrote:

Acoustic Solutions SP101 stereo amplifier £59.99 from Argos - questions:

1. Comments and experiences?
2. Does it have a headphone output?

All comments will be read gratefully.

I've seen a couple of reviews when i was looking for a new amp that
mentioned hiss. This lad's review gives you a rundown of what to
expect, mentioning the headphone socket (full size) and has some
positives aswell as negatives.

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Acoustic_Solut...Review_5617232

I've had one for over a year now, and I think it's the bees knees.

I haven't noticed any hiss in normal use, but that might depend on what you
listen to with it and the characteristics of the speakers.

One slight niggle is that if you switch the power off immediately after
adjusting the volume, the last volume change isn't remembered - so it could
blare out at you in the morning.

--
Max Demian

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Yes I noticed that don't know why, my posts are usually ok.. The
quotes it this are correct aren't they?

OE Quotefix would probaly be useful to you.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/oequotefix.html


That is a fix for a different problem. Still necessary, though.

Since you've moved off the thread could you snip the irrelevant stuff in
future? ;-)

--
*It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:48:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Yes I noticed that don't know why, my posts are usually ok.. The
quotes it this are correct aren't they?

OE Quotefix would probaly be useful to you.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/oequotefix.html


That is a fix for a different problem. Still necessary, though.

Since you've moved off the thread could you snip the irrelevant stuff in
future? ;-)

There really wasn't enough of it to bother ;-)

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Max Demian wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Malcolm H wrote:

Acoustic Solutions SP101 stereo amplifier £59.99 from Argos - questions:

1. Comments and experiences?
2. Does it have a headphone output?

All comments will be read gratefully.

I've seen a couple of reviews when i was looking for a new amp that
mentioned hiss. This lad's review gives you a rundown of what to
expect, mentioning the headphone socket (full size) and has some
positives aswell as negatives.

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Acoustic_Solut...Review_5617232

I've had one for over a year now, and I think it's the bees knees.

I haven't noticed any hiss in normal use, but that might depend on what you
listen to with it and the characteristics of the speakers.

One slight niggle is that if you switch the power off immediately after
adjusting the volume, the last volume change isn't remembered - so it could
blare out at you in the morning.

--
Max Demian

where were you when I needed you? :O)

--
Paul (We won't die of devotion)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

"Don Pearce" wrote


There really wasn't enough of it to bother ;-)


Yes there was - stop arguing!

Now kindly play these clips (about 50 seconds each) pick a 'best' (or
least worst) and comment on them:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Version%20A.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Version%20B.mp3


They are quite different from the usual!!