On 3 Oct, 12:47, "Keith G" wrote:
"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote in message

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On 3 Oct, 10:55, "Keith G" wrote:





"Malcolm H" wrote in message

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Acoustic Solutions SP101 stereo amplifier £59.99 from Argos -
questions:

1. Comments and experiences?
2. Does it have a headphone output?

All comments will be read gratefully.

Thanks

I bought the Argos Acoustic Solutions matching '3 piece suite'
(Amp/CD/DAB) to investigate them:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...cSolutions.JPG

The amp is very well featured with 'digital everything' all controlled
by the one knob and it does have have headphone socket.

Plenty of information he

http://www.acousticsolutions.net/product.asp?ID=92

Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.

Doc

"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?) simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?) simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....



Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items
of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I
switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....



Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.


Agreed. When I mentioned the comparison here a while back there was a
reaction from someone who said the internal attenuation in the Marantz
wouldn't be doing the output any favours, but just using it normally (no
attenuation at all) on various kit combinations never once led me to
believe the sound was discernably different to the AS CDP or any of the
DVDPs I use to play CDs!!

Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their
items of kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth
it their price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and
copy thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from
one player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when
I switched back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used -
no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt
it....


Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

If there are any links to any costing £1.75, I'd be grateful to know :-)
I'd seriously like to find a cheap replacement for my original philips (as
the display is knackered)
For a mains operated machine, it's cheaper to by a cheap DVD player, though
it seems rather a waste.

Some people still think theres some difference:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280157210823

Standing at £2,125 at the moment with 29 eager bidders! Amazing!

In article ,
says...
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their
items of kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth
it their price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and
copy thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from
one player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when
I switched back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used -
no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt
it....


Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

If there are any links to any costing £1.75, I'd be grateful to know :-)
I'd seriously like to find a cheap replacement for my original philips (as
the display is knackered)
For a mains operated machine, it's cheaper to by a cheap DVD player, though
it seems rather a waste.

Some people still think theres some difference:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280157210823

Standing at £2,125 at the moment with 29 eager bidders! Amazing!




I like this guy's question:

"please confirm the shipping cost to Hanoi, Vietnam. Can I pay and my
friend visit you to take it on my behalf ?"

--
Halmyre

What in Swansea are going on here?!

"jasee" wrote in message
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their
items of kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth
it their price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and
copy thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from
one player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when
I switched back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used -
no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt
it....


Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

If there are any links to any costing £1.75, I'd be grateful to know :-)
I'd seriously like to find a cheap replacement for my original philips (as
the display is knackered)
For a mains operated machine, it's cheaper to by a cheap DVD player,
though it seems rather a waste.

Some people still think theres some difference:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280157210823

Standing at £2,125 at the moment with 29 eager bidders! Amazing!



And it is essential to have an Audio Desk system CD sound improver for only
£320 to go with it. From Russ Andrews, of course, at
http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...YW ZBWGSUGMEH
--

JohnT

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:16:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote


Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.



Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?) simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....



Nope, no illusion. All CD players costing more than £1.75 now sound
perfect. There is no such thing as a high end CD player any more.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Back from my hols....

Completely agree. Once the performance betters the threshold of perception,
then all players will sound the same. Thresholds of perception have been
well recognised, at least amongst audio professionals, for at least 30
years.

S.

--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

On 3 Oct, 13:16, "Keith G" wrote:
"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote

Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it their
price level.

Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?) simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....

Thats very interesting. Thanks for the detailed reply Keith.
I myself have a Liteon DVD/HDD doing the CD player MP3 stuff and I
really couldn't tell much difference (if any) over my Marantz. The
only reason I kept it was because it was a CD recorder which I
sometimes use when I dust down some old vinyl and decide I want it
'more readily available'

Cheers

Doc

"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote in message
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On 3 Oct, 13:16, "Keith G" wrote:
"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote

Not that pretty lights bother me (as in I don't need them) its a
shame
that AS can't get the same colour displays for each of their items
of
kit.

Yes and, if you closely, you will see that the drawer doesn't close
too
prettily either - small details that spoil an otherwise inexpensive
and
useful bit of kit (plays MP3 Cds) that wouldn't take a lot to sort
out!

Oh yeah.
How does it compare with the 63MkII for sound quality? I've never
come
across anything that matches those Marantz players for warmth it
their
price level.

Using the Marantz' own internal attenuation and juggling pause
buttons
to perfectly time align and level match the same CD (CD and copy
thereof) in both players the sound was *indistinguishable* from one
player to the other. A number of different people here (3 or 4?)
simply
couldn't tell which player was playing at any time, even when I
switched
back and forth (seamlessly) on the various amps I used - no ifs or
buts - 100%!!

Consequently, I shunted the Marantz out on eBay and the AS CDP now
resides in my overflowing 'spares cupboard'..!!

It's possible, of course, the rest of my kit may have masked
differences
that other kit might have shown up but I seriously doubt it....

Thats very interesting. Thanks for the detailed reply Keith.
I myself have a Liteon DVD/HDD doing the CD player MP3 stuff and I
really couldn't tell much difference (if any) over my Marantz. The
only reason I kept it was because it was a CD recorder which I
sometimes use when I dust down some old vinyl and decide I want it
'more readily available'

Cheers


See my reply to Don - when I play a CD these days (don't do it often but
I have a 'spate' from time to time) I do so on a Pioneer DVD player
which doubles up for movies (unsurprisingly). If anyone asked me what
was the *best* player I have here I would have to say there's really no
difference between them but, for some strange reason, I always find the
Panasonic DMR-ES15 DVD Single Disc Recorder particularly pleasing to
use - maybe it's the superquick drawer...??

(Usually, if a bit of kit stands out above the others it's because it's
a little bit louder!! :-)