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Old October 19th 07, 08:49 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'

??

TIA




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Old October 19th 07, 09:05 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:49:46 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'

??

TIA



That's 82dB

d

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Old October 19th 07, 11:47 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Don Pearce wrote:

"Keith G" wrote:

To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'


That's 82dB


I should have read the question properly shouldn't I ?

Yes. It's 82dB (AES method). That's remarkably insensitive.

Graham

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Old October 19th 07, 11:53 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:47:01 +0100, Eeyore
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Don Pearce wrote:

"Keith G" wrote:

To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'


That's 82dB


I should have read the question properly shouldn't I ?

Yes. It's 82dB (AES method). That's remarkably insensitive.

Graham


It's a TLS. And it uses the good old B139 driver, which was never the
loudest. A friend of mine bought a pair when they were new and I seem
to remember he paid a fortune for them. I did a quick measure-up and
went home and built my own pair for less than a tenth the price. I
used them for quite a while.

d

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Old October 19th 07, 12:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Don Pearce" wrote


It's a TLS. And it uses the good old B139 driver, which was never the
loudest. A friend of mine bought a pair when they were new and I seem
to remember he paid a fortune for them. I did a quick measure-up and
went home and built my own pair for less than a tenth the price. I
used them for quite a while.



And developed your taste for *excessive* bass? :-)

Well mine are on eBay now (Auction No. 270178019709) with a Start Price
of 200 quid, auction starting 9:00 pm, Sunday Night.

(Collect only - *crane* vehicle advised...!! :-)


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Old October 19th 07, 01:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:58:21 +0100, "Keith G"
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"Don Pearce" wrote


It's a TLS. And it uses the good old B139 driver, which was never the
loudest. A friend of mine bought a pair when they were new and I seem
to remember he paid a fortune for them. I did a quick measure-up and
went home and built my own pair for less than a tenth the price. I
used them for quite a while.



And developed your taste for *excessive* bass? :-)

To a midget, Tom Cruise is too tall, I suppose :-)

Well mine are on eBay now (Auction No. 270178019709) with a Start Price
of 200 quid, auction starting 9:00 pm, Sunday Night.

(Collect only - *crane* vehicle advised...!! :-)


It's all that Dr. Bailey's long fibre wool that does it.

d

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Old October 19th 07, 01:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Don Pearce wrote:

"Keith G" wrote:

To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'


That's 82dB


I should have read the question properly shouldn't I ?

Yes. It's 82dB (AES method). That's remarkably insensitive.


IME, not atypical for high end speakers.

I think the sensitivity of my NHT 2.5i speakers is in the same range.

Low efficiency is how you get deep bass out of small boxes, ya know! ;-)


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Old October 19th 07, 01:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:11:54 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Don Pearce wrote:

"Keith G" wrote:

To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'

That's 82dB


I should have read the question properly shouldn't I ?

Yes. It's 82dB (AES method). That's remarkably insensitive.


IME, not atypical for high end speakers.

I think the sensitivity of my NHT 2.5i speakers is in the same range.

Low efficiency is how you get deep bass out of small boxes, ya know! ;-)


I don't think anyone is going to call the IMF a small box. But then I
suppose it isn't really a box at all.

d

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Old October 20th 07, 03:28 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:11:54 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Don Pearce wrote:

"Keith G" wrote:

To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'

That's 82dB

I should have read the question properly shouldn't I ?

Yes. It's 82dB (AES method). That's remarkably insensitive.


IME, not atypical for high end speakers.

I think the sensitivity of my NHT 2.5i speakers is in the same range.

Low efficiency is how you get deep bass out of small boxes, ya know! ;-)


I don't think anyone is going to call the IMF a small box. But then I
suppose it isn't really a box at all.


The tech analysis of transmission line speakers I've seen say that its
simply a very wasteful way (in terms of volume versus bass extension versus
efficiency) to make a vented box. That may help explain the large size, all
other things considered.


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Old October 19th 07, 09:05 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Keith G wrote:
To spare my remaining active braincell (see other recent post) could
someone kindly tell me what the speaker sensitivity figure for 1 Watt
would be if the brochure (IMF TLS 80s) quotes:

'Efficiency measured via Pink Noise at 1 metre for 40 Watts = 98 dB'


82dB

i.e. 98 - 10*log(40)

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