"Keith G" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
I'm often struck by the disparity between the cause of something
and
the trigger for the same thing. It might be said that the cause of
the
huge fire in the petrol-soaked rag storage depot was a dropped
cigarette----

But a cigarette won't ignite petrol. The match that lit it will,
though.

A cigarette end can destroy a dry rag or paper. I couldn't get any
flames
but there was plenty of smoke and a red glow. So the problem in the
hypothetical depot is that someone let the rags dry out. :-)


OK, I'm going to try this in a little while - I didn't see a petrol
forecourt yet without a 'No Smoking sign' on it! I *know* you can
extinguish a cigarette in diesel, but I can't say from first hand that
a cigarette would *definitely* set fire to a petrol-soaked rag!

Maybe a little movie?

We'll see - could be fun...!!

:-)


Actually, it was a bit of a non-event and the ciggie *didn't* set the
rag on fire!! I did - with a lighter at the end of this clip which I
buggered up fishing for the lighter while I was squatting down!

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Experiment.wmv


(Not small at 12 Meg!!)

In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:

[snip]

I'd have thought you'd have learnt the correct protocol given the
amount you post here.


Think how empty your life would be if I didn't post interesting stuff
for you read!

Now gimme a bit of space, Plowie - I've got a nasty rash developing on
my ankles and I think it's you.....

You wouldn't *have* any ankles, Keithie baby, if I decided to bite.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
OK, I'm going to try this in a little while - I didn't see a petrol
forecourt yet without a 'No Smoking sign' on it! I *know* you can
extinguish a cigarette in diesel, but I can't say from first hand that a
cigarette would *definitely* set fire to a petrol-soaked rag!

Don't take an old car to a filling station. If you start one in darkness
and look you'll see sparks from the starter motor commutator and also from
the dynamo if it's on full charge. So for safety it should be pushed well
clear of the pumps before starting.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Eiron" wrote


A cigarette end can destroy a dry rag or paper. I couldn't get any
flames
but there was plenty of smoke and a red glow. So the problem in the
hypothetical depot is that someone let the rags dry out. :-)


OK, I'm going to try this in a little while - I didn't see a petrol
forecourt yet without a 'No Smoking sign' on it! I *know* you can
extinguish a cigarette in diesel, but I can't say from first hand
that a cigarette would *definitely* set fire to a petrol-soaked rag!

Maybe a little movie?

We'll see - could be fun...!!

:-)


Actually, it was a bit of a non-event and the ciggie *didn't* set the
rag on fire!! I did - with a lighter at the end of this clip which I
buggered up fishing for the lighter while I was squatting down!

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Experiment.wmv


(Not small at 12 Meg!!)



OK, the trouble with a bit of *pyro* is it gets interesting! :-)

Here's me lobbing a ciggie straight into petrol:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show..._In_Petrol.wmv

Here's me trying to get the petrol going with a burning rag (bit
wobbly - not easy when you're trying to film it at the same time):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Burning_Rag.wmv

Here's the 'Big Finish':

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Big_Finish.wmv

(Sodding 'unleaded' - no wonder it's a struggle to get a bit of speed up
at times!! ;-)

5.4.3.2.1....

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:

[snip]

I'd have thought you'd have learnt the correct protocol given the
amount you post here.


Think how empty your life would be if I didn't post interesting stuff
for you read!

Now gimme a bit of space, Plowie - I've got a nasty rash developing
on
my ankles and I think it's you.....

You wouldn't *have* any ankles, Keithie baby, if I decided to bite.


Ay oop - Plowie's doing *brusque*...!

:-)



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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:16 +0000, Keith G wrote:

No I'm not - that shop is no worse than some of the other St Neots shops
I've had dealings with. They've had a captive (Fenland) market for a
century and they have grown fat exploiting the ignorance/transportation
difficulties of their clientele.

Every area has it's good and bad points. I'm sure the quality of life is
nice and tranquil in the Fens. Unfortunately, there's a price to pay for
living away from civilisation.

Pay up or move, I say.

In article , Silk
scribeth thus
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:16 +0000, Keith G wrote:

No I'm not - that shop is no worse than some of the other St Neots shops
I've had dealings with. They've had a captive (Fenland) market for a
century and they have grown fat exploiting the ignorance/transportation
difficulties of their clientele.

Every area has it's good and bad points. I'm sure the quality of life is
nice and tranquil in the Fens. Unfortunately, there's a price to pay for
living away from civilisation.

Pay up or move, I say.

St Neots isn't in the Fens!.

Suggest you get a map M8!......
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Tony Sayer

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:08:55 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Silk
scribeth thus
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:16 +0000, Keith G wrote:

No I'm not - that shop is no worse than some of the other St Neots shops
I've had dealings with. They've had a captive (Fenland) market for a
century and they have grown fat exploiting the ignorance/transportation
difficulties of their clientele.

Every area has it's good and bad points. I'm sure the quality of life is
nice and tranquil in the Fens. Unfortunately, there's a price to pay for
living away from civilisation.

Pay up or move, I say.

St Neots isn't in the Fens!.

Suggest you get a map M8!......

M8? That's in Scotland. This is getting confusing.

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:08:55 +0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Silk
scribeth thus
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:16 +0000, Keith G wrote:

No I'm not - that shop is no worse than some of the other St Neots
shops I've had dealings with. They've had a captive (Fenland) market
for a century and they have grown fat exploiting the
ignorance/transportation difficulties of their clientele.

Every area has it's good and bad points. I'm sure the quality of life is
nice and tranquil in the Fens. Unfortunately, there's a price to pay for
living away from civilisation.

Pay up or move, I say.

St Neots isn't in the Fens!.

Suggest you get a map M8!......

It's near as damn it, old chap; same part of the world. My argument still
stands. If you live away from civilisation, you can't expect the same
advantages.

"Silk" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:08:55 +0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Silk
scribeth thus
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:16 +0000, Keith G wrote:

No I'm not - that shop is no worse than some of the other St Neots
shops I've had dealings with. They've had a captive (Fenland)
market
for a century and they have grown fat exploiting the
ignorance/transportation difficulties of their clientele.

Every area has it's good and bad points. I'm sure the quality of life
is
nice and tranquil in the Fens. Unfortunately, there's a price to pay
for
living away from civilisation.

Pay up or move, I say.

St Neots isn't in the Fens!.

Suggest you get a map M8!......

It's near as damn it, old chap; same part of the world. My argument
still
stands. If you live away from civilisation, you can't expect the same
advantages.


I still think you are Keira, but I'll address the point you are making -
you are suggesting the sales guy asks the customer if he is from 'out of
town' and hits him with a surcharge if the answer's 'yes' then?