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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:42 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Many are fifty years old and gigging six nights a week.
(The amps, I mean, not the guitar players:-)

No, I think you will find it is both...


One of the many fun things about sharing a workshop with
two young repair techs, is that I get to meet their clients. Three
times in the past couple of weeks I have had coffee with lads
whose fathers were studio musicians when I was
making pop records.

I am pretty sure that guitars and the amps are passed
on, father to son.

Iain

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote

We have very little landfill material. Recycling places can be found in
all areas. There are huge skips marked "metal, plastic, wood, TVs,
computers etc etc. In fact the landfill material had decresed so much
by the recycling of all paper, glass, timber, cardboard, milk cartons
etc,
and the composting of perishable food scraps etc, that most households
only require rubbish collection once every other week.


I have just put our 'rubbish wheelie' out and, as usual, it's no more than
half full - that's a fornight's worth.

Anyway, Iain - never mind the rubbish/reclaim - I've been hearing on the
telly lately that we in the UK throw out *30%* of all food bought in this
country! (!!!)

That's a sobering thought:-(

I can't even begin to believe this - we throw virtually *nothing* out
here. Kitchen waste (peelings, stalks &c.) goes on the compost and the odd
bit of fat from a chop (or other similar inedible) goes out on the back
lawn and is never there in the morning!

Fox? Hedgehog? or hungry neighbours?

(If that 30% figure is anything like right, there will be a *Biblical*
retribution one day soon, I'm sure - of *Old Testament* proportions!!)

Scandinavians are always surprised when they visit London to see
Bentleys and Rolls Royces by the dozen, driving past shop doorways
that have homeless people living in them in cardboard boxes.

When I lived in London, a local shop used to put
bread that had passed its sell-by date in boxes in the street at the
back of the shop, so that people in need could help themselves.
The health authorities served them with an injunction.

In the case of guitar amps, vintage is still held in high esteem. So old
Marshalls, Engl, and expcially Hi Watts are looked after with lots of
TLC. They are built in such a way that they can be repaired and serviced.


Quite and so much flyaway/throwaway stuff these days isn't!!

It's called built in obsolescence (I know many a guitar
player who fits the category:-)

Iain

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In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:
Scandinavians are always surprised when they visit London to see
Bentleys and Rolls Royces by the dozen, driving past shop doorways
that have homeless people living in them in cardboard boxes.

Yes - those down an out Scandinavians have to have somewhere to go.

When I lived in London, a local shop used to put
bread that had passed its sell-by date in boxes in the street at the
back of the shop, so that people in need could help themselves.
The health authorities served them with an injunction.

And rightly so. Unless proper and time consuming precautions are taken
this encourages vermin. The shop was probably trying it on to get rid of
its rubbish for free.

--
*A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Keith G" wrote


Anyway, Iain - never mind the rubbish/reclaim - I've been hearing on
the
telly lately that we in the UK throw out *30%* of all food bought in
this
country! (!!!)

That's a sobering thought:-(


If it's true, it's a lot more serious than merely 'sobering' - that sort
of behavious simply doesn't go unpunished....



I can't even begin to believe this - we throw virtually *nothing* out
here. Kitchen waste (peelings, stalks &c.) goes on the compost and
the odd
bit of fat from a chop (or other similar inedible) goes out on the
back
lawn and is never there in the morning!

Fox? Hedgehog? or hungry neighbours?


All of the above, but we do get Hoggits on a nightly basis - the record
number being 5 at the same time! :-)

(We put 'Spikes' out for them! http://www.spikesite.co.uk/)



(If that 30% figure is anything like right, there will be a
*Biblical*
retribution one day soon, I'm sure - of *Old Testament*
proportions!!)

Scandinavians are always surprised when they visit London to see
Bentleys and Rolls Royces by the dozen, driving past shop doorways
that have homeless people living in them in cardboard boxes.


Proof positive that Experiment 5096/54B (Humans on the planet Earth)
hasn't been entirely successful....



When I lived in London, a local shop used to put
bread that had passed its sell-by date in boxes in the street at the
back of the shop, so that people in need could help themselves.
The health authorities served them with an injunction.


I can see that might be a problem - it would depend very much on how
exactly it was done....

Robber Baron Redux: Location, Location, Location....
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Keith G" wrote


Anyway, Iain - never mind the rubbish/reclaim - I've been hearing on the
telly lately that we in the UK throw out *30%* of all food bought in
this
country! (!!!)

That's a sobering thought:-(


If it's true, it's a lot more serious than merely 'sobering' - that sort
of behavious simply doesn't go unpunished....



I can't even begin to believe this - we throw virtually *nothing* out
here. Kitchen waste (peelings, stalks &c.) goes on the compost and the
odd
bit of fat from a chop (or other similar inedible) goes out on the back
lawn and is never there in the morning!

Fox? Hedgehog? or hungry neighbours?


All of the above, but we do get Hoggits on a nightly basis - the record
number being 5 at the same time! :-)

(We put 'Spikes' out for them! http://www.spikesite.co.uk/)



(If that 30% figure is anything like right, there will be a *Biblical*
retribution one day soon, I'm sure - of *Old Testament* proportions!!)

Scandinavians are always surprised when they visit London to see
Bentleys and Rolls Royces by the dozen, driving past shop doorways
that have homeless people living in them in cardboard boxes.


Proof positive that Experiment 5096/54B (Humans on the planet Earth)
hasn't been entirely successful....



When I lived in London, a local shop used to put
bread that had passed its sell-by date in boxes in the street at the
back of the shop, so that people in need could help themselves.
The health authorities served them with an injunction.


I can see that might be a problem - it would depend very much on how
exactly it was done....

Indeed. The shop closed at 2000 hrs. The bread which would have been
a little too stale to sell the next morning, was put outside, in a separate
box by the back door, at about 2100 hrs. The dustmen would have collected
it the next morning. But I can see that in the event of illness, the shop
keeper or even the baker might be held responsible. It just seems a
terrible waste:-(

Iain

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"Iain Churches" wrote


Indeed. The shop closed at 2000 hrs. The bread which would have been
a little too stale to sell the next morning, was put outside, in a
separate
box by the back door, at about 2100 hrs. The dustmen would have
collected
it the next morning. But I can see that in the event of illness, the
shop
keeper or even the baker might be held responsible. It just seems a
terrible waste:-(


It is. Any waste is regrettable but to waste food when many others don't
have enough is somehow a terrible thing in my book.

Have you ever noticed that, in US movies, *nobody* ever finishes a plate
of food/drink/cigarette? What sort of message does that send to the
Third World when the movies get to them (which they do) - no wonder the
Yanks are becoming the No. 1 target (next to us) for the world's
hatred!!

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"Keith G" wrote in message


Have you ever noticed that, in US movies, *nobody* ever
finishes a plate of food/drink/cigarette? What sort of
message does that send to the Third World when the movies
get to them (which they do).

I take this as a sign that film and actor time costs more than food, so they
don't waste it with boring shots of people finishing their meals. ;-)

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


Have you ever noticed that, in US movies, *nobody* ever
finishes a plate of food/drink/cigarette? What sort of
message does that send to the Third World when the movies
get to them (which they do).

I take this as a sign that film and actor time costs more than food, so
they don't waste it with boring shots of people finishing their meals. ;-)

I read Keith's statement to mean that there is food left on the plate
when the diners have finished.


I used to correspond with the British pianist Victor Feldman, who lived
in New York. He told me there were many restaurants where, if you
could eat the entire steak, it was on the house. Even a band of hungry
jazz musicians never managed a free meal.

Iain

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


Have you ever noticed that, in US movies, *nobody* ever
finishes a plate of food/drink/cigarette? What sort of
message does that send to the Third World when the movies
get to them (which they do).

I take this as a sign that film and actor time costs more than food,
so
they don't waste it with boring shots of people finishing their
meals. ;-)

I read Keith's statement to mean that there is food left on the plate
when the diners have finished.


Yes - always!




I used to correspond with the British pianist Victor Feldman, who
lived
in New York. He told me there were many restaurants where, if you
could eat the entire steak, it was on the house. Even a band of
hungry
jazz musicians never managed a free meal.


Well, there's a few in Detroit that'll be clearing their plates a little
more enthusiastically these days - according to this evening's BBC
news....

Robber Baron Redux: Location, Location, Location....
 

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Have you ever noticed that, in US movies, *nobody* ever finishes a plate
of food/drink/cigarette? What sort of message does that send to the
Third World when the movies get to them (which they do) - no wonder the
Yanks are becoming the No. 1 target (next to us) for the world's
hatred!!

In some societies it's regarded as an insult to finish all the food on
your plate - it's implying you haven't had enough.

--
*I get enough exercise just pushing my luck.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.