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Old November 12th 07, 02:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Having just posted (at length) about buying a PVR to use with a 'spare'
300 GB HDD in an external USB box that I have here, I have *walked
through* its sodding power lead and sent it flying! Now it (the HDD
itself) goes like this when I switch it on:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Hard%20Disk.mp3

...and the computer doesn't see it.

It *is* fuct isn't it....??

(Never heard an HDD make a noise before!!)

Any clues, before I start pounding it against a wall to *reactivate*
it..??








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Old November 12th 07, 03:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Having just posted (at length) about buying a PVR to use with a
'spare' 300 GB HDD in an external USB box that I have here, I have
*walked through* its sodding power lead and sent it flying! Now it
(the HDD itself) goes like this when I switch it on:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Hard%20Disk.mp3

..and the computer doesn't see it.

It *is* fuct isn't it....??

(Never heard an HDD make a noise before!!)

Any clues, before I start pounding it against a wall to *reactivate*
it..??



Hah! Seems, I'm not the only one (same drive):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv7PCalQSxI


Following the YouTube links through the various 'HDD speaker' clips, I
soon ended up he

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4jXhZgAPp4


(Don's got one of these *built in*...!! :-)




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Old November 12th 07, 03:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Keith G" wrote


Following the YouTube links through the various 'HDD speaker' clips, I
soon ended up he

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4jXhZgAPp4


(Don's got one of these *built in*...!! :-)



And on to this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDWYpq61aec


One for the QUAD Squad?

:-)


Enough now...





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Old November 12th 07, 04:01 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Adrian C
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Keith G wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
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Having just posted (at length) about buying a PVR to use with a
'spare' 300 GB HDD in an external USB box that I have here, I have
*walked through* its sodding power lead and sent it flying! Now it
(the HDD itself) goes like this when I switch it on:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Hard%20Disk.mp3


Just as well you killed it ;-)

The use of consumer hard drives in PVR and other media equipment (e.g.
iPod Classic) is probably the most "mission critical" use these items
get. In a PC, their dependancy on service is less, as the user should
have (if used) built in features to avoid data loss. How do PVRs recover
TV programmes from failed hard drives. Answer: They don't.

A Maxtor hard drive is _not_ the best choice for a PVR. You have been
saved grief Keith, by an unseen hand ;-)

Find yourself a Samsung drive. Nice and quiet, and my TiVo has had
Samsumgs running 24/7 for years.

250GB HA250JC
300GB HD300LD
400GB HD400LD

Or Seagate / Hitachi.

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Old November 12th 07, 04:37 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
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Having just posted (at length) about buying a PVR to use with a
'spare' 300 GB HDD in an external USB box that I have here, I have
*walked through* its sodding power lead and sent it flying! Now it
(the HDD itself) goes like this when I switch it on:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Hard%20Disk.mp3


Just as well you killed it ;-)

The use of consumer hard drives in PVR and other media equipment (e.g.
iPod Classic) is probably the most "mission critical" use these items
get. In a PC, their dependancy on service is less, as the user should
have (if used) built in features to avoid data loss. How do PVRs
recover TV programmes from failed hard drives. Answer: They don't.

A Maxtor hard drive is _not_ the best choice for a PVR. You have been
saved grief Keith, by an unseen hand ;-)



'See Good In Bad', eh..?? I'll take that, Adrian - a little *positivity*
goes a long way in my book! :-)

(It knocked the shine off my day, I can tell you - no spare HDD and I
wouldn't have waved a braincell at the PVR!!)



Find yourself a Samsung drive. Nice and quiet, and my TiVo has had
Samsumgs running 24/7 for years.

250GB HA250JC
300GB HD300LD
400GB HD400LD

Or Seagate / Hitachi.



Hmm, the only other HDD I've had go tits-up (on its own) in the past was
a 'Deskstar' when they were branded IBM - Seagate have always been good
but a *quiet* Samsung sounds tempting. (Swim can bloody pay for it...)



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Old November 12th 07, 05:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Keith G" wrote in message


Having just posted (at length) about buying a PVR to use
with a 'spare' 300 GB HDD in an external USB box that I
have here, I have *walked through* its sodding power lead
and sent it flying! Now it (the HDD itself) goes like
this when I switch it on:
http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Hard%20Disk.mp3

..and the computer doesn't see it.

It *is* fuct isn't it....??


Good call.

(Never heard an HDD make a noise before!!)


For all the world, it sounds like it has a speaker.

Any clues, before I start pounding it against a wall to
*reactivate* it..??


I'd try pounding it on the sidewalk outside. You might damage your house's
wall or floor.


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Old November 12th 07, 05:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Adrian C" wrote in message

Keith G wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
...
Having just posted (at length) about buying a PVR to
use with a 'spare' 300 GB HDD in an external USB box
that I have here, I have *walked through* its sodding
power lead and sent it flying! Now it (the HDD itself)
goes like this when I switch it on:
http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Hard%20Disk.mp3


Just as well you killed it ;-)

The use of consumer hard drives in PVR and other media
equipment (e.g. iPod Classic) is probably the most
"mission critical" use these items get.


Interesting phrase - consumer hard drive.

In a PC, their
dependancy on service is less, as the user should have
(if used) built in features to avoid data loss.


True of any hard drive in any application where the data is other than
transient.

How do PVRs recover TV programmes from failed hard drives.
Answer: They don't.


Neither do PCs. The whole idea is to back critical data *before* the drive
fails.

A Maxtor hard drive is _not_ the best choice for a PVR.


Why not?

You have been saved grief Keith, by an unseen hand ;-)


Moral of the story - never fail to backup important data that lives on a
hard drive.

Find yourself a Samsung drive. Nice and quiet, and my
TiVo has had Samsumgs running 24/7 for years.


IME Samsungs fail about as well as anything.

400GB HD400LD


Or Seagate / Hitachi.


So why the grudge against Maxtor?


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Old November 13th 07, 08:26 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Signal" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote:

Hmm, the only other HDD I've had go tits-up (on its own) in the past
was
a 'Deskstar' when they were branded IBM


75GXP or same series??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_Deskstar



Absolutely no idea now, but I didn't know they'd made it into the
Wikipeedier!

I am now in receipt of a 40 and an 80 Gig drive from my son that have
both been sidelined as 'suspect' (both Seagate) which might be a good
way to go if I'm going to have to pull the drives to get recordings off
them - 'one on and one in the wash' as it were! We'll see....


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Old November 13th 07, 03:37 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rob
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Signal wrote:
"Keith G" wrote:

"Signal" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote:

Hmm, the only other HDD I've had go tits-up (on its own) in the past
was
a 'Deskstar' when they were branded IBM
75GXP or same series??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_Deskstar


Absolutely no idea now, but I didn't know they'd made it into the
Wikipeedier!

I am now in receipt of a 40 and an 80 Gig drive from my son that have
both been sidelined as 'suspect' (both Seagate) which might be a good
way to go if I'm going to have to pull the drives to get recordings off
them - 'one on and one in the wash' as it were! We'll see....


Good luck with that. If you do find you need a new drive, I can
recommend the Seagate Barracuda drives with the fluid bearing.. they
are very quiet indeed.


I've got a 320GB Barracuda with the fluid bearing - pretty noisy (and
hot). I read up on it a while ago - something to do with their country
of manufacture. The 500GB Samsung I bought recently is very quiet - but
not as quiet as all the iMac-installed HDs I've come across. Whatever
the make (usually WD) they're just about silent.
 




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