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Old October 24th 03, 03:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tom
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TT wrote:
:: "Tom" wrote in message
:: ...
::: Greetings friends.
:::
::: Anyone know how to add vinyl crackle in CEP2 or Adobe Aud 1.0, or
::: indeed if there is a good sound effect of it which i can just
::: overlay in multi track?? Have often wanted to use this in my stuff
::: but don't know how! Short of sampling long periods of inactivity in
::: vinyl, i'd like an easier, preferably customiseable way of doing it!
:::
::: Regards people.
:::
::: T.
:::
:: I have to ask "WHY?" The whole world's hi-fi community has spent
:: 100 years+ trying to remove it and you want to put it back on.
::
:: Regards TT

That's an absurd comment. Have you been under a rock recently?? MANY new
songs use this technique, it's just like adding "noise" to pictures or
indeed shooting a film in black and white.


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Old October 24th 03, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tom
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Laurence Payne wrote:
:: On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:18:14 +0800, "TT" wrote:
::
::: I have to ask "WHY?" The whole world's hi-fi community has spent
::: 100 years+ trying to remove it and you want to put it back on.
::
:: Because music is about emotional response, not just technical
:: perfection. If the job is to back up a video of "Grandmama's days",
:: a crackly Victrola does the job. (OK, Great-grandmama's days now :-)
::
:: I've got a favourite recording of Clinton Ford with the George
:: Chisholm band which starts with an announcement "..recorded on
:: Parlophone records.." with a crackle background. Clinton (who
:: stays with me sometimes) tells how he crumpled a sheet of Cellophane
:: during the announcement. Also, he recounts how the mono and stereo
:: releases would be recorded separately. On a jazz record you often
:: got quite different performances. If one session was before lunch,
:: one after, you might get VERY different performances ;-)
::
:: "Grungeliser" VST plugin, as supplied with Cubase, may do the job.

Can't find that plugn anywhere :-( looks like i'll try and record some
scatchy from a vinyl


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Old October 24th 03, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tom
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Laurence Payne wrote:
:: On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:18:14 +0800, "TT" wrote:
::
::: I have to ask "WHY?" The whole world's hi-fi community has spent
::: 100 years+ trying to remove it and you want to put it back on.
::
:: Because music is about emotional response, not just technical
:: perfection. If the job is to back up a video of "Grandmama's days",
:: a crackly Victrola does the job. (OK, Great-grandmama's days now :-)
::
:: I've got a favourite recording of Clinton Ford with the George
:: Chisholm band which starts with an announcement "..recorded on
:: Parlophone records.." with a crackle background. Clinton (who
:: stays with me sometimes) tells how he crumpled a sheet of Cellophane
:: during the announcement. Also, he recounts how the mono and stereo
:: releases would be recorded separately. On a jazz record you often
:: got quite different performances. If one session was before lunch,
:: one after, you might get VERY different performances ;-)
::
:: "Grungeliser" VST plugin, as supplied with Cubase, may do the job.

Can't find that plugn anywhere :-( looks like i'll try and record some
scatchy from a vinyl


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Old October 24th 03, 04:32 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:40:11 +0100, "Tom" wrote:

:: "Grungeliser" VST plugin, as supplied with Cubase, may do the job.

Can't find that plugn anywhere :-( looks like i'll try and record some
scatchy from a vinyl


Have you GOT Cubase? It's included. Should be in your plugins list.
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Old October 24th 03, 04:32 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:40:11 +0100, "Tom" wrote:

:: "Grungeliser" VST plugin, as supplied with Cubase, may do the job.

Can't find that plugn anywhere :-( looks like i'll try and record some
scatchy from a vinyl


Have you GOT Cubase? It's included. Should be in your plugins list.
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Old October 24th 03, 05:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim H
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Default Adding Crackle!

more from the 'Tom school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

Greetings friends.

Anyone know how to add vinyl crackle in CEP2 or Adobe Aud 1.0, or
indeed if there is a good sound effect of it which i can just overlay
in multi track?? Have often wanted to use this in my stuff but don't
know how! Short of sampling long periods of inactivity in vinyl, i'd
like an easier, preferably customiseable way of doing it!

Regards people.

T.



Going OT here, but I wonder - if the crackle simulation was real enough and
the work was pressed to LP, what would it look like - an actual scratch?

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Old October 24th 03, 05:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim H
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Default Adding Crackle!

more from the 'Tom school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

Greetings friends.

Anyone know how to add vinyl crackle in CEP2 or Adobe Aud 1.0, or
indeed if there is a good sound effect of it which i can just overlay
in multi track?? Have often wanted to use this in my stuff but don't
know how! Short of sampling long periods of inactivity in vinyl, i'd
like an easier, preferably customiseable way of doing it!

Regards people.

T.



Going OT here, but I wonder - if the crackle simulation was real enough and
the work was pressed to LP, what would it look like - an actual scratch?

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org
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Old October 24th 03, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default Adding Crackle!

In article ,
Tom wrote:
Anyone know how to add vinyl crackle in CEP2 or Adobe Aud 1.0, or indeed
if there is a good sound effect of it which i can just overlay in multi
track?? Have often wanted to use this in my stuff but don't know how!
Short of sampling long periods of inactivity in vinyl, i'd like an
easier, preferably customiseable way of doing it!


Most of the pro sound FX libraries have a surface noise track. I'm not
sure if any free to download ones do, but it might be worth a search.

FWIW, to get an authentic vinyl or shellac sound you need also to
introduce 2nd harmonic distortion as well as eq if it's meant to be old.

--
*Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
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Old October 24th 03, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default Adding Crackle!

In article ,
Tom wrote:
Anyone know how to add vinyl crackle in CEP2 or Adobe Aud 1.0, or indeed
if there is a good sound effect of it which i can just overlay in multi
track?? Have often wanted to use this in my stuff but don't know how!
Short of sampling long periods of inactivity in vinyl, i'd like an
easier, preferably customiseable way of doing it!


Most of the pro sound FX libraries have a surface noise track. I'm not
sure if any free to download ones do, but it might be worth a search.

FWIW, to get an authentic vinyl or shellac sound you need also to
introduce 2nd harmonic distortion as well as eq if it's meant to be old.

--
*Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old October 24th 03, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tom
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Default Adding Crackle!

Laurence Payne wrote:
:: On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:40:11 +0100, "Tom" wrote:
::
::::: "Grungeliser" VST plugin, as supplied with Cubase, may do the job.
:::
::: Can't find that plugn anywhere :-( looks like i'll try and record
::: some scatchy from a vinyl
::
:: Have you GOT Cubase? It's included. Should be in your plugins list.

will try and get hold of a demo or something... thanks :-)


 




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